CCFCJosh75 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:I don't really pay any attention to what they say so have quickly looked it up.
In fairness, maybe you should pay more attention to both sides because if you are going to hold one side of the political aisle to a fairly extreme standard, then it is only fair to apply that on an equal basis and if you're not paying attention to one side that's not really possible.CCFCJosh75 wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but AOC said "we need rapid and real de escalation and we need it now. We cannot descend into the chaos of violence." I'm fine with that statement.
Harris said that it was "critically important" for the PROTESTS to continue. I'm not priti Patel so I do believe protests can happen.
I can't find waters saying anything about riots, the only thing that comes up is when she said to tell Congressmen that they aren't welcome in 2018 after the child detainment camps were revealed.
Kamala Harris reflecting on BLM protests/riots:
"They're not going to stop, they're not going to stop and everyone beware. This is a movement. They're not going to stop before election day in November and they're not going to stop after and everyone should take note of that on both levels. They're not going to let up and they should not."
https://www.air.tv/watch?v=0UyYUVWbQhiJzagCCtI6Jw
Maxine Waters advocating physical harassment of political adversaries:
"Let's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCDe7vdFfw
Ocasio Cortez on why political activism is all about making people uncomfortable:
The thing that critics of activists don’t get is that they tried playing the “polite language” policy game and all it did was make them easier to ignore. It wasn’t until they made folks uncomfortable that there was traction to do ANYTHING even if it wasn’t their full demands.
The whole point of protesting is to make ppl uncomfortable. Activists take that discomfort w/ the status quo & advocate for concrete policy changes. Popular support often starts small & grows. To folks who complain protest demands make others uncomfortable... that’s the point.
https://twitter.com/aoc/status/13341846 ... 80?lang=en
By your standards, not mine, any and each of these could be seen as a veiled threat and a call to incitement.
Certainly, each is an example of legitimising and thus normalising political violence. The problem is you (not you specifically talking in general) cannot support political violence on one side and then denounce it on the other without showing yourself up to be a partisan hypocrite with a complete lack of conviction in your beliefs.
To put put the context back in your own (slightly edited) words:
Imagine being in a crowd of passionate ANTIFA or BLM 'protestors' hearing that and a lot more (that was just some selections off the top of my head) standing outside the building where all the "fascists" were. Can you see why that might have riled them to burn down the homes of hardworking and completely innocent members of the local community whose only crime was to have achieved something and been in the wrong place at the wrong time?
Personally, I'll hold the same moral line for the Demns as I do for Trump and and would say that of course none of these is incitement, it is politicians doing what politicians do in use hyperbolic and bombastic rhetoric. There is a degree of common sense that should be applied and we all have our own agency and sense of responsibility to not burn, loot, murder and riot.
All I ask is others be equally consistent in their logic as well
Firstly, I don't think I'm on an extreme side of American politics. I just disagree that trump is a god like some on here. I'm also not bothered about the health secretary of Canada, the sports minister of France, or the home Secretary of Benin.
Secondly: this movement won't stop, tell people you're not welcome, or saying protesting should make people uncomfortable has nothing to do with violence let alone riots. They aren't even in the same ballpark as each other.
strangely enough i missed your posts on the sports minister of France , the home secretary of Benin and Canadas health minister who along with Trump your not really bothered about...