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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:04 am

ProudBluebirds wrote:
Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:Great to see some positive posts supporting us.
Sadly some of the posts show a special kind of ignorance and considering some of you don't want politics rammed down your throats, I find it odd that you've come on to a post promoting the free organisation of LGBT+ supporters and banged on about "lefties", BLM, etc

We have never set out for "special treatment", I find it baffling that there are objections to this. While initially the objections seemed to be only people not understanding why we are here, it very quickly descended into tired and dated tropes labelling LGBT+ people as sexual predators. If anything it reflects worse on the posters on here that you're sexualising basic bodily functions like going to the toilet. Trans women will continue to use the toilet they feel most safe in, as they are legally entitled to.

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What about women and kids who feel threatened by trans women?


Trans women's existence is a threat to nobody. Of course you'll find exceptions but it's a tired-assed trope to label all trans women as sexual predators based on the actions of a very tiny minority. It's the same shit that's been used against gay and bisexual men over the years and it's just totally false.

No it’s not, firstly I’m not suggesting all trans people are wrong uns and second gay men were not invading women only areas. I think you’ve got St George syndrome, all the major social justice battles have been won, gay rights, woman’s rights and equality for black people are all enshrined in British Law. You’ve killed the dragon however you’ve still got your horse, sword and Lance but there’s no dragons left to slay. If someone has surgery to have their genitals removed at least they are serious about it, just sticking a ribbon in your hair and saying I identify as a woman should not allow you to access to women only areas. You talk about safe spaces surely women and kids deserve their safe space?
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Postby Tony Blue Williams » Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:28 am

Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:
Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:Great to see some positive posts supporting us.
Sadly some of the posts show a special kind of ignorance and considering some of you don't want politics rammed down your throats, I find it odd that you've come on to a post promoting the free organisation of LGBT+ supporters and banged on about "lefties", BLM, etc

We have never set out for "special treatment", I find it baffling that there are objections to this. While initially the objections seemed to be only people not understanding why we are here, it very quickly descended into tired and dated tropes labelling LGBT+ people as sexual predators. If anything it reflects worse on the posters on here that you're sexualising basic bodily functions like going to the toilet. Trans women will continue to use the toilet they feel most safe in, as they are legally entitled to.

.

What about women and kids who feel threatened by trans women?


Trans women's existence is a threat to nobody. Of course you'll find exceptions but it's a tired-assed trope to label all trans women as sexual predators based on the actions of a very tiny minority. It's the same shit that's been used against gay and bisexual men over the years and it's just totally false.

No it’s not, firstly I’m not suggesting all trans people are wrong uns and second gay men were not invading women only areas. I think you’ve got St George syndrome, all the major social justice battles have been won, gay rights, woman’s rights and equality for black people are all enshrined in British Law. You’ve killed the dragon however you’ve still got your horse, sword and Lance but there’s no dragons left to slay. If someone has surgery to have their genitals removed at least they are serious about it, just sticking a ribbon in your hair and saying I identify as a woman should not allow you to access to women only areas. You talk about safe spaces surely women and kids deserve their safe space?


Well said Jock :ayatollah:
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Abergavenny » Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:58 am

We have a supporters club so why do you want to create a division The last time i looked It was a supporters club Not a white heterosexual supporter club Now i have not been in the shoes of those who feel threatened but I have not seen anything in our stadium apart from chants when Brighton arrive and that is by a minority of idiots .
I sit in the grandstand and a gay couple sit a few rows in front and in the 10 odd years they have been there i have never heard anything said about them or too them In fact they are just seen as very good city supporters
You want to be treated the same so why ask for division to make yourselves different
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:29 am

Abergavenny wrote:We have a supporters club so why do you want to create a division The last time i looked It was a supporters club Not a white heterosexual supporter club Now i have not been in the shoes of those who feel threatened but I have not seen anything in our stadium apart from chants when Brighton arrive and that is by a minority of idiots .
I sit in the grandstand and a gay couple sit a few rows in front and in the 10 odd years they have been there i have never heard anything said about them or too them In fact they are just seen as very good city supporters
You want to be treated the same so why ask for division to make yourselves different

Great post, sadly in an era of identity politics some want to divide us.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby RV Casual » Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:01 pm

Haven't got time to go through every reply but my opinion for what it's worth is if Cardiff fans in that community feel like a group might help themselves or others then I don't see why anybody would have a problem with it to be honest.

