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Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:32 am

Legal action by the family of footballer Emiliano Sala over the January 2019 plane crash names 13 defendants, including Cardiff City FC and FC Nantes


Over 2 years later and the family have received nothing of Cardiff City or FC Nantes.

If Cardiff lose the appeal with Nantes it could cost them another £5mill making it £20million.




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Daily Mirror

Wednesday 10th March 2021


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The heartbroken family of footballer Emiliano Sala have begun legal action over his death in an air crash.

The owners of the plane and Cardiff City FC are among 13 defendants named in a civil action lodged in London by his mother, sister and brother.

The plane carrying Argentinian Sala, 28, and pilot David Ibbotson plunged into the Channel on the night of January 21, 2019.

Sala had just signed for Cardiff City from French side Nantes.

The pre-inquest hearing is to be heard tomorrow in Bournemouth

Solicitor Daniel Machover said the case had been lodged at the High Court to protect the family’s right to sue after the inquest.

Mr Machover said: “The family know the inquest will provide the answers to the very many questions they have about what went wrong in January 2019 and why Emiliano’s life was cut short.”

Investigators found Ibbotson’s pilot’s licence had expired and he had received no night-flying training.

The plane allegedly had faulty brakes and no carbon monoxide detectors.


EMILIANO SALA’S FAMILY WANT ‘ANSWERS’ ON ANNIVERSARY OF DEATH

The first defendant in the family’s action is David Henderson, who allegedly arranged the flight from Nantes to Cardiff in the Piper Malibu plane.

He faces trial in Cardiff later this year accused of endangering the safety of an aircraft.

The company that allegedly owned the plane, Cool Flourish Ltd, and its majority shareholder Fay Keely, are also defendants, as is Southern Aircraft Consultancy Inc and Ltd, a Suffolk-based trustee firm used to register the plane in the US.

Father and son agents Willie and Mark McKay and their company, who were acting as brokers on behalf of FC Nantes, are also defendants.

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Sala's player agent was Meissa N'Diaye who is not a defendant.

The makers of the plane Piper Aircraft are also named, as are Eastern Air Executive, an air taxi firm, and Aerotech Aircraft Maintenance Ltd.

Cardiff City and FC Nantes are the final defendants.

Mr Sala’s body was recovered, but Mr Ibbotson, 59, of Crowle, Lincs, has never been found.
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Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:27 am

Whatever the rights or wrongs of what has gone on since the incident, Cardiff City did not arrange the flight and apparently offered him a scheduled flight from London., so can be in no way to blame for his death, this if just a fishing expedition by lawyers.

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:31 am

Was on the cards and it says a lot that (about the Sala family) they are attempting to sue both sides

Not withstanding their huge personal loss, I always sad when such things seeming descend in such scenarios over the old green stuff...! :sick:

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:05 am

Sven wrote:Was on the cards and it says a lot that (about the Sala family) they are attempting to sue both sides

Not withstanding their huge personal loss, I always sad when such things seeming descend in such scenarios over the old green stuff...! :sick:

Chris they are suing every man and his dog, I do understand their loss, but they have lodged the writ in the high court so as not to prevent them suing if the inquest does not find any party guilty of any wrong doing!

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:08 pm

Any idea what they are suing us for ?
We offered him transport - but were declined.
His agent arranged the flight , the official pilot decided to off load it to another pilot. The plane was not authorised to fly at night etc etc etc.

I am presuming that Sala had personal life assurance in place which would have paid out on his death regardless of the circumstances. Just like if I die - I have a standard life assurance policy that pays off my mortgage etc.

Shame it's come to this - will be interesting to see who they successfully manage to sue and whether that then has precedent in future court cases between the club and Nantes

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:10 pm

Whilst I have compete sympathy for his family,I feel they have acted in a very dubious manner regards this!! What about the trust fund the club has set up? What about the insurance the boy must have had? Seems they are always chasing financial avenues?

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:38 pm

This is not uncommon in Law, to be honest, and will probably have been recommended by the family solicitors.

The fact is that his family is entitled to a 100% recovery and in order to achieve that it is right that they have named all possible defendants. I would have done the same.

It does not, in any way, mean that CCFC will be found negligent.

Neither does it mean that CCFC will be liable for the families costs.

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:25 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:This is not uncommon in Law, to be honest, and will probably have been recommended by the family solicitors.

The fact is that his family is entitled to a 100% recovery and in order to achieve that it is right that they have named all possible defendants. I would have done the same.

It does not, in any way, mean that CCFC will be found negligent.

Neither does it mean that CCFC will be liable for the families costs.



Think also it's a time thing where it as to be lodged before a set time otherwise wont be able to sue anyone according to radio... hence everyone concerned with this are named presume action be dropped against anyone found not to be liable in due course.

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:47 pm

Sven wrote:Was on the cards and it says a lot that (about the Sala family) they are attempting to sue both sides

Not withstanding their huge personal loss, I always sad when such things seeming descend in such scenarios over the old green stuff...! :sick:



what would any of us do in these circumstances.... ?
if i gave you a lift in my car which results in you dying normally your next of kin would claim against my insurance... or me if i had none.... in this case its as clear as mud who they should be claiming from so they have had to cover all possibilities ?
i dont see how we will end up being the party sued though even if we lose at CAS..

