Forever Blue wrote:No minute silence for the D Day landings but England take the knee to a fckn drug addict thief..... what a absolute disgrace.... SHOCKING !!!!
This knee has to stop it’s beyond, I am actually speechless that they are still doing it.
I am fuming with the Welsh team yesterday and the English team today
AfricanBluebird wrote:I agree that it is shocking that the 77 anniversary of D-Day was not observed and player unions and the respective FA's should have reminded national teams of their responsibilities to observe the event.
So yes I agree, it's disgraceful that D-Day wasn't remembered.
However, taking the knee was/Is NOT just about Floyd George. Taking the knee was started by Colin Kaepernick way before Floyd George was murdered. That event escalated things in terms of public outrage in the US and more globally. He may have not been a great guy but it is not the place of the police to be judge, jury and executioners. And by God the US has problems with race. Take the NFL who last week announced that they are going to change their compensation scheme which had until now discriminated against black males because when they developed the compensations scheme they determined that black men had lower IQ and brain usage so brain damage wouldn't affect them so much... please google it, it's shocking. So when Colin Kaepernick started taking the knee, it was a response to huge inequalities in American society.
Now, we can debate whether taking the knee is appropriate or not in the UK. Personally, I am neutral on it because it is the players choice. However, I don't think it's particularly effective and has descended into tokenism. While we do need to so something about the rise of racist attacks (look at the stats about attacks on Asians recently), I am not sure taking the knee will help at all. However, if city take the knee I will not boo.... certainly not, this is my team and if they take the knee it is up to them.
As a side note, I personally do something with my kids to remember the war on significant anniversaries. This year we watched Saving Private Ryan and had a chat about it. I understand that it is a particular US biased movie but it did highlight the brutality of D-Day.
nojac wrote:A couple of years back , FIFA banned wearing the poppy , because it was political !
But you can take the knee to support BLM , which just shows , that the WOKE generation are winning, imaging that lot in a war !!!!!
Sam ReaN wrote:You know what the worst thing off all is....that football never needed to be fixed. Keep politics out of the beautiful game of football.
Jock wrote:AfricanBluebird wrote:I agree that it is shocking that the 77 anniversary of D-Day was not observed and player unions and the respective FA's should have reminded national teams of their responsibilities to observe the event.
So yes I agree, it's disgraceful that D-Day wasn't remembered.
However, taking the knee was/Is NOT just about Floyd George. Taking the knee was started by Colin Kaepernick way before Floyd George was murdered. That event escalated things in terms of public outrage in the US and more globally. He may have not been a great guy but it is not the place of the police to be judge, jury and executioners. And by God the US has problems with race. Take the NFL who last week announced that they are going to change their compensation scheme which had until now discriminated against black males because when they developed the compensations scheme they determined that black men had lower IQ and brain usage so brain damage wouldn't affect them so much... please google it, it's shocking. So when Colin Kaepernick started taking the knee, it was a response to huge inequalities in American society.
Now, we can debate whether taking the knee is appropriate or not in the UK. Personally, I am neutral on it because it is the players choice. However, I don't think it's particularly effective and has descended into tokenism. While we do need to so something about the rise of racist attacks (look at the stats about attacks on Asians recently), I am not sure taking the knee will help at all. However, if city take the knee I will not boo.... certainly not, this is my team and if they take the knee it is up to them.
As a side note, I personally do something with my kids to remember the war on significant anniversaries. This year we watched Saving Private Ryan and had a chat about it. I understand that it is a particular US biased movie but it did highlight the brutality of D-Day.
British broadcast media and football associations made this about BLM and Floyd. Self loathing extreme left filth despise everything this country’s ever achieved and would rather venerate a misogynist junkie career criminal than remember the boys who landed on those Normandy beaches.
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I was listening to the radio and one pundit made a great point. He said football is endanger of going the same way as the Labour Party. In other words it is too focused on Woke matters such as taking the knee but would prefer to ban the wearing of the poppy on remembrance day and are more worried about foreign criminals than real hero's who lost their lives on D-Day.
Eventually loyal supporters like me abandoned Labour (although I couldn't quite bring myself to vote Tory) and will not go back until it returns to its core value of looking after and listening to the working class.
I am becoming more disillusioned with Football who are following the same path. I have already cancelled my Sky subscription and hardly watch any Sky programmes. In my opinion more and more football fans will go the same way.
AfricanBluebird wrote:Sam ReaN wrote:You know what the worst thing off all is....that football never needed to be fixed. Keep politics out of the beautiful game of football.
I hear what you're saying Sam.
But tell that to the black players who receive huge amounts of abuse.
I am not saying taking the knee if helping with that, but Ian Wright has spoken eloquently about the abuse he, his sons and other black players receive. Volumes of abuse that goes beyond a few racist nutters online..
Nuclearblue wrote:AfricanBluebird wrote:Sam ReaN wrote:You know what the worst thing off all is....that football never needed to be fixed. Keep politics out of the beautiful game of football.
I hear what you're saying Sam.
But tell that to the black players who receive huge amounts of abuse.
I am not saying taking the knee if helping with that, but Ian Wright has spoken eloquently about the abuse he, his sons and other black players receive. Volumes of abuse that goes beyond a few racist nutters online..
And 99% of this abuse started because of this wokeness. One extremist behaviour encourages extremist behaviour in the other direction. Black players wasn’t getting the abuse until this knee shit. It isn’t right the abuse but the real cause of it is the knee.
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