BREAKING: “ VINCENT TAN / 4 WEEKS “

Think current world financial situation might take some relevance .

What’s “breaking” about this thread? Pure click bait, yet another terrible / misleading title designed purely for hits. I’m done.

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Let’s do something about tan then.

Id imagine the current pandemic has delayed that.

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Let’s do something about tan then.

And then what !!??

Winding up, fire sale of players, Div 1or 2 ?

Get real !!

https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=219648
Let’s do something about tan then.

And then what !!??

Winding up, fire sale of players, Div 1or 2 ?

Get real !!

Like when the junior Bluebirds took over the club

4 Weeks .....

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

Warnock aside?

Warnock brought in nearly £200 mill through promotion

Yes but he wasted it on crap players and bonus’s and Premier League wages for him and his staff and players!

He spent £50mill quarter of what he brought in and all sanctioned by the famous Committee a fact.

With 2 promotions comes two seasons of premier league wages. It's not as if he brought in £200 million and only spent £50 million leaving a profit of £150 million. It doesn't quite work like that.

The anti Tan bus is doing a proper tour this weekend isnt it?

Not many passengers but plenty of baggage.

Whatever the 5 year plan was, I'm sure it didn't account for a global pandemic or the unfortunate loss of a player that may have changed our fortunes.

Debt free or not, the debt is definitely reducing every year so i as one supporter am happy with that.

Agree with this, I wouldn't expect it during a Pandemic no way could tan have foreseen that and the clubs income greatly reduced[

People have short and selective memory about what it was like before Tan gave us the stability that we have since enjoyed. Some appear to think that we were better managed when we were having to sell everything that wasn't nailed down and were constantly facing living under the threat of winding up orders. Unbelievable.

Some great posts. Seems not everyone is anti tan.

Some great posts. Seems not everyone is anti tan.

That’s what this forum is all about , different opinions

All I have stated what Tan stated 5yrs ago

Think current world financial situation might take some relevance .

Way before the virus, Dalman stated there was no money .

The anti Tan bus is doing a proper tour this weekend isnt it?

Not many passengers but plenty of baggage.

Whatever the 5 year plan was, I'm sure it didn't account for a global pandemic or the unfortunate loss of a player that may have changed our fortunes.

Debt free or not, the debt is definitely reducing every year so i as one supporter am happy with that.

I’m definitely happy with Tan as well.
Constantly keeping this club going.

The constant whinging is beyond me.

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

All I will say is that everything is for sale and if the price is right..................

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

All I will say is that everything is for sale and if the price is right..................

But what is the price?

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

All I will say is that everything is for sale and if the price is right..................

You won't get any disagreement from me on that point.

However, I would say that the grass isn't always greener. There's a pretty long list of clubs that wanted a change at the top and it resulted in absolute carnage.

I want my club to be successful but, even more important, is that I want it to survive as a professional football club.

Our cousins down the road have gone quiet about their ownership and they were desperate for a change before these Americans investors took over. However those problems haven't gone away and if they don't go up this season they will be in a very difficult situation. But it's not only them who have suffered from such a change and that's something we all need to guard against.

The fact that we've had two promotions to the premier league in 7 years makes us one of the more successful teams outside of the Prem, we need to build on that not go backwards.

Warnock aside?

My thoughts also
Got us up yes got us relegated yes
Left us in the shit financialy yes
Let our academy rot for over 2 years yes
Thanks for the memories colin
And vincent tan is the best owner city has had in the last 50+owners

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

All I will say is that everything is for sale and if the price is right..................

But what is the price?

I was told by People involved in the negotiations it was £30mill plus the buyer takes all the debts and court cases

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

All I will say is that everything is for sale and if the price is right..................

But what is the price?

I was told by People involved in the negotiations it was £30mill plus the buyer takes all the debts and court cases

The debt adds a lot but I think that’s a decent price.

Moore is worth half of that or will be after the euros.

Was that when we were in the premier league or in the championship?

