Sat May 15, 2021 11:58 pm
Sun May 16, 2021 12:28 am
actionman wrote:IN March 2013 we played this club in a championship match,since then in the eight years since they have won the Premier League ,FA Cup and played in the Champions League. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THAT WE CANT DO ???.
Sun May 16, 2021 12:52 am
Sun May 16, 2021 5:34 am
Sun May 16, 2021 8:28 am
pembroke allan wrote:actionman wrote:IN March 2013 we played this club in a championship match,since then in the eight years since they have won the Premier League ,FA Cup and played in the Champions League. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THAT WE CANT DO ???.
Came close to relegation sacked the manager for saving them brought in a foreign experienced manager in ranieri and with same team won premier league all because had owners who believed in a project they had using their billions ? This season opened a £100m training facility as part of long term strategy! So guess answer is have billions £££ and a workable plan something we have not had either manager wise or player wise... they have long term success plan while we've looked at instant success theres lies difference in clubs
Sun May 16, 2021 9:05 am
Sun May 16, 2021 9:08 am
Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:actionman wrote:IN March 2013 we played this club in a championship match,since then in the eight years since they have won the Premier League ,FA Cup and played in the Champions League. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THAT WE CANT DO ???.
Came close to relegation sacked the manager for saving them brought in a foreign experienced manager in ranieri and with same team won premier league all because had owners who believed in a project they had using their billions ? This season opened a £100m training facility as part of long term strategy! So guess answer is have billions £££ and a workable plan something we have not had either manager wise or player wise... they have long term success plan while we've looked at instant success theres lies difference in clubs
in one word......owner.
Sun May 16, 2021 9:55 am
Sun May 16, 2021 1:46 pm
Sun May 16, 2021 1:57 pm
JJ1927 wrote:Lets not forget the club went into administration and shafted their creditors. Like Southampton this enabled them to start afresh. Whilst the new owners have done brilliantly, they started with a clean slate and debt free. I am no fan of Tan but this is not what happened to us. We were already 50 million in the red when Tan took over.
Sun May 16, 2021 2:21 pm
pembroke allan wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Lets not forget the club went into administration and shafted their creditors. Like Southampton this enabled them to start afresh. Whilst the new owners have done brilliantly, they started with a clean slate and debt free. I am no fan of Tan but this is not what happened to us. We were already 50 million in the red when Tan took over.
Its very easy to take a simplistic view of a club but as you pointed out they had a good head start on other clubs would they have done what they have without going into administration one must doubt it!
Sun May 16, 2021 2:25 pm
pembroke allan wrote:actionman wrote:IN March 2013 we played this club in a championship match,since then in the eight years since they have won the Premier League ,FA Cup and played in the Champions League. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THAT WE CANT DO ???.
Came close to relegation sacked the manager for saving them brought in a foreign experienced manager in ranieri and with same team won premier league all because had owners who believed in a project they had using their billions ? This season opened a £100m training facility as part of long term strategy! So guess answer is have billions £££ and a workable plan something we have not had either manager wise or player wise... they have long term success plan while we've looked at instant success theres lies difference in clubs
Sun May 16, 2021 2:27 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:actionman wrote:IN March 2013 we played this club in a championship match,since then in the eight years since they have won the Premier League ,FA Cup and played in the Champions League. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THAT WE CANT DO ???.
Came close to relegation sacked the manager for saving them brought in a foreign experienced manager in ranieri and with same team won premier league all because had owners who believed in a project they had using their billions ? This season opened a £100m training facility as part of long term strategy! So guess answer is have billions £££ and a workable plan something we have not had either manager wise or player wise... they have long term success plan while we've looked at instant success theres lies difference in clubs
in one word......owner.
Sun May 16, 2021 4:15 pm
JJ1927 wrote:Lets not forget the club went into administration and shafted their creditors. Like Southampton this enabled them to start afresh. Whilst the new owners have done brilliantly, they started with a clean slate and debt free. I am no fan of Tan but this is not what happened to us. We were already 50 million in the red when Tan took over.
Sun May 16, 2021 4:17 pm
skidemin wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:actionman wrote:IN March 2013 we played this club in a championship match,since then in the eight years since they have won the Premier League ,FA Cup and played in the Champions League. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THAT WE CANT DO ???.
Came close to relegation sacked the manager for saving them brought in a foreign experienced manager in ranieri and with same team won premier league all because had owners who believed in a project they had using their billions ? This season opened a £100m training facility as part of long term strategy! So guess answer is have billions £££ and a workable plan something we have not had either manager wise or player wise... they have long term success plan while we've looked at instant success theres lies difference in clubs
in one word......owner.
agree...not that Tan is a bad owner { no doubt you dont agree } but the overall relationship between owners and fans is something i dont see us having here any time soon...