It shouldn't be an issue really in todays world but if it makes it more comfortable and makes it easier then carry on with a view to integrate into the wider support.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby northside of risca » Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:03 am

ProudBluebirds wrote:We are looking for LGBT+ City fans to be a part of the club's first ever LGBT+ supporters network. The club are very keen to support the idea & are looking at a launch early in the new season. A number of other teams across the country have long running and successful supporters groups such as the Gay Gooners & Proud Lilywhites. Already since launching the Twitter profile we've had fans get in touch who are keen on the idea having been put off coming to matches due to homophobia and/or transphobia

If you're interested give us a follow on Twitter @Proudbluebirds or drop us an email on proudbluebirds@gmail.com


Out of interest what homophobia or transphobia do you think is deterring said fans from attending CCS ? Aside from the standard stuff that comes out when Brighton come to town (which they don’t) do you think there is an issue at Cardiff . Trying to think of chants that may be offensive to fans who don’t feel CCS is a ‘safe environment’ currently.

Singing rent boy to the opposition keeper (or Chelsea fans) is probably the only one I can think of although can’t recall that one coming out for a while . I don’t see why a gay person would find that offensive tbh, surely it’s the act of taking payment for the act in question as opposed to the act itself , ditto with the offence aimed in the word prostitute, however I’m aware that some ( straight or gay ) are more easily offended than others .

Struggling with any others to be honest so not really seeing much open homophobic behaviour down city . The Trans addition to the collective movement seems to be a recent thing that has gained a lot of momentum, can’t say I’ve heard any specific transphobic chants in grounds . Most people find it a bit odd but I think that’s about it . Does ‘ she fell over ‘ count , I’m not sure . Should the club put in gender neutral toilets ?

I’m with the majority on this thread , personally it wouldn’t impact my match day experience one bit ( whatever that feels like these days ) but I think it’s more divisive than anything. Particularly in a country that is so liberal when it comes to these things . We’re not living in Hungary or Poland gay people won the right for equal rights decades ago . If you associate with the group you refer these days it 100% gives you a leg up in the uk corporate world without a doubt so things have actually moved in the other direction.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Nuclearblue » Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:56 pm

northside of risca wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:We are looking for LGBT+ City fans to be a part of the club's first ever LGBT+ supporters network. The club are very keen to support the idea & are looking at a launch early in the new season. A number of other teams across the country have long running and successful supporters groups such as the Gay Gooners & Proud Lilywhites. Already since launching the Twitter profile we've had fans get in touch who are keen on the idea having been put off coming to matches due to homophobia and/or transphobia

If you're interested give us a follow on Twitter @Proudbluebirds or drop us an email on proudbluebirds@gmail.com


Out of interest what homophobia or transphobia do you think is deterring said fans from attending CCS ? Aside from the standard stuff that comes out when Brighton come to town (which they don’t) do you think there is an issue at Cardiff . Trying to think of chants that may be offensive to fans who don’t feel CCS is a ‘safe environment’ currently.

Singing rent boy to the opposition keeper (or Chelsea fans) is probably the only one I can think of although can’t recall that one coming out for a while . I don’t see why a gay person would find that offensive tbh, surely it’s the act of taking payment for the act in question as opposed to the act itself , ditto with the offence aimed in the word prostitute, however I’m aware that some ( straight or gay ) are more easily offended than others .

Struggling with any others to be honest so not really seeing much open homophobic behaviour down city . The Trans addition to the collective movement seems to be a recent thing that has gained a lot of momentum, can’t say I’ve heard any specific transphobic chants in grounds . Most people find it a bit odd but I think that’s about it . Does ‘ she fell over ‘ count , I’m not sure . Should the club put in gender neutral toilets ?