He's been a pretty reliable and stable owner for the most part, the rebrand was a disaster but it was reversed and at a huge cost to the man. I don't think he's going to take Cardiff anywhere as he seems to have lost the passion and interest he had in the early days, but that also means Cardiff aren't in any real danger of dropping out of the Championship any time soon.

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

All I will say is that everything is for sale and if the price is right..................

But what is the price?

I was told by People involved in the negotiations it was £30mill plus the buyer takes all the debts and court cases

The debt adds a lot but I think that’s a decent price.

Moore is worth half of that or will be after the euros.

Was that when we were in the premier league or in the championship?

That adds up to £110mill, plus Sala £20mill, plus Langston could be £5mill


Value of clubs have dropped drastically since Covid.

£135MILL, FOR A MIDDLE OF THE TABLE CHAMPIONSHIP SIDE??
Players not worth very much.

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

Well it wasn't reported in any British media outlet which would make it the most secretive bid ever !!

The other point is that even if there were other bids, and I wouldn't be that surprised if there were, we certainly don't know the level of those bids nor whether those people would have the best interests of the club at heart.

They might have just have chanced their arm, made a low bid in the hope that they themselves could then sell it on to another, less trustworthy/suitable bidder. I can think of one person previously involved in the club who has a track record in hiding behind the names of another organisation

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

Well it wasn't reported in any British media outlet which would make it the most secretive bid ever !!

The other point is that even if there were other bids, and I wouldn't be that surprised if there were, we certainly don't know the level of those bids nor whether those people would have the best interests of the club at heart.

They might have just have chanced their arm, made a low bid in the hope that they themselves could then sell it on to another, less trustworthy/suitable bidder. I can think of one person previously involved in the club who has a track record in hiding behind the names of another organisation

Cardiff’s current owners are the only ones who make low bids. Look at poor Crewe. Amateurs.

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

Well it wasn't reported in any British media outlet which would make it the most secretive bid ever !!

The other point is that even if there were other bids, and I wouldn't be that surprised if there were, we certainly don't know the level of those bids nor whether those people would have the best interests of the club at heart.

They might have just have chanced their arm, made a low bid in the hope that they themselves could then sell it on to another, less trustworthy/suitable bidder. I can think of one person previously involved in the club who has a track record in hiding behind the names of another organisation

Cardiff’s current owners are the only ones who make low bids. Look at poor Crewe. Amateurs.

So one minute you're concerned about the debt and the next you want us to pay whatever another club asks

Are you that naïve or stupid to think that transfers go through at the first bid. We've started low, let's see where it ends up.

If we want him enough we'll negotiate that, if Crewe are asking silly money then we'll walk away. Simples.

We are, though, in a strong position in that his contract is up in the summer so Crewe either take some sort of fee now or let him walk away for nothing in 4 months time, well worth a low bid in the first instance.

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

Well it wasn't reported in any British media outlet which would make it the most secretive bid ever !!

The other point is that even if there were other bids, and I wouldn't be that surprised if there were, we certainly don't know the level of those bids nor whether those people would have the best interests of the club at heart.

They might have just have chanced their arm, made a low bid in the hope that they themselves could then sell it on to another, less trustworthy/suitable bidder. I can think of one person previously involved in the club who has a track record in hiding behind the names of another organisation

Cardiff’s current owners are the only ones who make low bids. Look at poor Crewe. Amateurs.

So one minute you're concerned about the debt and the next you want us to pay whatever another club asks

Are you that naïve or stupid to think that transfers go through at the first bid. We've started low, let's see where it ends up.

If we want him enough we'll negotiate that, if Crewe are asking silly money then we'll walk away. Simples.

We are, though, in a strong position in that his contract is up in the summer so Crewe either take some sort of fee now or let him walk away for nothing in 4 months time, well worth a low bid in the first instance.

Mate, this guy is so obviously a troll I wouldn’t even bother!

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

Well it wasn't reported in any British media outlet which would make it the most secretive bid ever !!