Sun May 16, 2021 6:50 pm
maccydee wrote:skidemin wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:actionman wrote:IN March 2013 we played this club in a championship match,since then in the eight years since they have won the Premier League ,FA Cup and played in the Champions League. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THAT WE CANT DO ???.
Came close to relegation sacked the manager for saving them brought in a foreign experienced manager in ranieri and with same team won premier league all because had owners who believed in a project they had using their billions ? This season opened a £100m training facility as part of long term strategy! So guess answer is have billions £££ and a workable plan something we have not had either manager wise or player wise... they have long term success plan while we've looked at instant success theres lies difference in clubs
in one word......owner.
agree...not that Tan is a bad owner { no doubt you dont agree } but the overall relationship between owners and fans is something i dont see us having here any time soon...
and it takes two to tango.
Tan has offered much and still some won’t let him forget the rebrand.
Sun May 16, 2021 6:54 pm
skidemin wrote:maccydee wrote:skidemin wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:actionman wrote:IN March 2013 we played this club in a championship match,since then in the eight years since they have won the Premier League ,FA Cup and played in the Champions League. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THAT WE CANT DO ???.
Came close to relegation sacked the manager for saving them brought in a foreign experienced manager in ranieri and with same team won premier league all because had owners who believed in a project they had using their billions ? This season opened a £100m training facility as part of long term strategy! So guess answer is have billions £££ and a workable plan something we have not had either manager wise or player wise... they have long term success plan while we've looked at instant success theres lies difference in clubs
in one word......owner.
agree...not that Tan is a bad owner { no doubt you dont agree } but the overall relationship between owners and fans is something i dont see us having here any time soon...
and it takes two to tango.
Tan has offered much and still some won’t let him forget the rebrand.
it is what it is...
Sun May 16, 2021 7:07 pm
Sun May 16, 2021 8:55 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Several things:
Recruitment - they have a very good scouting set-up. That helped them to sign players like Riyad Mahrez and N'Golo Kante for good prices.
Reinvestment in the team - They then sold these good players they'd brought in at a good price, for a very healthy profit. The money was reinvested in their team to enable them to replace them with good players
Owners being more involved - their owners are similar to Manchester City's in a way. What I mean by that is they haven't just invested in the club, they've invested in the whole city as well and taken an active part in the community. This has led to them being loved by their fans and that will always help you be successful
Managers - they have made very good managerial appointments on two occasions. After they stayed up under Pearson, they brought in a manager with a fantastic record in Claudio Ranieri - who helped them win the title. It didn't work out with Puel and Shakespeare. But they then made another fantastic appointment in bringing in Brendan Rodgers - who, in my opinion, is one of the best managers in the UK.
Size - some on here have deluded themselves to think otherwise, but the fact is that Leicester City are a much bigger club than us. Even long before their current owners came in
Sun May 16, 2021 9:17 pm
pembroke allan wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Several things:
Recruitment - they have a very good scouting set-up. That helped them to sign players like Riyad Mahrez and N'Golo Kante for good prices.
Reinvestment in the team - They then sold these good players they'd brought in at a good price, for a very healthy profit. The money was reinvested in their team to enable them to replace them with good players
Owners being more involved - their owners are similar to Manchester City's in a way. What I mean by that is they haven't just invested in the club, they've invested in the whole city as well and taken an active part in the community. This has led to them being loved by their fans and that will always help you be successful
Managers - they have made very good managerial appointments on two occasions. After they stayed up under Pearson, they brought in a manager with a fantastic record in Claudio Ranieri - who helped them win the title. It didn't work out with Puel and Shakespeare. But they then made another fantastic appointment in bringing in Brendan Rodgers - who, in my opinion, is one of the best managers in the UK.
Size - some on here have deluded themselves to think otherwise, but the fact is that Leicester City are a much bigger club than us. Even long before their current owners came in
Yes they are bigger in stature but they and similar clubs are where we should be aiming our sights as we have that potential...... But until somebody makes the club get off the merry go round we've been on past 10yrs or so we will probably only periodically have success like past 10yrs if we are lucky! Now is the time to change the whole set up and direction club is going.
Sun May 16, 2021 10:18 pm
Sun May 16, 2021 10:26 pm
skiprat wrote:Massively in debt more like. Still failed to establish ourselves in the premier league .no major trophy in the cabinet.we are where we've been for 16 of the last 18 seasons the second I don't see much progress there.
Mon May 17, 2021 9:02 am
Mon May 17, 2021 9:51 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:The Srivaddhanaprabha Family $3.7B net worth Vincent Tan net worth $750m or to put it another way Leicester City's owners have 5 times the resources that our owner does.
