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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby wez1927 » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:48 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:Have any of you seen the Gareth Thomas v Homophobia documentary (2017) and its followup 2 years later? Definitely worth a watch. I can't find the original but the follow-up is available here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJh4uPg4YYo

He talks about his experience of a homophobic attack when he was out in town, and only this week we've seen reports of another homophobic attack on the streets of Cardiff.

The 1930s Germany comment is, tbh, about as ridiculous as you can get. There is no comparison between free association of minority groups and government rounding minorities up and systematically murdering them.

We're not here blaming one particular group, be they white, straight, male, and we're certainly not here to push a "political" agenda. This is about acceptance and allowing people to feel safe at a football match. Society's attitudes towards LGBT people has changed and is continuing to change but there is a lot of work still to be done.


I have been attacked on the streets before now but no-one offered to make a documentary about it. Unfortunately society is full of pricks who pick on people violently (Chris Whitty comes to mind) that doesn't mean we need another 'identity' group to put a stop to it.

What we need is a proper Police force and Criminal Justice System to deal with people like that.

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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:02 pm

WestCoastBlue wrote:
Jock wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:I must've missed the ghettos being set up where the less pure are being sent by the Leeds and Arsenal gay groups :o Why's Nukes not complained about that not being reported by the MSM?

Bit of an OTT reaction isn't it? People like doing things with people of similar lifestyles/interests. At work I'd hang out and chat with the football fans and rock n roll listeners. I wouldn't go near the girl with a horse and Justin Bieber collection cause we have nothing in common. The mates I go to the pub/football/cinema/park/etc with are my mates cause we've got lots in common and can relate to eachother.

The more fans the merrier, if there's people who have been put off going to live football matches I don't see any harm in setting up a means to get them interested.


Well to open your eyes the harm caused is called division, i.e. putting one group ahead of all others. Football should be a political free experience and supporters should-not be subjected to brainwashing because someone else has a vested agenda


Political? Putting one group ahead of another? I’m not political just because I am from the lgbt community. I’m just a fan who wants to feel accepted ans safe and for the majority I do but seeing support from inside the club and others it would make it a lot more comfortable - almost like someone is saying your accepted here it’s fine. This isn’t about putting one group ahead of another? Not sure what you mean here but it certainly isn’t about division.

There’s been incidents in an LA Spa where men self identifying as women have entered the woman’s section and walked around with their (male) genitals on show to women and children. The women who complained were told it’s an LGTB friendly spa. So if that’s not putting one group (trans) in front of another what is?


How does an LGBT spa in America have any bearing on an LGBT football fans group in Cardiff? Are you expecting them to turn up to games naked?

No I’m giving an example of trans rights trumping woman and children’s rights and it’s not unique to California, there’s plenty of incidents of biological males entering woman’s spaces in this count ry.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby WestCoastBlue » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:09 pm

Jock wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Jock wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:I must've missed the ghettos being set up where the less pure are being sent by the Leeds and Arsenal gay groups :o Why's Nukes not complained about that not being reported by the MSM?

Bit of an OTT reaction isn't it? People like doing things with people of similar lifestyles/interests. At work I'd hang out and chat with the football fans and rock n roll listeners. I wouldn't go near the girl with a horse and Justin Bieber collection cause we have nothing in common. The mates I go to the pub/football/cinema/park/etc with are my mates cause we've got lots in common and can relate to eachother.

The more fans the merrier, if there's people who have been put off going to live football matches I don't see any harm in setting up a means to get them interested.


Well to open your eyes the harm caused is called division, i.e. putting one group ahead of all others. Football should be a political free experience and supporters should-not be subjected to brainwashing because someone else has a vested agenda


Political? Putting one group ahead of another? I’m not political just because I am from the lgbt community. I’m just a fan who wants to feel accepted ans safe and for the majority I do but seeing support from inside the club and others it would make it a lot more comfortable - almost like someone is saying your accepted here it’s fine. This isn’t about putting one group ahead of another? Not sure what you mean here but it certainly isn’t about division.

There’s been incidents in an LA Spa where men self identifying as women have entered the woman’s section and walked around with their (male) genitals on show to women and children. The women who complained were told it’s an LGTB friendly spa. So if that’s not putting one group (trans) in front of another what is?


How does an LGBT spa in America have any bearing on an LGBT football fans group in Cardiff? Are you expecting them to turn up to games naked?

No I’m giving an example of trans rights trumping woman and children’s rights and it’s not unique to California, there’s plenty of incidents of biological males entering woman’s spaces in this count ry.


Okay but how does that relate to this? With the formation of this group what rights of yours do you think will be getting trumped by the OP?
As I asked the other poster. How will this group’s existence affect your match day experience at Cardiff City?
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:24 pm

WestCoastBlue wrote:
Jock wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Jock wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:I must've missed the ghettos being set up where the less pure are being sent by the Leeds and Arsenal gay groups :o Why's Nukes not complained about that not being reported by the MSM?

Bit of an OTT reaction isn't it? People like doing things with people of similar lifestyles/interests. At work I'd hang out and chat with the football fans and rock n roll listeners. I wouldn't go near the girl with a horse and Justin Bieber collection cause we have nothing in common. The mates I go to the pub/football/cinema/park/etc with are my mates cause we've got lots in common and can relate to eachother.