I’m with the majority on this thread , personally it wouldn’t impact my match day experience one bit ( whatever that feels like these days ) but I think it’s more divisive than anything. Particularly in a country that is so liberal when it comes to these things . We’re not living in Hungary or Poland gay people won the right for equal rights decades ago . If you associate with the group you refer these days it 100% gives you a leg up in the uk corporate world without a doubt so things have actually moved in the other direction.

Do fat people get put off going because every time the goalkeeper takes a kick everyone goes youuuuuuu Fat b*stard ?
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby rumpo kid » Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:30 pm

Quiet Nukes.. fat and proud doesn’t exist yet..
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby northside of risca » Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:06 am

Nuclearblue wrote:
northside of risca wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:We are looking for LGBT+ City fans to be a part of the club's first ever LGBT+ supporters network. The club are very keen to support the idea & are looking at a launch early in the new season. A number of other teams across the country have long running and successful supporters groups such as the Gay Gooners & Proud Lilywhites. Already since launching the Twitter profile we've had fans get in touch who are keen on the idea having been put off coming to matches due to homophobia and/or transphobia

If you're interested give us a follow on Twitter @Proudbluebirds or drop us an email on proudbluebirds@gmail.com


Out of interest what homophobia or transphobia do you think is deterring said fans from attending CCS ? Aside from the standard stuff that comes out when Brighton come to town (which they don’t) do you think there is an issue at Cardiff . Trying to think of chants that may be offensive to fans who don’t feel CCS is a ‘safe environment’ currently.

Singing rent boy to the opposition keeper (or Chelsea fans) is probably the only one I can think of although can’t recall that one coming out for a while . I don’t see why a gay person would find that offensive tbh, surely it’s the act of taking payment for the act in question as opposed to the act itself , ditto with the offence aimed in the word prostitute, however I’m aware that some ( straight or gay ) are more easily offended than others .

Struggling with any others to be honest so not really seeing much open homophobic behaviour down city . The Trans addition to the collective movement seems to be a recent thing that has gained a lot of momentum, can’t say I’ve heard any specific transphobic chants in grounds . Most people find it a bit odd but I think that’s about it . Does ‘ she fell over ‘ count , I’m not sure . Should the club put in gender neutral toilets ?

I’m with the majority on this thread , personally it wouldn’t impact my match day experience one bit ( whatever that feels like these days ) but I think it’s more divisive than anything. Particularly in a country that is so liberal when it comes to these things . We’re not living in Hungary or Poland gay people won the right for equal rights decades ago . If you associate with the group you refer these days it 100% gives you a leg up in the uk corporate world without a doubt so things have actually moved in the other direction.

Do fat people get put off going because every time the goalkeeper takes a kick everyone goes youuuuuuu Fat b*stard ?[/quote

Exactly!
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby katymcbride280 » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:35 am

I am a huge LGBTQIA+ supporter and I hope that one day we will have that Equality that we all need especially in these crazy times. My nephew who is a proud gay is very active in our local sports and I hope one day he can join the team, he is 8. I am also keen to keep our body healthy in order to keep us active, and I think in order for us to be healthy we need to make sure we are always aware of our overall health. If you guys have the time to read about the benefits of telehealth, feel free to check this little blog - https://curogram.com/blog/benefits-of-telehealth
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby WestCoastBlue » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:55 am

katymcbride280 wrote:I am a huge LGBTQIA+ supporter and I hope that one day we will have that Equality that we all need especially in these crazy times. My nephew who is a proud gay is very active in our local sports and I hope one day he can join the team, he is 8. I am also keen to keep our body healthy in order to keep us active, and I think in order for us to be healthy we need to make sure we are always aware of our overall health. If you guys have the time to read about the benefits of telehealth, feel free to check this little blog - https://curogram.com/blog/benefits-of-telehealth