Mon May 17, 2021 10:14 am
maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Several things:
Recruitment - they have a very good scouting set-up. That helped them to sign players like Riyad Mahrez and N'Golo Kante for good prices.
Reinvestment in the team - They then sold these good players they'd brought in at a good price, for a very healthy profit. The money was reinvested in their team to enable them to replace them with good players
Owners being more involved - their owners are similar to Manchester City's in a way. What I mean by that is they haven't just invested in the club, they've invested in the whole city as well and taken an active part in the community. This has led to them being loved by their fans and that will always help you be successful
Managers - they have made very good managerial appointments on two occasions. After they stayed up under Pearson, they brought in a manager with a fantastic record in Claudio Ranieri - who helped them win the title. It didn't work out with Puel and Shakespeare. But they then made another fantastic appointment in bringing in Brendan Rodgers - who, in my opinion, is one of the best managers in the UK.
Size - some on here have deluded themselves to think otherwise, but the fact is that Leicester City are a much bigger club than us. Even long before their current owners came in
Yes they are bigger in stature but they and similar clubs are where we should be aiming our sights as we have that potential...... But until somebody makes the club get off the merry go round we've been on past 10yrs or so we will probably only periodically have success like past 10yrs if we are lucky! Now is the time to change the whole set up and direction club is going.
They had a big push with their debt being wiped. That’s huge.
I’m not sure us fans have the patience for and form of long term planning.
Clearly he mistook the mood with the rebrand but that was Tan trying to form a long term plan with massive investment. We liked it to start with but then changed our mind. Hence my second point above.
We have made massive strides and are unrecognisable from the club we were even 15 years ago. However, things can always be better.
Mon May 17, 2021 10:33 am
skidemin wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Several things:
Recruitment - they have a very good scouting set-up. That helped them to sign players like Riyad Mahrez and N'Golo Kante for good prices.
Reinvestment in the team - They then sold these good players they'd brought in at a good price, for a very healthy profit. The money was reinvested in their team to enable them to replace them with good players
Owners being more involved - their owners are similar to Manchester City's in a way. What I mean by that is they haven't just invested in the club, they've invested in the whole city as well and taken an active part in the community. This has led to them being loved by their fans and that will always help you be successful
Managers - they have made very good managerial appointments on two occasions. After they stayed up under Pearson, they brought in a manager with a fantastic record in Claudio Ranieri - who helped them win the title. It didn't work out with Puel and Shakespeare. But they then made another fantastic appointment in bringing in Brendan Rodgers - who, in my opinion, is one of the best managers in the UK.
Size - some on here have deluded themselves to think otherwise, but the fact is that Leicester City are a much bigger club than us. Even long before their current owners came in
Yes they are bigger in stature but they and similar clubs are where we should be aiming our sights as we have that potential...... But until somebody makes the club get off the merry go round we've been on past 10yrs or so we will probably only periodically have success like past 10yrs if we are lucky! Now is the time to change the whole set up and direction club is going.
They had a big push with their debt being wiped. That’s huge.
I’m not sure us fans have the patience for and form of long term planning.
Clearly he mistook the mood with the rebrand but that was Tan trying to form a long term plan with massive investment. We liked it to start with but then changed our mind. Hence my second point above.
We have made massive strides and are unrecognisable from the club we were even 15 years ago. However, things can always be better.
did you actually like it to start with..... i didnt and neither did anyone i know , thought it was something people reluctantly accepted as the price for overdue success.
Mon May 17, 2021 10:43 am
Mon May 17, 2021 10:46 am
maccydee wrote:skidemin wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Several things:
Recruitment - they have a very good scouting set-up. That helped them to sign players like Riyad Mahrez and N'Golo Kante for good prices.
Reinvestment in the team - They then sold these good players they'd brought in at a good price, for a very healthy profit. The money was reinvested in their team to enable them to replace them with good players
Owners being more involved - their owners are similar to Manchester City's in a way. What I mean by that is they haven't just invested in the club, they've invested in the whole city as well and taken an active part in the community. This has led to them being loved by their fans and that will always help you be successful
Managers - they have made very good managerial appointments on two occasions. After they stayed up under Pearson, they brought in a manager with a fantastic record in Claudio Ranieri - who helped them win the title. It didn't work out with Puel and Shakespeare. But they then made another fantastic appointment in bringing in Brendan Rodgers - who, in my opinion, is one of the best managers in the UK.
Size - some on here have deluded themselves to think otherwise, but the fact is that Leicester City are a much bigger club than us. Even long before their current owners came in
Yes they are bigger in stature but they and similar clubs are where we should be aiming our sights as we have that potential...... But until somebody makes the club get off the merry go round we've been on past 10yrs or so we will probably only periodically have success like past 10yrs if we are lucky! Now is the time to change the whole set up and direction club is going.
