Re: DONALD TRUMP defies the ESTABLISHMENT again...
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:24 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:That does read like 'we had more possession and more shots so we deserve to win'. If only the hundreds of law suits he's started in courts packed with republicans could prove anything.
For the mail in voter fraud, didn't trump reject laws for tightening votes?
You're missing the point though Josh.
I'm not commenting on whether or not the vote was fraudulently stolen. This is why I avoided things that are unproven like the whole dominion stuff, overnight spikes in Georgia, dead voters, voters whose addresses were empty parking lots etc. That is an entirely different conversation and I left it to the side deliberately as to not confuse the matter.
What I am saying is that there were enough verifiable anomalies to warrant closer scrutiny especially given the introduction of mail-in voting which does of course open the possibility of widespread voter fraud.
As sitting President, Trump given the amount of these anomalies not only had a right but also it could be argued, a constitutional duty to challenge the election findings through the US legal system - which is what he did.
Taking this into account, the legitimate legal challenges he made cannot logically be used as evidence of inciting insurrection which is what the impeachment trial focused on.
The point I was responding to was when you suggested "perhaps the hundreds of times he called the election rigged and that people were stealing it might have played a part" [in encouraging the rioters that entered the capital building so, therefore, he is guilty of incitement]
The added bit in square brackets is my understanding of your inference so feel free to correct me if I am wrong on that.
If that is what you are suggesting though, then just step back away from the tribal nature of the discussion for a minute and think that through.
It is an insane leap of logic to suggest that the evidence for him inciting insurrection is the fact that he challenged the incredibly unusually results of an election through the legal system available to him.
That just doesn't add up in any way shape or form the moment it goes under the slightest bit of logical scrutiny.