How much are you getting paid to spam this telemedicine stuff?
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby skidemin » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:13 pm

katymcbride280 wrote:I am a huge LGBTQIA+ supporter and I hope that one day we will have that Equality that we all need especially in these crazy times. My nephew who is a proud gay is very active in our local sports and I hope one day he can join the team, he is 8. I am also keen to keep our body healthy in order to keep us active, and I think in order for us to be healthy we need to make sure we are always aware of our overall health. If you guys have the time to read about the benefits of telehealth, feel free to check this little blog - https://curogram.com/blog/benefits-of-telehealth



a proud gay at 8 ?
i also have a nephew who most of us { family } thought was going to be gay he was left to his own devices growing up not encouraged one way or other.. he is 28 now married to a woman has 3 kids , had previously had loads of girlfriends and still comes across as effeminate to a point his mates call him gay gav.. despite the nickname he isnt gay... stop putting children in boxes...
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Big Hill Blue » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:21 pm

8 years old. 8?! At that young age how the hell do you know with any certainty??
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby skidemin » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:30 pm

Big Hill Blue wrote:8 years old. 8?! At that young age how the hell do you know with any certainty??



i know...i hadnt even progressed to a johnny 7 OMA at 8 let alone sex...
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Big Hill Blue » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:38 pm

skidemin wrote:
Big Hill Blue wrote:8 years old. 8?! At that young age how the hell do you know with any certainty??



i know...i hadnt even progressed to a johnny 7 OMA at 8 let alone sex...


Johnny 7 OMA. Cool. Me and my sister had to play with Barbie and Ken....

Or Mr and Mrs Jenkins as they were called later in court

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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby A Quiet Monkfish » Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:57 am

katymcbride280 wrote:I am a huge LGBTQIA+ supporter and I hope that one day we will have that Equality that we all need especially in these crazy times. My nephew who is a proud gay is very active in our local sports and I hope one day he can join the team, he is 8. I am also keen to keep our body healthy in order to keep us active, and I think in order for us to be healthy we need to make sure we are always aware of our overall health. If you guys have the time to read about the benefits of telehealth, feel free to check this little blog - https://curogram.com/blog/benefits-of-telehealth


There's something decidedly creepy about people who would try to sexualize a child as young as 8. For me, it's bordering on pedophilia. You shouldn't be permitted to post on this board.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:27 am

A Quiet Monkfish wrote:
katymcbride280 wrote:I am a huge LGBTQIA+ supporter and I hope that one day we will have that Equality that we all need especially in these crazy times. My nephew who is a proud gay is very active in our local sports and I hope one day he can join the team, he is 8. I am also keen to keep our body healthy in order to keep us active, and I think in order for us to be healthy we need to make sure we are always aware of our overall health. If you guys have the time to read about the benefits of telehealth, feel free to check this little blog - https://curogram.com/blog/benefits-of-telehealth


There's something decidedly creepy about people who would try to sexualize a child as young as 8. For me, it's bordering on pedophilia. You shouldn't be permitted to post on this board.

Paedophilia is being normalized by the advocates of Critical Theory.
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby katymcbride280 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:19 am

Chile! we are just in a happy family. Ppl should normalize being able to see what's your children want when they are young. I know not everyone has the chance to see that but we are! and we are kind to understand and support him. Isn't this thread about supporting LGBT? yet ppl are somewhat mean and problematic. I would suggest you talk to your doctor and try telemedicine! http://curogram.com/blog/how-does-telemedicine-work #spreadlove #notHate #weluveverybody
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby WestCoastBlue » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:29 am

katymcbride280 wrote:Chile! we are just in a happy family. Ppl should normalize being able to see what's your children want when they are young. I know not everyone has the chance to see that but we are! and we are kind to understand and support him. Isn't this thread about supporting LGBT? yet ppl are somewhat mean and problematic. I would suggest you talk to your doctor and try telemedicine! http://curogram.com/blog/how-does-telemedicine-work #spreadlove #notHate #weluveverybody