The more fans the merrier, if there's people who have been put off going to live football matches I don't see any harm in setting up a means to get them interested.


Well to open your eyes the harm caused is called division, i.e. putting one group ahead of all others. Football should be a political free experience and supporters should-not be subjected to brainwashing because someone else has a vested agenda


Political? Putting one group ahead of another? I’m not political just because I am from the lgbt community. I’m just a fan who wants to feel accepted ans safe and for the majority I do but seeing support from inside the club and others it would make it a lot more comfortable - almost like someone is saying your accepted here it’s fine. This isn’t about putting one group ahead of another? Not sure what you mean here but it certainly isn’t about division.

There’s been incidents in an LA Spa where men self identifying as women have entered the woman’s section and walked around with their (male) genitals on show to women and children. The women who complained were told it’s an LGTB friendly spa. So if that’s not putting one group (trans) in front of another what is?


How does an LGBT spa in America have any bearing on an LGBT football fans group in Cardiff? Are you expecting them to turn up to games naked?

No I’m giving an example of trans rights trumping woman and children’s rights and it’s not unique to California, there’s plenty of incidents of biological males entering woman’s spaces in this count ry.


Okay but how does that relate to this? With the formation of this group what rights of yours do you think will be getting trumped by the OP?
As I asked the other poster. How will this group’s existence affect your match day experience at Cardiff City?
it won’t
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby nubbsy » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:40 pm

Wayne S wrote:As per, out come all the white, middle aged, heterosexual males suggesting there is nothing wrong with the world and if you want to be treated the same, be the same.

You can (say) all you want that there IS equality but you speak from (what you perceive to be) a high vaulted position.

We need equity before equality and that is absolutely nowhere near happening.

You say in public everyone is equal but behind closed doors that opinion is very, very much NOT the case for others. It is just lip service to try and quell any movement from getting a foothold in society.

LGBT+ and Racial Equality movements STILL heavily face into adversity in society and it is groups like this that give them a platform to help each other and feel safe when undertaking activities that WE take for granted.

You can bleat on about there being equality all you want but you are blind if you think there is not a section of society that would openly abuse individuals for the colour of their skin or their sexual preference.



This is what a triggered lefty with a victim mentality sounds like. It's really sad. I'm suprised you didn't tell us how privileged we are all are!
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby rumpo kid » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:57 pm

True mate..lefties must put everyone in a box. They’re happy then..
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Nuclearblue » Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:11 pm

Wayne S wrote:As per, out come all the white, middle aged, heterosexual males suggesting there is nothing wrong with the world and if you want to be treated the same, be the same.

You can (say) all you want that there IS equality but you speak from (what you perceive to be) a high vaulted position.

We need equity before equality and that is absolutely nowhere near happening.

You say in public everyone is equal but behind closed doors that opinion is very, very much NOT the case for others. It is just lip service to try and quell any movement from getting a foothold in society.

LGBT+ and Racial Equality movements STILL heavily face into adversity in society and it is groups like this that give them a platform to help each other and feel safe when undertaking activities that WE take for granted.

You can bleat on about there being equality all you want but you are blind if you think there is not a section of society that would openly abuse individuals for the colour of their skin or their sexual preference.



Wow did you really say that fucked up shit ? Judging someone by Age, gender, colour, sexual orientation . That makes you the number one bigot on this board. :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Welshman in CA » Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:12 pm

Jock wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Jock wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:I must've missed the ghettos being set up where the less pure are being sent by the Leeds and Arsenal gay groups :o Why's Nukes not complained about that not being reported by the MSM?

Bit of an OTT reaction isn't it? People like doing things with people of similar lifestyles/interests. At work I'd hang out and chat with the football fans and rock n roll listeners. I wouldn't go near the girl with a horse and Justin Bieber collection cause we have nothing in common. The mates I go to the pub/football/cinema/park/etc with are my mates cause we've got lots in common and can relate to eachother.

The more fans the merrier, if there's people who have been put off going to live football matches I don't see any harm in setting up a means to get them interested.


Well to open your eyes the harm caused is called division, i.e. putting one group ahead of all others. Football should be a political free experience and supporters should-not be subjected to brainwashing because someone else has a vested agenda


Political? Putting one group ahead of another? I’m not political just because I am from the lgbt community. I’m just a fan who wants to feel accepted ans safe and for the majority I do but seeing support from inside the club and others it would make it a lot more comfortable - almost like someone is saying your accepted here it’s fine. This isn’t about putting one group ahead of another? Not sure what you mean here but it certainly isn’t about division.

There’s been incidents in an LA Spa where men self identifying as women have entered the woman’s section and walked around with their (male) genitals on show to women and children. The women who complained were told it’s an LGTB friendly spa. So if that’s not putting one group (trans) in front of another what is?


How does an LGBT spa in America have any bearing on an LGBT football fans group in Cardiff? Are you expecting them to turn up to games naked?

