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Postby Forever Blue » Mon May 31, 2021 8:49 pm

Hmmmm very interesting listening to Cardiff City Chairman Dalman once again earlier


Interesting listening to Dalman,


Dalman said 2 players signed few days ago,not sure why not announced yet.

Then says dont worry about debt as it all to Tan not banks and then he said Tan will
leave Cardiff City debt free.

But Dalman says he very worried about Emiliano Sala fee if we lose case.

Dalman says he would love Ojo and Wilson back.
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon May 31, 2021 8:59 pm

Tried to put interview on here, but I am useless at all this technology :lol:
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Postby Barclay1 » Mon May 31, 2021 9:01 pm

Annis, I have no doubt that the two players are youth players we are promoting to 1st team squad members.

Also, did not Dalman at one point, admittedly a while back, say that the Sala fee was ringfenced?

Also saying he wants Ojo and Wilson back? He knows they won't be back so what is he trying to prove and to whom? That he is one of the fans? Rememner this is a guy who lives out of London and almost acquired Charlton?

Yes, the debt it to Tan, but he has run it up at a rate of knots during his tenure and is not looking to relinquish his control any time soon. Just because it is owed to Tan doesn't make the debt any less.
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon May 31, 2021 9:03 pm

Dalman also says No One takes money out of the club, yet Keith Morgan the account said in 2019 the accounts show
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Postby wez1927 » Mon May 31, 2021 9:04 pm

Great interview, basically we don't owe any money other than to vt also only Ken choo gets paid on the board
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Postby Sven » Mon May 31, 2021 9:08 pm

Contradictory talk again from Boris Dalman; but, if true, that's great news on finances and two new players...

The Sala situation will play itself out and there will be no winners in that arena whrer sadly, everybody loses; particularly the young man himself who lost his life... :cry:
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Postby Always City » Mon May 31, 2021 9:09 pm

Dalman, the same man buying Charlton, the same man on consultancy fees, same man who easily cons so many, with so much bullshit , can’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon May 31, 2021 9:11 pm

All I am going to say is, I met him many times, great talker, should of been an MP, I told him that and I don’t believe 95% of what he ever says. Brilliant talker but wow he knows how to sucker some in.
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Postby rumpo kid » Mon May 31, 2021 9:13 pm

Need to define what ‘taking money out’ actually means. It’s sometimes not the same as being paid.
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Postby worcester_ccfc » Mon May 31, 2021 10:05 pm

The thing is Dalman can say what he wants because there are unfortunately enough people out there who won't think for themselves and just believe every word he says.


Every interview he does, he says something different so I find it hard to ever believe him.
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon May 31, 2021 10:08 pm

Barclay1 wrote:Annis, I have no doubt that the two players are youth players we are promoting to 1st team squad members.

Also, did not Dalman at one point, admittedly a while back, say that the Sala fee was ringfenced?

Also saying he wants Ojo and Wilson back? He knows they won't be back so what is he trying to prove and to whom? That he is one of the fans? Rememner this is a guy who lives out of London and almost acquired Charlton?

Yes, the debt it to Tan, but he has run it up at a rate of knots during his tenure and is not looking to relinquish his control any time soon. Just because it is owed to Tan doesn't make the debt any less.




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Postby Ninian27 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:08 am

I just cant listen to the bloke, Dalman to me is just full of so much shall i say a high class BMW sales man.
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Postby fred keenor » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:15 am

Add, the accounts have still not been published at companies house
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Postby AfricanBluebird » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:27 am

Here is my honest opinion on the podcast. I have had a few hours to think about it.

Some positive and some negative. Full credit for Si and Andy for getting him on.

Firstly, Mehmet is a very good talker. Too good and some very political answers which sounded good but lacked substance - however, what chariman would reveal too much in what is essentially a fans forum.

Secondly, he does deserve credit for him to be on a podcast (around 2 hours) and taking questions, some tough ones - some he answered well, some not so much.

Thirdly, I did think for the most part he was being honest. I am one of those boring people who look through the accounts and while it is true he doesn't take a direct salary from the club he does, in my analysis based on the accounts, take plenty of expenses out of the club. So technically he is right, he doesn't take a full salary but his expenses, I imagine, are very high.

Fourthly, I agreed with him about most of the footballing issues discussed, especially the wider footballing issues, not just city. The distribution of money, the ridiculous ownerships etc. I did believe him when we said that people would approach the club over possible sales but not have any money to take it forward.... football is full of wanna be owners who are driven by ego not love of football, God knows we all see it.

Now for some of the negatives... In what universe would a chairman of a club NOT know that signings haven't been announced? That to me is crazy unless he is lying (time is going to tell on that front).. Also, I understand that a chairman can't know everything that is going on, but the Chairman SHOULD have met Rubin Colwill (shocking he had NEVER met him!) and phoned him to congratulate him on his Welsh call up to the euros.. in fact he should have called and congratulated all players. He should have been more clear about what the club is going to do for Whitts... he gave a useless answer to that and the Sala saga just goes on and on. I personally think we should have bitten the bullet and negotiated with Nantes and put this to bed a long time ago. Its made a tragic event much much worse.

