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Re: VAR WATCH!

Postby pembroke allan » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:49 pm

skidemin wrote:
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pembroke allan wrote:Oh dear! Vestergaard for Southampton makes a slight mistake recovers on edge pen area as vardy runs in he pokes ball back to goalie but catches vardy on ankle with follow through (sounds familiar) ref gives red card without reference to var "NUTS"


I'm going to disagree here.

He did get the ball, yes.

But when you see where his foot connects with Vardy, it's a dangerous challenge and would be classed as serious foul play.

He could have given Vardy a serious injury.

But it's a hard one to call and you can make a case for either side of the argument on this one.

VAR probably told him in his ear that they agreed the decision.



sent off for denying a goal scoring opportunity....not for dangerous play....



Player got the ball by a mile so it was not a foul and same thing said by the two studio pundits ...so how can you stop a goal scoring opportunity if no foul?
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Re: VAR WATCH!

Postby skidemin » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:00 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
skidemin wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Oh dear! Vestergaard for Southampton makes a slight mistake recovers on edge pen area as vardy runs in he pokes ball back to goalie but catches vardy on ankle with follow through (sounds familiar) ref gives red card without reference to var "NUTS"


I'm going to disagree here.

He did get the ball, yes.

But when you see where his foot connects with Vardy, it's a dangerous challenge and would be classed as serious foul play.

He could have given Vardy a serious injury.

But it's a hard one to call and you can make a case for either side of the argument on this one.

VAR probably told him in his ear that they agreed the decision.



sent off for denying a goal scoring opportunity....not for dangerous play....



Player got the ball by a mile so it was not a foul and same thing said by the two studio pundits ...so how can you stop a goal scoring opportunity if no foul?



you cant Allan.... and if the ref made a mistake it was clear enough for VAR to spot on replay... at least get him to have a look ? one minute they are asking refs to look at non fouls the nxt they ignore clear errors...VAR is random and was always going to be random......
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Re: VAR WATCH!

Postby pembroke allan » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:27 pm

skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
skidemin wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Oh dear! Vestergaard for Southampton makes a slight mistake recovers on edge pen area as vardy runs in he pokes ball back to goalie but catches vardy on ankle with follow through (sounds familiar) ref gives red card without reference to var "NUTS"


I'm going to disagree here.

He did get the ball, yes.

But when you see where his foot connects with Vardy, it's a dangerous challenge and would be classed as serious foul play.

He could have given Vardy a serious injury.

But it's a hard one to call and you can make a case for either side of the argument on this one.

VAR probably told him in his ear that they agreed the decision.



sent off for denying a goal scoring opportunity....not for dangerous play....



Player got the ball by a mile so it was not a foul and same thing said by the two studio pundits ...so how can you stop a goal scoring opportunity if no foul?



you cant Allan.... and if the ref made a mistake it was clear enough for VAR to spot on replay... at least get him to have a look ? one minute they are asking refs to look at non fouls the nxt they ignore clear errors...VAR is random and was always going to be random......



Apparently it was var that said it was a goalscoring opportunity so both wrong! and your right why didn't var tell him to look at it? if he did he probably would have seen it wasnt a goalscoring opportunity because he played ball well before
vardy got there ...so was very much like arsenal red card last week ! Var is just another persons interpretation of an incident do we actually need that?
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Re: VAR WATCH!

Postby skidemin » Sat May 01, 2021 10:49 am

pembroke allan wrote:
skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
skidemin wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Oh dear! Vestergaard for Southampton makes a slight mistake recovers on edge pen area as vardy runs in he pokes ball back to goalie but catches vardy on ankle with follow through (sounds familiar) ref gives red card without reference to var "NUTS"


I'm going to disagree here.

He did get the ball, yes.

But when you see where his foot connects with Vardy, it's a dangerous challenge and would be classed as serious foul play.

He could have given Vardy a serious injury.

But it's a hard one to call and you can make a case for either side of the argument on this one.

VAR probably told him in his ear that they agreed the decision.



sent off for denying a goal scoring opportunity....not for dangerous play....



Player got the ball by a mile so it was not a foul and same thing said by the two studio pundits ...so how can you stop a goal scoring opportunity if no foul?



you cant Allan.... and if the ref made a mistake it was clear enough for VAR to spot on replay... at least get him to have a look ? one minute they are asking refs to look at non fouls the nxt they ignore clear errors...VAR is random and was always going to be random......



Apparently it was var that said it was a goalscoring opportunity so both wrong! and your right why didn't var tell him to look at it? if he did he probably would have seen it wasnt a goalscoring opportunity because he played ball well before
vardy got there ...so was very much like arsenal red card last week ! Var is just another persons interpretation of an incident do we actually need that?



i dont think you need it....for as long as ive watched football youll watch the game then sometimes claim later to a friend that was offside or a pen and sometimes the friend wouldnt agree or vice versa.... both sets of fans have opposite views on the same incident ...if on tv often the pundits do not agree with key incidents they watched from different angles in slowmo.... on high profile ones ive even seen 2 different top refs asked to review a decision and and come to different conclusions to each other.. and recently with no crowds you can hear both benches screaming at the same time ? its not a black and white game .. imagine if there was VAR2... more refs reviewing the decisions VAR make ? would it make it clearer or just make the cawl thicker....needs to be ditched
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Re: VAR WATCH!