No I’m giving an example of trans rights trumping woman and children’s rights and it’s not unique to California, there’s plenty of incidents of biological males entering woman’s spaces in this count ry.


You need to stay off the internet.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Welshman in CA » Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:36 pm

If you look at announcements on the general topics board you will see a thread dedicated to a whole list of different Cardiff City supporters clubs, nobody kicked up a fuss about them so what's the issue here? Seems to me that some people get a bit too outraged over anything that they don't like.

Doesn't bother me either way & it will not affect my life. Live & let live folks.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Willly the Wombat » Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:16 am

[quote=" Thankfully there are many people who aren’t homophobic, biphobic or transphobic [/quote]
Oh dear, left wing fat spotty left wing freaks again, two hours I've spent in gamming room talking to real people whose lives have been fucked with this bollox. I asked what the "Q" meant, took them a while and "Queer", some one who doesn't fit into the lefty binary, non binary socialist boxes.
Most of my real friends are homosexuals, not gay, they hate the word I acted as celebrent for a couple of weddings, all still together after so many years. In meantime, I've been divorced twice.

What about the Fat women in Wales, I've never seen so many fatties.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Willly the Wombat » Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:46 am

Nuclearblue wrote:So lets get this right !! The gay movement has been campaigning for decades to be treated as equals and quite rightly so. Now you have got that and let’s say it’s very much accepted in today world you now want to go back and make it you and us again ? To be separated from the population. Now why can’t you make your mind up you want to be equal or not ?
So shall we have a straight supporters group as well ? Maybe we should have ethnic supporters groups ? Tell you what why don’t you just join the Cardiff City supporters group and stop creating division. You campaign you don’t want division but here you are lobbying for it.
You can’t make this shit up

Nukes darling go to CCMB. Gabb (TVB), the Thomas' have long gone and dropped the two or three left in the shite.
It is pointless discussing anything. I'm nearly 90 years old yet look 40ish but back to work yesterday, whenever that may be :old:
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:54 am

Welshman in CA wrote:
Jock wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Jock wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:I must've missed the ghettos being set up where the less pure are being sent by the Leeds and Arsenal gay groups :o Why's Nukes not complained about that not being reported by the MSM?

Bit of an OTT reaction isn't it? People like doing things with people of similar lifestyles/interests. At work I'd hang out and chat with the football fans and rock n roll listeners. I wouldn't go near the girl with a horse and Justin Bieber collection cause we have nothing in common. The mates I go to the pub/football/cinema/park/etc with are my mates cause we've got lots in common and can relate to eachother.

The more fans the merrier, if there's people who have been put off going to live football matches I don't see any harm in setting up a means to get them interested.


Well to open your eyes the harm caused is called division, i.e. putting one group ahead of all others. Football should be a political free experience and supporters should-not be subjected to brainwashing because someone else has a vested agenda


Political? Putting one group ahead of another? I’m not political just because I am from the lgbt community. I’m just a fan who wants to feel accepted ans safe and for the majority I do but seeing support from inside the club and others it would make it a lot more comfortable - almost like someone is saying your accepted here it’s fine. This isn’t about putting one group ahead of another? Not sure what you mean here but it certainly isn’t about division.

There’s been incidents in an LA Spa where men self identifying as women have entered the woman’s section and walked around
with their (male) genitals on show to women and children. The women who complained were told it’s an LGTB friendly spa. So if that’s not putting one group (trans) in front of another what is?


How does an LGBT spa in America have any bearing on an LGBT football fans group in Cardiff? Are you expecting them to turn up to games naked?

No I’m giving an example of trans rights trumping woman and children’s rights and it’s not unique to California, there’s plenty of incidents of biological males entering woman’s spaces in this count ry.


You need to stay off the internet.

Men pretending they’re women need to stop flashing their dicks at children.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Once a blue always a blue44 » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:01 am

Jock wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Jock wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Jock wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:I must've missed the ghettos being set up where the less pure are being sent by the Leeds and Arsenal gay groups :o Why's Nukes not complained about that not being reported by the MSM?

Bit of an OTT reaction isn't it? People like doing things with people of similar lifestyles/interests. At work I'd hang out and chat with the football fans and rock n roll listeners. I wouldn't go near the girl with a horse and Justin Bieber collection cause we have nothing in common. The mates I go to the pub/football/cinema/park/etc with are my mates cause we've got lots in common and can relate to eachother.

The more fans the merrier, if there's people who have been put off going to live football matches I don't see any harm in setting up a means to get them interested.


Well to open your eyes the harm caused is called division, i.e. putting one group ahead of all others. Football should be a political free experience and supporters should-not be subjected to brainwashing because someone else has a vested agenda


Political? Putting one group ahead of another? I’m not political just because I am from the lgbt community. I’m just a fan who wants to feel accepted ans safe and for the majority I do but seeing support from inside the club and others it would make it a lot more comfortable - almost like someone is saying your accepted here it’s fine. This isn’t about putting one group ahead of another? Not sure what you mean here but it certainly isn’t about division.

There’s been incidents in an LA Spa where men self identifying as women have entered the woman’s section and walked around
with their (male) genitals on show to women and children. The women who complained were told it’s an LGTB friendly spa. So if that’s not putting one group (trans) in front of another what is?