Sorry could you post the link again? I missed it the previous 5 times :thumbup:
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:33 am

katymcbride280 wrote:Chile! we are just in a happy family. Ppl should normalize being able to see what's your children want when they are young. I know not everyone has the chance to see that but we are! and we are kind to understand and support him. Isn't this thread about supporting LGBT? yet ppl are somewhat mean and problematic. I would suggest you talk to your doctor and try telemedicine! http://curogram.com/blog/how-does-telemedicine-work #spreadlove #notHate #weluveverybody

What has anyone’s sexuality got to do with supporting a football team? Why do you want to separate people on the grounds of their sexual preferences, what about segregating by colour or religion you cool with that as well?
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:34 am

Jock wrote:
katymcbride280 wrote:Chile! we are just in a happy family. Ppl should normalize being able to see what's your children want when they are young. I know not everyone has the chance to see that but we are! and we are kind to understand and support him. Isn't this thread about supporting LGBT? yet ppl are somewhat mean and problematic. I would suggest you talk to your doctor and try telemedicine! http://curogram.com/blog/how-does-telemedicine-work #spreadlove #notHate #weluveverybody

What has anyone’s sexuality got to do with supporting a football team? Why do you want to separate people on the grounds of their sexual preferences, what about segregating by colour or religion you cool with that as well? Finally WTF has a South American country got to do with this??
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby skidemin » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:35 am

katymcbride280 wrote:Chile! we are just in a happy family. Ppl should normalize being able to see what's your children want when they are young. I know not everyone has the chance to see that but we are! and we are kind to understand and support him. Isn't this thread about supporting LGBT? yet ppl are somewhat mean and problematic. I would suggest you talk to your doctor and try telemedicine! http://curogram.com/blog/how-does-telemedicine-work #spreadlove #notHate #weluveverybody



are we going to sign Gary Medel again ?
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Igovernor » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:42 pm

Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:
Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:Great to see some positive posts supporting us.
Sadly some of the posts show a special kind of ignorance and considering some of you don't want politics rammed down your throats, I find it odd that you've come on to a post promoting the free organisation of LGBT+ supporters and banged on about "lefties", BLM, etc

We have never set out for "special treatment", I find it baffling that there are objections to this. While initially the objections seemed to be only people not understanding why we are here, it very quickly descended into tired and dated tropes labelling LGBT+ people as sexual predators. If anything it reflects worse on the posters on here that you're sexualising basic bodily functions like going to the toilet. Trans women will continue to use the toilet they feel most safe in, as they are legally entitled to.

.

What about women and kids who feel threatened by trans women?




Trans women's existence is a threat to nobody. Of course you'll find exceptions but it's a tired-assed trope to label all trans women as sexual predators based on the actions of a very tiny minority. It's the same shit that's been used against gay and bisexual men over the years and it's just totally false.

No it’s not, firstly I’m not suggesting all trans people are wrong uns and second gay men were not invading women only areas. I think you’ve got St George syndrome, all the major social justice battles have been won, gay rights, woman’s rights and equality for black people are all enshrined in British Law. You’ve killed the dragon however you’ve still got your horse, sword and Lance but there’s no dragons left to slay. If someone has surgery to have their genitals removed at least they are serious about it, just sticking a ribbon in your hair and saying I identify as a woman should not allow you to access to women only areas. You talk about safe spaces surely women and kids deserve their safe space?


That is an excellent point Jock, and one that I have been thinking about for a long time :thumbup:
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:21 pm

Igovernor wrote:
Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:
Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:Great to see some positive posts supporting us.
Sadly some of the posts show a special kind of ignorance and considering some of you don't want politics rammed down your throats, I find it odd that you've come on to a post promoting the free organisation of LGBT+ supporters and banged on about "lefties", BLM, etc

We have never set out for "special treatment", I find it baffling that there are objections to this. While initially the objections seemed to be only people not understanding why we are here, it very quickly descended into tired and dated tropes labelling LGBT+ people as sexual predators. If anything it reflects worse on the posters on here that you're sexualising basic bodily functions like going to the toilet. Trans women will continue to use the toilet they feel most safe in, as they are legally entitled to.