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:13 pm

It was always about the money

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:37 pm

john52 wrote:It was always about the money




isnt that the same for anyone that dies in an accident ?
the difference here is normally who you claim off is far more straight forward...

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:24 pm

What's certain is all 15 mentioned in the writ cannot be guilty .. it's just a procedural thing by sounds of it.

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:40 pm

It is entirely a procedural thing.

I deal with Personal Injury Claims.

By way of an example today I had a case where a person hit my client in the rear. He was insured via Aviva but it appears there is some problem with his insurance (non disclosure) and Aviva might not cover him.

So I have issued proceedings against (1) Mr J (2) Aviva Insurance (3) Motor Insurance Bureau

It just covers all bases.

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:25 pm

At the end of the day Sala was a grown man who got in that plane on his own choice. Neither Cardiff City or Nantes made him get in that plane. Would my family of been able to sue my work place had I died travelling to my place of work ?
Sala regularly used that plane to travel back and forth and that was a mistake that cost him his life.
It was also Salas responsibility to ensure whoever was the pilot that he was qualified to fly the plane. It was a tragic accident but was it Nantes or Cardiff’s fault ? No Sala wasn’t a child ffs

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:28 am

Nuclearblue wrote:At the end of the day Sala was a grown man who got in that plane on his own choice. Neither Cardiff City or Nantes made him get in that plane. Would my family of been able to sue my work place had I died travelling to my place of work ?
Sala regularly used that plane to travel back and forth and that was a mistake that cost him his life.
It was also Salas responsibility to ensure whoever was the pilot that he was qualified to fly the plane. It was a tragic accident but was it Nantes or Cardiff’s fault ? No Sala wasn’t a child ffs



I agree with the 1st line nukes, and said as much before, but, when you board a plane say for a holiday, do you check the pilot has all the right permissions in place? Do you ask if the plane has had maintenance, and when? This is a lot different than just "travelling to work" when you say he used the plane regularly, wasn't it only once before? In my eyes the pilot holds a large portion of the blame, as it was his greed, that drove him to illegally fly at night, and with a paid for passenger.

Do all the city players check when they fly to boro etc? No, they rely on someone else to do that for them,same as sala imho.
It's not as if any of us rely on an agent to arrange our travel to work. :old: :bluebird:

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:49 am

bluesince62 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:At the end of the day Sala was a grown man who got in that plane on his own choice. Neither Cardiff City or Nantes made him get in that plane. Would my family of been able to sue my work place had I died travelling to my place of work ?
Sala regularly used that plane to travel back and forth and that was a mistake that cost him his life.
It was also Salas responsibility to ensure whoever was the pilot that he was qualified to fly the plane. It was a tragic accident but was it Nantes or Cardiff’s fault ? No Sala wasn’t a child ffs



I agree with the 1st line nukes, and said as much before, but, when you board a plane say for a holiday, do you check the pilot has all the right permissions in place? Do you ask if the plane has had maintenance, and when? This is a lot different than just "travelling to work" when you say he used the plane regularly, wasn't it only once before? In my eyes the pilot holds a large portion of the blame, as it was his greed, that drove him to illegally fly at night, and with a paid for passenger.

Do all the city players check when they fly to boro etc? No, they rely on someone else to do that for them,same as sala imho.
It's not as if any of us rely on an agent to arrange our travel to work. :old: :bluebird:

Pretty much how I see it; Sala got on that plane with a more than reasonable expectation that (a) the plane was airworthy, and (b) the pilot was suitably licensed and experienced

That there were seemingly some pretty nefarious actions (now subject to a Court of Law) going on in the background can surely only be down to the actual pilot of said plane (Ibbotson), the contracted pilot (Henderson), the player's 'it wasn't me, Guv' Agent (Willy McKay) and to some extent the operators of the airport used to facilitate the flight?

The currently anonymous plane owners simply rented out their asset to a man they knew to have the correct credentials (Henderson) in good faith and even FC Nantes could not reasonably foresee or be culpable for what happened on that night once the flight was subject to said seemingly nefarious actions

With the above in mind, surely the least culpable 'party' in this sad affair is Cardiff City FC, as they offered up a flight, which was declined by Sala and his Agent and had nothing to do with its subsequent replacement?

If our club (and maybe even FC Nantes) have anything to concern themselves over, it is over the transfer situation itself and not the flight that so tragically took Sala's life

We may eventually find out in Court what drove the actions of that night but I feel confident that both greed, incompetency and complacency played its part :cry:

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:41 am

I've said all along this is a complicated matter, none of us have a clue how it will end, it will drag on for years with everyone suing everyone, and eventually it will be settled in court.

It's about the money for everyone involved, always has been, always will be.

Re: Emiliano Sala family sue Cardiff City FC and Nantes

Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:28 am

Paul Keevil wrote:It is entirely a procedural thing.

I deal with Personal Injury Claims.

By way of an example today I had a case where a person hit my client in the rear. He was insured via Aviva but it appears there is some problem with his insurance (non disclosure) and Aviva might not cover him.

So I have issued proceedings against (1) Mr J (2) Aviva Insurance (3) Motor Insurance Bureau

It just covers all bases.


Paul, you’re not the guy that keeps phoning me and asking if I’ve been in a car accident that’s not my fault are you?