How does an LGBT spa in America have any bearing on an LGBT football fans group in Cardiff? Are you expecting them to turn up to games naked?

No I’m giving an example of trans rights trumping woman and children’s rights and it’s not unique to California, there’s plenty of incidents of biological males entering woman’s spaces in this count ry.


You need to stay off the internet.

Men pretending they’re women need to stop flashing their dicks at children.


Yes there maybe a tiny minority in society that do this but it’s very rare. And it should be noted that these are men, not trans women which is completely different.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Nuclearblue » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:22 am

Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Jock wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Jock wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:I must've missed the ghettos being set up where the less pure are being sent by the Leeds and Arsenal gay groups :o Why's Nukes not complained about that not being reported by the MSM?

Bit of an OTT reaction isn't it? People like doing things with people of similar lifestyles/interests. At work I'd hang out and chat with the football fans and rock n roll listeners. I wouldn't go near the girl with a horse and Justin Bieber collection cause we have nothing in common. The mates I go to the pub/football/cinema/park/etc with are my mates cause we've got lots in common and can relate to eachother.

The more fans the merrier, if there's people who have been put off going to live football matches I don't see any harm in setting up a means to get them interested.


Well to open your eyes the harm caused is called division, i.e. putting one group ahead of all others. Football should be a political free experience and supporters should-not be subjected to brainwashing because someone else has a vested agenda


Political? Putting one group ahead of another? I’m not political just because I am from the lgbt community. I’m just a fan who wants to feel accepted ans safe and for the majority I do but seeing support from inside the club and others it would make it a lot more comfortable - almost like someone is saying your accepted here it’s fine. This isn’t about putting one group ahead of another? Not sure what you mean here but it certainly isn’t about division.

There’s been incidents in an LA Spa where men self identifying as women have entered the woman’s section and walked around with their (male) genitals on show to women and children. The women who complained were told it’s an LGTB friendly spa. So if that’s not putting one group (trans) in front of another what is?


How does an LGBT spa in America have any bearing on an LGBT football fans group in Cardiff? Are you expecting them to turn up to games naked?

No I’m giving an example of trans rights trumping woman and children’s rights and it’s not unique to California, there’s plenty of incidents of biological males entering woman’s spaces in this count ry.


And why would transwomen threatened rights of children and women? To be honest it’s the other way around. Yes a trans woman is biologically male but they are a women so what does it matter what physical parts they have? Trans women are much more afraid of being attacked physically and sexually than doing anything to anyone else. You post is implying that trans women are all sexual predictors - that’s simply not true and no more than anyone else in society. There have been lots of attacks and assaults on trans women in public places than the other way around there maybe one or two in history. All they are trying to do is use the loo in peace? There is a organised trans hate group TERFS which try to paint a very unrealistic picture or trans people and there aim is to cause division and hate. They spill out over into the media. Unfortunately this is the same sort of groups that used to be aimed at homosexuality but that is no longer working as it is a lot more accepted nowadays. So they are now focusing on a new minority group to cause distress too. Thank good some of us can see through it. :thumbright:



Your response is frightening tbh. You are ok with anyone flashing at children. And think it’s their right to do it in front of children in peace. Trying not to get to personal but I will say it that is paedophilia.
They are worried they will be attacked well yeah I can see why when they get there sick kicks like this and say they can do it in the name of trans rights or whatever.
Wow a simple thread by someone has turned into a rights for complete fruit loops that get a kick out of flashing there dicks at women and children. I’m sure there is the dark web that will accommodate your sick ideas you find appropriate.
This site isn’t a pro Peado site thank you. DISGUSTING
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:27 am

Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Jock wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Jock wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:I must've missed the ghettos being set up where the less pure are being sent by the Leeds and Arsenal gay groups :o Why's Nukes not complained about that not being reported by the MSM?

Bit of an OTT reaction isn't it? People like doing things with people of similar lifestyles/interests. At work I'd hang out and chat with the football fans and rock n roll listeners. I wouldn't go near the girl with a horse and Justin Bieber collection cause we have nothing in common. The mates I go to the pub/football/cinema/park/etc with are my mates cause we've got lots in common and can relate to eachother.

The more fans the merrier, if there's people who have been put off going to live football matches I don't see any harm in setting up a means to get them interested.


Well to open your eyes the harm caused is called division, i.e. putting one group ahead of all others. Football should be a political free experience and supporters should-not be subjected to brainwashing because someone else has a vested agenda


Political? Putting one group ahead of another? I’m not political just because I am from the lgbt community. I’m just a fan who wants to feel accepted ans safe and for the majority I do but seeing support from inside the club and others it would make it a lot more comfortable - almost like someone is saying your accepted here it’s fine. This isn’t about putting one group ahead of another? Not sure what you mean here but it certainly isn’t about division.

There’s been incidents in an LA Spa where men self identifying as women have entered the woman’s section and walked around with their (male) genitals on show to women and children. The women who complained were told it’s an LGTB friendly spa. So if that’s not putting one group (trans) in front of another what is?


How does an LGBT spa in America have any bearing on an LGBT football fans group in Cardiff? Are you expecting them to turn up to games naked?