All in all he does deserve some credit, and I did mentioned this on Twitter, for taking part, answering questions and being candid. However, for me it seems we have a part time chairman and the club deserves better than that.
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Postby AfricanBluebird » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:34 am

rumpo kid wrote:Need to define what ‘taking money out’ actually means. It’s sometimes not the same as being paid.


Exactly Rumpo... see my above comment. It may not be a salary but there are plenty of ways of getting money out of an organisation. consultancy fees, expenses, allowances etc
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Postby Igovernor » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:53 am

Tried to put interview on here, but I am useless at all this technology :lol:

Annis here you go :lol: :thumbup: :ayatollah:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v= ... _permalink
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Postby Bakedalasker » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:11 am

wez1927 wrote:Great interview, basically we don't owe any money other than to vt also only Ken choo gets paid on the board


So what about the other £39m debt that is not against Tans name?
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Postby Forever Blue » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:31 am

Igovernor wrote:Tried to put interview on here, but I am useless at all this technology :lol:

Annis here you go :lol: :thumbup: :ayatollah:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v= ... _permalink



Thank you Roger :lol: :thumbright: :thumbright:
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Postby Forever Blue » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:32 am

AfricanBluebird wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Need to define what ‘taking money out’ actually means. It’s sometimes not the same as being paid.


Exactly Rumpo... see my above comment. It may not be a salary but there are plenty of ways of getting money out of an organisation. consultancy fees, expenses, allowances etc



Plus I would love to see the expense sheets
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Postby Bluebird1977 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:35 am

Last set of accounts showed nearly 40 million owed to other debts that's without what VT is owed ( when he calls it in or whatever he does) yet dalman said we only owe one man. Are you telling me he's paid whoever this 39.5 million off since last April to "others".
Don't believe a word he says tbh. We had an extension yet still not put them in so it will be a fine and more money owed. Madness :lol:
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Postby Forever Blue » Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:40 am

Bluebird1977 wrote:Last set of accounts showed nearly 40 million owed to other debts that's without what VT is owed ( when he calls it in or whatever he does) yet dalman said we only owe one man. Are you telling me he's paid whoever this 39.5 million off since last April to "others".
Don't believe a word he says tbh. We had an extension yet still not put them in so it will be a fine and more money owed. Madness :lol:


Ian,

Once again Dalman spin and bullshit, but he still gets some believing.

It’s time for Dalman to move on and find his other club probably in the London area.
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Postby Clusterman » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:09 pm

The podcast from the link is dated June isn't it?
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Postby bluebird04 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:29 pm

so i was one of the viewers last night who asked several questions, such as who is signing players, the board or the manager, and then responsed with the Harris stating watters being a board signing.

i am not a fan of dalman, but one thing in his defence, he said he signed off on two other players the other day, and to be fair to him, it usually takes some time for the transfers to go through and get approved by the FA because our club can announce them. so it might just be that.
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Postby JulesK » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:54 pm

Go and ask some Owls fans if they would like to swap owners !!!!
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Postby maccydee » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:10 pm

Barclay1 wrote:Annis, I have no doubt that the two players are youth players we are promoting to 1st team squad members.

Also, did not Dalman at one point, admittedly a while back, say that the Sala fee was ringfenced?

Also saying he wants Ojo and Wilson back? He knows they won't be back so what is he trying to prove and to whom? That he is one of the fans? Rememner this is a guy who lives out of London and almost acquired Charlton?

Yes, the debt it to Tan, but he has run it up at a rate of knots during his tenure and is not looking to relinquish his control any time soon. Just because it is owed to Tan doesn't make the debt any less.


But it being to Tan, who owns the club makes it so much better for us.

It’s not gonna get us wound up by HMRC.
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Postby wez1927 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:14 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Great interview, basically we don't owe any money other than to vt also only Ken choo gets paid on the board


So what about the other £39m debt that is not against Tans name?

Tan's own company that was loaned and should of been paid back, the loan was for cash flow to buy Murphy etc the season we went up
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Postby Barclay1 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:40 pm

I'm not happy at what is happening behind the scenes at the club.

For me personally, it all spirals back to the question of our Premier league money and where that went.

Admìttedly there are a number of claims, counter claims and rumours, because that's all we have to go on, but I'd love an independent to go in and find out just what is going on, what went on, and where we are headed.
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Postby maccydee » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:46 pm

Barclay1 wrote:I'm not happy at what is happening behind the scenes at the club.

For me personally, it all spirals back to the question of our Premier league money and where that went.

Admìttedly there are a number of claims, counter claims and rumours, because that's all we have to go on, but I'd love an independent to go in and find out just what is going on, what went on, and where we are headed.


The £500 million? :laughing6:
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Postby Forever Blue » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:55 pm

maccydee wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:I'm not happy at what is happening behind the scenes at the club.

For me personally, it all spirals back to the question of our Premier league money and where that went.

Admìttedly there are a number of claims, counter claims and rumours, because that's all we have to go on, but I'd love an independent to go in and find out just what is going on, what went on, and where we are headed.


The £500 million? :laughing6:



Actually with the two promotions and the seasons combined with sponsorships, gate monies, etc if you read properly it’s worth near £400mill and if we had not been red, we lost an unbelievable income on merchandise etc etc
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