Postby Igovernor » Sat May 01, 2021 11:02 am

Nothing wrong with VAR except the rules need changing
(1) if a man is level with the last man he cannot be offside ( not a stupid toenail offside)
(2) A VAR red card decision should be viewed in real time
(3) The ref should view any VAR referee decision on the pitch side monitor
I expect there is more but I can't remember them all :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:
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Re: VAR WATCH!

Postby pembroke allan » Sat May 01, 2021 11:34 am

skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
skidemin wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Oh dear! Vestergaard for Southampton makes a slight mistake recovers on edge pen area as vardy runs in he pokes ball back to goalie but catches vardy on ankle with follow through (sounds familiar) ref gives red card without reference to var "NUTS"


I'm going to disagree here.

He did get the ball, yes.

But when you see where his foot connects with Vardy, it's a dangerous challenge and would be classed as serious foul play.

He could have given Vardy a serious injury.

But it's a hard one to call and you can make a case for either side of the argument on this one.

VAR probably told him in his ear that they agreed the decision.



sent off for denying a goal scoring opportunity....not for dangerous play....



Player got the ball by a mile so it was not a foul and same thing said by the two studio pundits ...so how can you stop a goal scoring opportunity if no foul?



you cant Allan.... and if the ref made a mistake it was clear enough for VAR to spot on replay... at least get him to have a look ? one minute they are asking refs to look at non fouls the nxt they ignore clear errors...VAR is random and was always going to be random......



Apparently it was var that said it was a goalscoring opportunity so both wrong! and your right why didn't var tell him to look at it? if he did he probably would have seen it wasnt a goalscoring opportunity because he played ball well before
vardy got there ...so was very much like arsenal red card last week ! Var is just another persons interpretation of an incident do we actually need that?



i dont think you need it....for as long as ive watched football youll watch the game then sometimes claim later to a friend that was offside or a pen and sometimes the friend wouldnt agree or vice versa.... both sets of fans have opposite views on the same incident ...if on tv often the pundits do not agree with key incidents they watched from different angles in slowmo.... on high profile ones ive even seen 2 different top refs asked to review a decision and and come to different conclusions to each other.. and recently with no crowds you can hear both benches screaming at the same time ? its not a black and white game .. imagine if there was VAR2... more refs reviewing the decisions VAR make ? would it make it clearer or just make the cawl thicker....needs to be ditched



Your right you do get a lot of conflicting opinions as to a decision? In case of last night only person thought it was red card thought it was for a nasty foul?
But good point made is why didn't mr moss an experienced ref at var tell rooky ref Jones to look at screen if he did jones would surely have changed mind ! Perhaps it's time to ditch var officials making decisions but have them to advise ref use pitchside monitor if thinks mistake is made like in past week... certainly something needs to be done to stop the ludicrous situation like arsenal and last night happening which undermines var totally.
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Re: VAR WATCH!

Postby pembroke allan » Sat May 01, 2021 11:46 am

Igovernor wrote:Nothing wrong with VAR except the rules need changing
(1) if a man is level with the last man he cannot be offside ( not a stupid toenail offside)
(2) A VAR red card decision should be viewed in real time
(3) The ref should view any VAR referee decision on the pitch side monitor
I expect there is more but I can't remember them all :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:



There are simple ways to change things to make var run better like offside..... use the foot as marker easier to see..... handball not lot wrong now they've tweaked rules.....straight red cards should always be reviewed by ref with monitor..... hardest one is penalties
To many are given because players deliberately put foot in way of defending player to make contact with foot even if got no chance to win ball that to me is cheating to gain advantage hence almost double the amount of penalties since var came in..... classic case is players standing their ground and ducking down to initiate a foul kane expert at it but var stopped giving fouls because it was deemed dangerous to opponent who were landing on head dont see it now... just need strong refereeing on pitch ans not let var make the decisions like it is now more than it should
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Postby pembroke allan » Sat May 01, 2021 10:33 pm

Quiet day today not heared var mentioned in any games I watched!
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Re: VAR WATCH!

Postby pembroke allan » Mon May 03, 2021 9:11 pm

Well that was a very quiet holiday weekend no silly var decisions but neither any need for it to get involved particularly.... until next weekend. :mrgreen:
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Postby pembroke allan » Tue May 04, 2021 7:11 pm

Now this is what var is for? Ball hits man c player on top shoulder Paris players scream penalty ref gives it but immediately overturns it on review... :thumbup:
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Re: VAR WATCH!

Postby worcester_ccfc » Tue May 04, 2021 8:39 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Now this is what var is for? Ball hits man c player on top shoulder Paris players scream penalty ref gives it but immediately overturns it on review... :thumbup:


No idea what the referee saw to give a penalty in the first place.

Bjorn Kuipers is one of the best and most experienced referees in Europe but that wasn't even close to being a penalty.
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Re: VAR WATCH!

Postby pembroke allan » Tue May 04, 2021 10:40 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Now this is what var is for? Ball hits man c player on top shoulder Paris players scream penalty ref gives it but immediately overturns it on review... :thumbup:


No idea what the referee saw to give a penalty in the first place.

Bjorn Kuipers is one of the best and most experienced referees in Europe but that wasn't even close to being a penalty.



Think it was the mass appeal of Bayern players that made him think it was a pen probably didn't have view of it.. but took 1 second on review to put it right var as had few good days wonder how long it will last? :laughing6:
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