No I’m giving an example of trans rights trumping woman and children’s rights and it’s not unique to California, there’s plenty of incidents of biological males entering woman’s spaces in this count ry.


And why would transwomen threatened rights of children and women? To be honest it’s the other way around. Yes a trans woman is biologically male but they are a women so what does it matter what physical parts they have? Trans women are much more afraid of being attacked physically and sexually than doing anything to anyone else. You post is implying that trans women are all sexual predictors - that’s simply not true and no more than anyone else in society. There have been lots of attacks and assaults on trans women in public places than the other way around there maybe one or two in history. All they are trying to do is use the loo in peace? There is a organised trans hate group TERFS which try to paint a very unrealistic picture or trans people and there aim is to cause division and hate. They spill out over into the media. Unfortunately this is the same sort of groups that used to be aimed at homosexuality but that is no longer working as it is a lot more accepted nowadays. So they are now focusing on a new minority group to cause distress too. Thank good some of us can see through it. :thumbright:

I’m not trying to take this thread off on a tangent but google Wi Spa Los Angeles . Check out how many male prisoners who claim to be women are banged up for noncery. Women’s and children’s rights are being trampled to appease mentally ill fruitloops. The whole Critical Theory bollox was dreamt up by French paedos like Foucault, Derrida and Satre and there’s a stench of paedophilia hanging over all of it.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby nubbsy » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:12 am

Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Jock wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Jock wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:I must've missed the ghettos being set up where the less pure are being sent by the Leeds and Arsenal gay groups :o Why's Nukes not complained about that not being reported by the MSM?

Bit of an OTT reaction isn't it? People like doing things with people of similar lifestyles/interests. At work I'd hang out and chat with the football fans and rock n roll listeners. I wouldn't go near the girl with a horse and Justin Bieber collection cause we have nothing in common. The mates I go to the pub/football/cinema/park/etc with are my mates cause we've got lots in common and can relate to eachother.

The more fans the merrier, if there's people who have been put off going to live football matches I don't see any harm in setting up a means to get them interested.


Well to open your eyes the harm caused is called division, i.e. putting one group ahead of all others. Football should be a political free experience and supporters should-not be subjected to brainwashing because someone else has a vested agenda


Political? Putting one group ahead of another? I’m not political just because I am from the lgbt community. I’m just a fan who wants to feel accepted ans safe and for the majority I do but seeing support from inside the club and others it would make it a lot more comfortable - almost like someone is saying your accepted here it’s fine. This isn’t about putting one group ahead of another? Not sure what you mean here but it certainly isn’t about division.

There’s been incidents in an LA Spa where men self identifying as women have entered the woman’s section and walked around with their (male) genitals on show to women and children. The women who complained were told it’s an LGTB friendly spa. So if that’s not putting one group (trans) in front of another what is?


How does an LGBT spa in America have any bearing on an LGBT football fans group in Cardiff? Are you expecting them to turn up to games naked?

No I’m giving an example of trans rights trumping woman and children’s rights and it’s not unique to California, there’s plenty of incidents of biological males entering woman’s spaces in this count ry.


And why would transwomen threatened rights of children and women? To be honest it’s the other way around. Yes a trans woman is biologically male but they are a women so what does it matter what physical parts they have? Trans women are much more afraid of being attacked physically and sexually than doing anything to anyone else. You post is implying that trans women are all sexual predictors - that’s simply not true and no more than anyone else in society. There have been lots of attacks and assaults on trans women in public places than the other way around there maybe one or two in history. All they are trying to do is use the loo in peace? There is a organised trans hate group TERFS which try to paint a very unrealistic picture or trans people and there aim is to cause division and hate. They spill out over into the media. Unfortunately this is the same sort of groups that used to be aimed at homosexuality but that is no longer working as it is a lot more accepted nowadays. So they are now focusing on a new minority group to cause distress too. Thank good some of us can see through it. :thumbright:



They can use the loo in peace, but they choose fuss instead. If you got a cock go in the mans, if you have a vagina go in the woman's.
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Postby Once a blue always a blue44 » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:12 am

Nuclearblue wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Jock wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Jock wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:I must've missed the ghettos being set up where the less pure are being sent by the Leeds and Arsenal gay groups :o Why's Nukes not complained about that not being reported by the MSM?

Bit of an OTT reaction isn't it? People like doing things with people of similar lifestyles/interests. At work I'd hang out and chat with the football fans and rock n roll listeners. I wouldn't go near the girl with a horse and Justin Bieber collection cause we have nothing in common. The mates I go to the pub/football/cinema/park/etc with are my mates cause we've got lots in common and can relate to eachother.

The more fans the merrier, if there's people who have been put off going to live football matches I don't see any harm in setting up a means to get them interested.


Well to open your eyes the harm caused is called division, i.e. putting one group ahead of all others. Football should be a political free experience and supporters should-not be subjected to brainwashing because someone else has a vested agenda


Political? Putting one group ahead of another? I’m not political just because I am from the lgbt community. I’m just a fan who wants to feel accepted ans safe and for the majority I do but seeing support from inside the club and others it would make it a lot more comfortable - almost like someone is saying your accepted here it’s fine. This isn’t about putting one group ahead of another? Not sure what you mean here but it certainly isn’t about division.