.

What about women and kids who feel threatened by trans women?




Trans women's existence is a threat to nobody. Of course you'll find exceptions but it's a tired-assed trope to label all trans women as sexual predators based on the actions of a very tiny minority. It's the same shit that's been used against gay and bisexual men over the years and it's just totally false.

No it’s not, firstly I’m not suggesting all trans people are wrong uns and second gay men were not invading women only areas. I think you’ve got St George syndrome, all the major social justice battles have been won, gay rights, woman’s rights and equality for black people are all enshrined in British Law. You’ve killed the dragon however you’ve still got your horse, sword and Lance but there’s no dragons left to slay. If someone has surgery to have their genitals removed at least they are serious about it, just sticking a ribbon in your hair and saying I identify as a woman should not allow you to access to women only areas. You talk about safe spaces surely women and kids deserve their safe space?


That is an excellent point Jock, and one that I have been thinking about for a long time :thumbup:

You thinking of transitioning mate :o
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby skidemin » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:43 pm

Jock wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:
Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:Great to see some positive posts supporting us.
Sadly some of the posts show a special kind of ignorance and considering some of you don't want politics rammed down your throats, I find it odd that you've come on to a post promoting the free organisation of LGBT+ supporters and banged on about "lefties", BLM, etc

We have never set out for "special treatment", I find it baffling that there are objections to this. While initially the objections seemed to be only people not understanding why we are here, it very quickly descended into tired and dated tropes labelling LGBT+ people as sexual predators. If anything it reflects worse on the posters on here that you're sexualising basic bodily functions like going to the toilet. Trans women will continue to use the toilet they feel most safe in, as they are legally entitled to.

.

What about women and kids who feel threatened by trans women?




Trans women's existence is a threat to nobody. Of course you'll find exceptions but it's a tired-assed trope to label all trans women as sexual predators based on the actions of a very tiny minority. It's the same shit that's been used against gay and bisexual men over the years and it's just totally false.

No it’s not, firstly I’m not suggesting all trans people are wrong uns and second gay men were not invading women only areas. I think you’ve got St George syndrome, all the major social justice battles have been won, gay rights, woman’s rights and equality for black people are all enshrined in British Law. You’ve killed the dragon however you’ve still got your horse, sword and Lance but there’s no dragons left to slay. If someone has surgery to have their genitals removed at least they are serious about it, just sticking a ribbon in your hair and saying I identify as a woman should not allow you to access to women only areas. You talk about safe spaces surely women and kids deserve their safe space?


That is an excellent point Jock, and one that I have been thinking about for a long time :thumbup:

You thinking of transitioning mate :o



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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby katymcbride280 » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:40 pm

WestCoastBlue wrote:
katymcbride280 wrote:Chile! we are just in a happy family. Ppl should normalize being able to see what's your children want when they are young. I know not everyone has the chance to see that but we are! and we are kind to understand and support him. Isn't this thread about supporting LGBT? yet ppl are somewhat mean and problematic. I would suggest you talk to your doctor and try telemedicine! http://curogram.com/blog/how-does-telemedicine-work #spreadlove #notHate #weluveverybody


Sorry could you post the link again? I missed it the previous 5 times :thumbup:


What link are you referring to? http://curogram.com/blog/how-does-telemedicine-work Because if you want to talk to your doctor online then schedule a telemedicine for your safety as well! Have a nice day ;)
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Igovernor » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:03 pm

Jock wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:
Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:Great to see some positive posts supporting us.
Sadly some of the posts show a special kind of ignorance and considering some of you don't want politics rammed down your throats, I find it odd that you've come on to a post promoting the free organisation of LGBT+ supporters and banged on about "lefties", BLM, etc

We have never set out for "special treatment", I find it baffling that there are objections to this. While initially the objections seemed to be only people not understanding why we are here, it very quickly descended into tired and dated tropes labelling LGBT+ people as sexual predators. If anything it reflects worse on the posters on here that you're sexualising basic bodily functions like going to the toilet. Trans women will continue to use the toilet they feel most safe in, as they are legally entitled to.