They had a big push with their debt being wiped. That’s huge.
I’m not sure us fans have the patience for and form of long term planning.
Clearly he mistook the mood with the rebrand but that was Tan trying to form a long term plan with massive investment. We liked it to start with but then changed our mind. Hence my second point above.
We have made massive strides and are unrecognisable from the club we were even 15 years ago. However, things can always be better.
did you actually like it to start with..... i didnt and neither did anyone i know , thought it was something people reluctantly accepted as the price for overdue success.
We liked the investment, we liked buying players. We changed our mind about what we were prepared to take to get that investment.
Mon May 17, 2021 11:04 am
skidemin wrote:maccydee wrote:skidemin wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Several things:
Recruitment - they have a very good scouting set-up. That helped them to sign players like Riyad Mahrez and N'Golo Kante for good prices.
Reinvestment in the team - They then sold these good players they'd brought in at a good price, for a very healthy profit. The money was reinvested in their team to enable them to replace them with good players
Owners being more involved - their owners are similar to Manchester City's in a way. What I mean by that is they haven't just invested in the club, they've invested in the whole city as well and taken an active part in the community. This has led to them being loved by their fans and that will always help you be successful
Managers - they have made very good managerial appointments on two occasions. After they stayed up under Pearson, they brought in a manager with a fantastic record in Claudio Ranieri - who helped them win the title. It didn't work out with Puel and Shakespeare. But they then made another fantastic appointment in bringing in Brendan Rodgers - who, in my opinion, is one of the best managers in the UK.
Size - some on here have deluded themselves to think otherwise, but the fact is that Leicester City are a much bigger club than us. Even long before their current owners came in
Yes they are bigger in stature but they and similar clubs are where we should be aiming our sights as we have that potential...... But until somebody makes the club get off the merry go round we've been on past 10yrs or so we will probably only periodically have success like past 10yrs if we are lucky! Now is the time to change the whole set up and direction club is going.
They had a big push with their debt being wiped. That’s huge.
I’m not sure us fans have the patience for and form of long term planning.
Clearly he mistook the mood with the rebrand but that was Tan trying to form a long term plan with massive investment. We liked it to start with but then changed our mind. Hence my second point above.
We have made massive strides and are unrecognisable from the club we were even 15 years ago. However, things can always be better.
did you actually like it to start with..... i didnt and neither did anyone i know , thought it was something people reluctantly accepted as the price for overdue success.
We liked the investment, we liked buying players. We changed our mind about what we were prepared to take to get that investment.
right...take your politician hat off and answer..... did you like being in red....
im fully aware people accepted the price as the attendances were good... but like ?
Mon May 17, 2021 11:27 am
skidemin wrote:maccydee wrote:skidemin wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Several things:
Recruitment - they have a very good scouting set-up. That helped them to sign players like Riyad Mahrez and N'Golo Kante for good prices.
Reinvestment in the team - They then sold these good players they'd brought in at a good price, for a very healthy profit. The money was reinvested in their team to enable them to replace them with good players
Owners being more involved - their owners are similar to Manchester City's in a way. What I mean by that is they haven't just invested in the club, they've invested in the whole city as well and taken an active part in the community. This has led to them being loved by their fans and that will always help you be successful
Managers - they have made very good managerial appointments on two occasions. After they stayed up under Pearson, they brought in a manager with a fantastic record in Claudio Ranieri - who helped them win the title. It didn't work out with Puel and Shakespeare. But they then made another fantastic appointment in bringing in Brendan Rodgers - who, in my opinion, is one of the best managers in the UK.
Size - some on here have deluded themselves to think otherwise, but the fact is that Leicester City are a much bigger club than us. Even long before their current owners came in
Yes they are bigger in stature but they and similar clubs are where we should be aiming our sights as we have that potential...... But until somebody makes the club get off the merry go round we've been on past 10yrs or so we will probably only periodically have success like past 10yrs if we are lucky! Now is the time to change the whole set up and direction club is going.
They had a big push with their debt being wiped. That’s huge.
I’m not sure us fans have the patience for and form of long term planning.
Clearly he mistook the mood with the rebrand but that was Tan trying to form a long term plan with massive investment. We liked it to start with but then changed our mind. Hence my second point above.
We have made massive strides and are unrecognisable from the club we were even 15 years ago. However, things can always be better.
did you actually like it to start with..... i didnt and neither did anyone i know , thought it was something people reluctantly accepted as the price for overdue success.
We liked the investment, we liked buying players. We changed our mind about what we were prepared to take to get that investment.
right...take your politician hat off and answer..... did you like being in red....
im fully aware people accepted the price as the attendances were good... but like ?