There’s been incidents in an LA Spa where men self identifying as women have entered the woman’s section and walked around with their (male) genitals on show to women and children. The women who complained were told it’s an LGTB friendly spa. So if that’s not putting one group (trans) in front of another what is?


How does an LGBT spa in America have any bearing on an LGBT football fans group in Cardiff? Are you expecting them to turn up to games naked?

No I’m giving an example of trans rights trumping woman and children’s rights and it’s not unique to California, there’s plenty of incidents of biological males entering woman’s spaces in this count ry.


And why would transwomen threatened rights of children and women? To be honest it’s the other way around. Yes a trans woman is biologically male but they are a women so what does it matter what physical parts they have? Trans women are much more afraid of being attacked physically and sexually than doing anything to anyone else. You post is implying that trans women are all sexual predictors - that’s simply not true and no more than anyone else in society. There have been lots of attacks and assaults on trans women in public places than the other way around there maybe one or two in history. All they are trying to do is use the loo in peace? There is a organised trans hate group TERFS which try to paint a very unrealistic picture or trans people and there aim is to cause division and hate. They spill out over into the media. Unfortunately this is the same sort of groups that used to be aimed at homosexuality but that is no longer working as it is a lot more accepted nowadays. So they are now focusing on a new minority group to cause distress too. Thank good some of us can see through it. :thumbright:



Your response is frightening tbh. You are ok with anyone flashing at children. And think it’s their right to do it in front of children in peace. Trying not to get to personal but I will say it that is paedophilia.
They are worried they will be attacked well yeah I can see why when they get there sick kicks like this and say they can do it in the name of trans rights or whatever.
Wow a simple thread by someone has turned into a rights for complete fruit loops that get a kick out of flashing there dicks at women and children. I’m sure there is the dark web that will accommodate your sick ideas you find appropriate.
This site isn’t a pro Peado site thank you. DISGUSTING


I have no idea what on earth you are talking about and how I started in one place and your reply ended up in timbucktoo. Where have I ever said that I’m ok with people flashing at children - I said that trans women aren’t sexual predictors which is what is implied (whether directly or indirectly) by many or if it’s not that, then men pretending to be women and using this to invade women’s spaces - how often does this really happen and even if it does it has nothing to do with transwomen. All I have stated is that women and children are at no more risk mixing with transwomen then they are anyone else. I feel as if you have read one word from each of my comment tbh. Read it properly before commenting because basically you are accusing me of being a peadophile and that it sinking pretty blooming gutter low. You are insulting tbh and I would be the first person to stand up for children’s right believe me esp when it comes to things like that but what I’m saying is what have trans women got to do with anyone flashing at kids or women? Absolutely nothing. To be honest your correct this post was supposed to be about something positive but you have completely taken if on a different track following my comments defending minority group members. I think enough is enough on the matter before it does get personal :cry: (to be honest it already has).
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Tony Blue Williams » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:16 am

Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:I must've missed the ghettos being set up where the less pure are being sent by the Leeds and Arsenal gay groups :o Why's Nukes not complained about that not being reported by the MSM?

Bit of an OTT reaction isn't it? People like doing things with people of similar lifestyles/interests. At work I'd hang out and chat with the football fans and rock n roll listeners. I wouldn't go near the girl with a horse and Justin Bieber collection cause we have nothing in common. The mates I go to the pub/football/cinema/park/etc with are my mates cause we've got lots in common and can relate to eachother.

The more fans the merrier, if there's people who have been put off going to live football matches I don't see any harm in setting up a means to get them interested.


Well to open your eyes the harm caused is called division, i.e. putting one group ahead of all others. Football should be a political free experience and supporters should-not be subjected to brainwashing because someone else has a vested agenda


Political? Putting one group ahead of another? I’m not political just because I am from the lgbt community. I’m just a fan who wants to feel accepted ans safe and for the majority I do but seeing support from inside the club and others it would make it a lot more comfortable - almost like someone is saying your accepted here it’s fine. This isn’t about putting one group ahead of another? Not sure what you mean here but it certainly isn’t about division.


So can anyone join the LGBT community or is it just for Lesbians, Gays, bisexuals and Transsexuals? After all that is the title of your group. If you are excluding everyone who does not fit your parameters then you are causing division and you are political.

By stating you want to be more 'comfortable' exposes the fact you want to be treated better than other fans.

The problem with minority groups is they are riddled with victimhood. Your response above quite clearly proves that.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Tony Blue Williams » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:31 am

Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
I have no idea what on earth you are talking about and how I started in one place and your reply ended up in timbucktoo. Where have I ever said that I’m ok with people flashing at children - I said that trans women aren’t sexual predictors which is what is implied (whether directly or indirectly) by many or if it’s not that, then men pretending to be women and using this to invade women’s spaces - how often does this really happen and even if it does it has nothing to do with transwomen. All I have stated is that women and children are at no more risk mixing with transwomen then they are anyone else. I feel as if you have read one word from each of my comment tbh. Read it properly before commenting because basically you are accusing me of being a peadophile and that it sinking pretty blooming gutter low. You are insulting tbh and I would be the first person to stand up for children’s right believe me esp when it comes to things like that but what I’m saying is what have trans women got to do with anyone flashing at kids or women? Absolutely nothing. To be honest your correct this post was supposed to be about something positive but you have completely taken if on a different track following my comments defending minority group members. I think enough is enough on the matter before it does get personal :cry: (to be honest it already has).