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What about women and kids who feel threatened by trans women?


Trans women's existence is a threat to nobody. Of course you'll find exceptions but it's a tired-assed trope to label all trans women as sexual predators based on the actions of a very tiny minority. It's the same shit that's been used against gay and bisexual men over the years and it's just totally false.

No it’s not, firstly I’m not suggesting all trans people are wrong uns and second gay men were not invading women only areas. I think you’ve got St George syndrome, all the major social justice battles have been won, gay rights, woman’s rights and equality for black people are all enshrined in British Law. You’ve killed the dragon however you’ve still got your horse, sword and Lance but there’s no dragons left to slay. If someone has surgery to have their genitals removed at least they are serious about it, just sticking a ribbon in your hair and saying I identify as a woman should not allow you to access to women only areas. You talk about safe spaces surely women and kids deserve their safe space?


That is an excellent point Jock, and one that I have been thinking about for a long time :thumbup:

You thinking of transitioning mate :o

No mate :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:
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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby Jock » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:58 am

Igovernor wrote:
Jock wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:
Jock wrote:
ProudBluebirds wrote:Great to see some positive posts supporting us.
Sadly some of the posts show a special kind of ignorance and considering some of you don't want politics rammed down your throats, I find it odd that you've come on to a post promoting the free organisation of LGBT+ supporters and banged on about "lefties", BLM, etc

We have never set out for "special treatment", I find it baffling that there are objections to this. While initially the objections seemed to be only people not understanding why we are here, it very quickly descended into tired and dated tropes labelling LGBT+ people as sexual predators. If anything it reflects worse on the posters on here that you're sexualising basic bodily functions like going to the toilet. Trans women will continue to use the toilet they feel most safe in, as they are legally entitled to.

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What about women and kids who feel threatened by trans women?


Trans women's existence is a threat to nobody. Of course you'll find exceptions but it's a tired-assed trope to label all trans women as sexual predators based on the actions of a very tiny minority. It's the same shit that's been used against gay and bisexual men over the years and it's just totally false.

No it’s not, firstly I’m not suggesting all trans people are wrong uns and second gay men were not invading women only areas. I think you’ve got St George syndrome, all the major social justice battles have been won, gay rights, woman’s rights and equality for black people are all enshrined in British Law. You’ve killed the dragon however you’ve still got your horse, sword and Lance but there’s no dragons left to slay. If someone has surgery to have their genitals removed at least they are serious about it, just sticking a ribbon in your hair and saying I identify as a woman should not allow you to access to women only areas. You talk about safe spaces surely women and kids deserve their safe space?


That is an excellent point Jock, and one that I have been thinking about for a long time :thumbup:

You thinking of transitioning mate :o

No mate :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby WestCoastBlue » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:22 am

katymcbride280 wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
katymcbride280 wrote:Chile! we are just in a happy family. Ppl should normalize being able to see what's your children want when they are young. I know not everyone has the chance to see that but we are! and we are kind to understand and support him. Isn't this thread about supporting LGBT? yet ppl are somewhat mean and problematic. I would suggest you talk to your doctor and try telemedicine! http://curogram.com/blog/how-does-telemedicine-work #spreadlove #notHate #weluveverybody


Sorry could you post the link again? I missed it the previous 5 times :thumbup:


What link are you referring to? http://curogram.com/blog/how-does-telemedicine-work Because if you want to talk to your doctor online then schedule a telemedicine for your safety as well! Have a nice day ;)


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Re: LGBT+ Supporters Group

Postby 1980s Bluebird » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:09 pm

I frankly couldnt give a monkeys if your gay, bi, straight, fat, slim, black, white, chinese or from Swansea. If you support the City you support the City. :bluebird:
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