The other point is that even if there were other bids, and I wouldn't be that surprised if there were, we certainly don't know the level of those bids nor whether those people would have the best interests of the club at heart.

They might have just have chanced their arm, made a low bid in the hope that they themselves could then sell it on to another, less trustworthy/suitable bidder. I can think of one person previously involved in the club who has a track record in hiding behind the names of another organisation

Cardiff’s current owners are the only ones who make low bids. Look at poor Crewe. Amateurs.

So one minute you're concerned about the debt and the next you want us to pay whatever another club asks

Are you that naïve or stupid to think that transfers go through at the first bid. We've started low, let's see where it ends up.

If we want him enough we'll negotiate that, if Crewe are asking silly money then we'll walk away. Simples.

We are, though, in a strong position in that his contract is up in the summer so Crewe either take some sort of fee now or let him walk away for nothing in 4 months time, well worth a low bid in the first instance.

The debt being extended to be used for purchasing players isn’t necessarily a bad thing. We need players.

Yep two major issues with the OP.

1. Not sure if you’ve noticed but there’s a global pandemic going on that has wrecked the global economy that nobody, other than the drugs companies !, has done well out of. So any economic plans from 5 years ago are, frankly, knackered !!

2. And probably more importantly, so what if Tan doesn’t deliver on what he promised what’s the alternative? Without Tan pumping millions in per month we get a transfer embargo or, worse, administration. The Tan haters need to get into their heads that there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !! What do you want ? Force Tan out and then what ?

These posts are tiresome and pointless. Tan made a massive mistake in changing our colours. We are now back in blue and our club is financially stable yet some would rather go back to the winding up/embargo days of Hammam and Ridsdale !! I must be thick because I just can’t see any logic in that argument.

Just a correction on your assertion that (quote) "there are no rich investors queuing up to buy us right now" to say that that is not the truth; at least one (and I'm aware of another) 'buyer' has come forward in recent times with the funds and backing to meet the current owner's demands but he (Vincent Tan) changed his mind for reasons best explained by him

But that's just speculation. We've all heard those rumours but there is nothing in the public domain, particularly about the level of funds and ongoing investment offered so I'll clarify; there are no CONFIRMED rich investors queuing up to buy us right now !!

There was some speculation that Sam was also trying to put together a consortium and, understandably, there is no way Tan will let that weasel back in.

I would also suggest there would be doubts over whether Sam would pass the fit and proper person test of the league after his actions at both Wimbledon and us. That's one of the reasons that Tan was so keen to have him identified as the person behind Langston in open court a few years ago.

You have mentioned a tenuous offer to buy but I would repeat that there is no queue of people wanting to take us over.

It’s not rumours, just because media Wales are not printing it , who get it wrong half the time anyway.

Tan/Dalman have been offered twice by two different consortiums.
One pulled out after studying our debts etc and the other Tan withdrew.

Well it wasn't reported in any British media outlet which would make it the most secretive bid ever !!

The other point is that even if there were other bids, and I wouldn't be that surprised if there were, we certainly don't know the level of those bids nor whether those people would have the best interests of the club at heart.

They might have just have chanced their arm, made a low bid in the hope that they themselves could then sell it on to another, less trustworthy/suitable bidder. I can think of one person previously involved in the club who has a track record in hiding behind the names of another organisation

Cardiff’s current owners are the only ones who make low bids. Look at poor Crewe. Amateurs.

So one minute you're concerned about the debt and the next you want us to pay whatever another club asks

Are you that naïve or stupid to think that transfers go through at the first bid. We've started low, let's see where it ends up.

If we want him enough we'll negotiate that, if Crewe are asking silly money then we'll walk away. Simples.

We are, though, in a strong position in that his contract is up in the summer so Crewe either take some sort of fee now or let him walk away for nothing in 4 months time, well worth a low bid in the first instance.

Mate, this guy is so obviously a troll I wouldn’t even bother!

Why because I hold a certain view like most on this forum.

The board used to have lots of people who were Tan lovers but more and more are seeing sense. It’s so much more an anti Tan board lately.