If a trans person has had the full operation to become either a man or woman I would accept that they are genuine and can share space with biological men and women.

However whilst they still have genitalia in place i.e. a Penis or Vagina they shouldn't be invading the safe space of biological men or women. This for obvious reasons as exposing the genitalia could easily happen whether contrived or by accident.

What people like you never take into consideration is the affect this has on innocent biological men and women. All your interested in is the victimhood of the trans person.

It is time that trans people were made aware that they don't have a special status which allows them to disrupt the lives of others. Until they are fully converted to the sex of their choice they must accept that it is them who has to be inconvenienced and not those who have nothing to do with their condition.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:19 am

Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Jock wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Jock wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Jock wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:I must've missed the ghettos being set up where the less pure are being sent by the Leeds and Arsenal gay groups :o Why's Nukes not complained about that not being reported by the MSM?

Bit of an OTT reaction isn't it? People like doing things with people of similar lifestyles/interests. At work I'd hang out and chat with the football fans and rock n roll listeners. I wouldn't go near the girl with a horse and Justin Bieber collection cause we have nothing in common. The mates I go to the pub/football/cinema/park/etc with are my mates cause we've got lots in common and can relate to eachother.

The more fans the merrier, if there's people who have been put off going to live football matches I don't see any harm in setting up a means to get them interested.


Well to open your eyes the harm caused is called division, i.e. putting one group ahead of all others. Football should be a political free experience and supporters should-not be subjected to brainwashing because someone else has a vested agenda


Political? Putting one group ahead of another? I’m not political just because I am from the lgbt community. I’m just a fan who wants to feel accepted ans safe and for the majority I do but seeing support from inside the club and others it would make it a lot more comfortable - almost like someone is saying your accepted here it’s fine. This isn’t about putting one group ahead of another? Not sure what you mean here but it certainly isn’t about division.

There’s been incidents in an LA Spa where men self identifying as women have entered the woman’s section and walked around
with their (male) genitals on show to women and children. The women who complained were told it’s an LGTB friendly spa. So if that’s not putting one group (trans) in front of another what is?


How does an LGBT spa in America have any bearing on an LGBT football fans group in Cardiff? Are you expecting them to turn up to games naked?

No I’m giving an example of trans rights trumping woman and children’s rights and it’s not unique to California, there’s plenty of incidents of biological males entering woman’s spaces in this count ry.


You need to stay off the internet.

Men pretending they’re women need to stop flashing their dicks at children.


Yes there maybe a tiny minority in society that do this but it’s very rare. And it should be noted that these are men, not trans women which is completely different.

The person who went into the Spa claims to be a woman, problem is women never ever have dicks. People who protested outside this Spa were attacked by an Antifa BLM mob. We have got to the stage where a gang of scum attacking a loan woman for complaining about a transvestite exposing himself to kids are portrayed as the good guys by sections of the British Press.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby skidemin » Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:16 pm

Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:Personally I think it’s a good idea but aslong as it’s safe space, as that is one thing I’d be concerned with is standing out and being vulnerable to verbal and physical abuse. At the end of the day it’s nothing to do with causing division, it’s about providing a safe space for LGBT+ people as let’s face it, there is still along way to go in terms of equality. For people who aren’t part of the lgbt+ community it may not be obvious to all but people are at a much higher risk of self harm and suicide and that’s just the start. If a women who is transgender for example walked into football pub are you telling me they wouldn’t get anyone making comments, no verbal or physical abuse? Would you happily sit next to them on the travel coach and have a conversation without feeling uncomfortable? My friend who is trans receives hate comments or avoidance pretty much everytime she goes somewhere. Why aren’t their any footballers out in the PL or championship? Afraid of fans?

Thankfully there are many people who aren’t homophobic, biphobic or transphobic and times have moved on with more awareness and less fear instilled by the media, TV and hate groups than there used to be. If something doesn’t affect someone of course people can be entitled to an opinion but not at the expense of hate. It always amazes me when people ask why do we need a pride? Well if someone has to ask that question, there’s clearly a lot more to be done.

It’s easy to brush something aside when it doesn’t affect you and we all guilty of it but as someone who has grown up with verbal and physical abuse as a result of being from the lgbt community and the lasting affect that it has had on my mental health and self esteem is crippling in many things that I do. Not everyone will agree and even within the lgbt community itself there are differences in opinion but when I see a rainbow flag or rainbow laces or whatever it is, to me it’s a symbol that I’m ok, I’m safe, I can be me, I have a friend or alley I am not going to be attacked. It about safety and being accepted for me. It definetely not about division.

This is just my opinion and others will have different experiences.




what do you consider creating a safe space....
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jimmy Scoular » Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:47 pm

Slippery slope we demand, we demand, we demand you must think like us or else we will have your job !!!! Where is this bullshit going to end.A mate of mine in the public sector was forced to attend a "Be Nice" course I kid you not !!!
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby WestCoastBlue » Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:37 pm

Still not found out what rights OP and his group will be infringing on nor how they’ll get preferential treatment to the rest of us?
Anyone care to also answer how your match day experience will be disrupted at the CCS with the formation of a Cardiff City LGBT group?

Any answers that don’t mention 1930’s Nazi Germans or Californian spas welcome :ayatollah:
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:37 pm

WestCoastBlue wrote:Still not found out what rights OP and his group will be infringing on nor how they’ll get preferential treatment to the rest of us?
Anyone care to also answer how your match day experience will be disrupted at the CCS with the formation of a Cardiff City LGBT group?

Any answers that don’t mention 1930’s Nazi Germans or Californian spas welcome :ayatollah:

What toilets would biological males in the group use?
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Canton104 » Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:45 pm

Can’t they just go as normal supporters?
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby rumpo kid » Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:23 pm

WestCoastBlue wrote:Still not found out what rights OP and his group will be infringing on nor how they’ll get preferential treatment to the rest of us?
Anyone care to also answer how your match day experience will be disrupted at the CCS with the formation of a Cardiff City LGBT group?

Any answers that don’t mention 1930’s Nazi Germans or Californian spas welcome :ayatollah:


No-one said it would.. it’s a non-question of high irrelevance.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby ProudBluebirds » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:37 pm

Great to see some positive posts supporting us.
Sadly some of the posts show a special kind of ignorance and considering some of you don't want politics rammed down your throats, I find it odd that you've come on to a post promoting the free organisation of LGBT+ supporters and banged on about "lefties", BLM, etc.

We have never set out for "special treatment", I find it baffling that there are objections to this. While initially the objections seemed to be only people not understanding why we are here, it very quickly descended into tired and dated tropes labelling LGBT+ people as sexual predators. If anything it reflects worse on the posters on here that you're sexualising basic bodily functions like going to the toilet. Trans women will continue to use the toilet they feel most safe in, as they are legally entitled to.

Re: us "segregating" - we welcome straight members as allies. I play for and coach an LGBT+ team which was set up for a similar purpose. Around a third of our membership is straight. They are there as allies and friends, they love the club, and understand why we exist, and the club would be worse off without them.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:26 pm

ProudBluebirds wrote:Great to see some positive posts supporting us.
Sadly some of the posts show a special kind of ignorance and considering some of you don't want politics rammed down your throats, I find it odd that you've come on to a post promoting the free organisation of LGBT+ supporters and banged on about "lefties", BLM, etc

We have never set out for "special treatment", I find it baffling that there are objections to this. While initially the objections seemed to be only people not understanding why we are here, it very quickly descended into tired and dated tropes labelling LGBT+ people as sexual predators. If anything it reflects worse on the posters on here that you're sexualising basic bodily functions like going to the toilet. Trans women will continue to use the toilet they feel most safe in, as they are legally entitled to.

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What about women and kids who feel threatened by trans women?
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby ProudBluebirds » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:09 pm

Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:Great to see some positive posts supporting us.
Sadly some of the posts show a special kind of ignorance and considering some of you don't want politics rammed down your throats, I find it odd that you've come on to a post promoting the free organisation of LGBT+ supporters and banged on about "lefties", BLM, etc

We have never set out for "special treatment", I find it baffling that there are objections to this. While initially the objections seemed to be only people not understanding why we are here, it very quickly descended into tired and dated tropes labelling LGBT+ people as sexual predators. If anything it reflects worse on the posters on here that you're sexualising basic bodily functions like going to the toilet. Trans women will continue to use the toilet they feel most safe in, as they are legally entitled to.

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What about women and kids who feel threatened by trans women?


Trans women's existence is a threat to nobody. Of course you'll find exceptions but it's a tired-assed trope to label all trans women as sexual predators based on the actions of a very tiny minority. It's the same shit that's been used against gay and bisexual men over the years and it's just totally false.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby skidemin » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:00 pm

ProudBluebirds wrote:
Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:Great to see some positive posts supporting us.
Sadly some of the posts show a special kind of ignorance and considering some of you don't want politics rammed down your throats, I find it odd that you've come on to a post promoting the free organisation of LGBT+ supporters and banged on about "lefties", BLM, etc

We have never set out for "special treatment", I find it baffling that there are objections to this. While initially the objections seemed to be only people not understanding why we are here, it very quickly descended into tired and dated tropes labelling LGBT+ people as sexual predators. If anything it reflects worse on the posters on here that you're sexualising basic bodily functions like going to the toilet. Trans women will continue to use the toilet they feel most safe in, as they are legally entitled to.

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What about women and kids who feel threatened by trans women?


Trans women's existence is a threat to nobody. Of course you'll find exceptions but it's a tired-assed trope to label all trans women as sexual predators based on the actions of a very tiny minority. It's the same shit that's been used against gay and bisexual men over the years and it's just totally false.



what exactly is your aim regarding having a safe environment.
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