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DERBY officially in administration

Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:05 pm

Derby County have entered administration and been deducted 12 points by the English Football League.

The Championship club announced their intention to call in administrators on Friday, with owner Mel Morris saying the coronavirus pandemic had cost them about £20m in lost revenue.

Morris has spent the past two days talking to players and staff, whose jobs are now uncertain.

Wayne Rooney's Rams drop to the foot of the table, on minus two points.

Andrew Hosking, Carl Jackson and Andrew Andronikou, managing directors at business advisory firm Quantuma, have been appointed joint administrators.

"We are in the early stages of assessing the options available to the club and would invite any interested parties to come forward," said Hosking.

"Our immediate objectives are to ensure the club completes all its fixtures in the Championship this season and finding interested parties to safeguard the club and its employees."
Club lost Morris 'in excess of £200m'

Morris became Derby's sole owner in 2015 but has actively been looking to sell since June 2019 following their Championship play-off final defeat by Aston Villa under Frank Lampard. Morris says the club has lost him "in excess of £200m" to date.

A first takeover deal is said to have collapsed in the aftermath of an EFL charge in January 2020 relating to the sale of Derby's Pride Park to Morris for £80m, despite it previously being listed as worth £41m.

Morris sorry over Derby administration

The stadium sale allowed the club to post a pre-tax profit of £14.6m in 2017-18 and therefore meet the EFL's spending rules.

The charge was dismissed in August 2020 but the Rams face a possible separate points deduction, speculated to be nine points, over their accounting policies - with no decision yet made on the punishment.

In March of this year Derventio Holdings, who were backed by the Abu Dhabi-based Bin Zayed Group, saw their takeover bid end while another from Spanish businessman Erik Alonso was called off in May.
'Serious enquiries' for the Rams

Derby have been under a transfer embargo since before the summer window opened, meaning the Rams have only been allowed to sign free agents with strict conditions on salaries.

Morris told BBC Radio Derby on Sunday that there had been "something in the region" of 15 enquiries for the club over the weekend, two or three of which he said were "very serious".

On the pitch, Derby had been 12th in the Championship under the management of England's record goalscorer Rooney, who has been in permanent charge since he officially retired as a player in January.

However the automatic penalty for going into administration will put the Rams six points adrift of second-bottom Nottingham Forest, their East Midlands rivals.
'Rooney is the man to lead the battle'

Ed Dawes, Derby County commentator for BBC Radio Derby:

Disbelief, tears, anger and frustration. The emotions of supporters of Derby County since Friday evening.

Saturday's win over Stoke City and the atmosphere at Pride Park was a stopgap to the eventual reality that the Rams would be placed bottom of the Championship, which is now where they are.

Questions surrounding chairman Mel Morris' 'cut and run', as it has been called by many supporters, still need to be answered and perhaps we will only find out now what state the football club is in.

A debt of more than £50m is not going to be turned around by the likes of a Lionel Pickering, the Rams' former chairman who spent his entire local newspaper fortune on the club. It will need to be a global multi-millionaire who can run a business and a football club, but be happy to wipe out the debt owed in one fell swoop.

The worry for supporters is not only the immediate 12-point deduction, it is the next move by the EFL regarding the unsubmitted accounts. Morris told me exclusively on Sunday that there is a failure of profit and sustainability rules in the recalculated documents following the amortisation saga, which in turn could lead to more points being taken off.

The one thing that is obvious around Derby right now is the togetherness of the fans and support for Wayne Rooney. Every battle needs a leader and Rooney is that man. He is unlikely to keep Derby in the Championship, but he told me on Saturday he is committed to the club and to navigate this journey. Whether that will be up to him and his price, rather than his ability, we will have to wait.

The club nearly went bust in 1984 in their centenary season, while 2021 marks 50 years since Brian Clough's side won their first old First Division title. A penny for his thoughts.

Re: DERBY officially in administration

Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:44 pm

Only 3 wins from safety this early in the season, very possible.
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Re: DERBY officially in administration

Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:12 pm

WOW the Clough legacy in one hell of a mess ( both clubs) :o

Re: DERBY officially in administration

Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:56 pm

Next season the club will be in League One with new owners, no debt and a good fan base. Give them a couple of years and they will be back in the Championship, revitalised and challenging for the Premier League just like Leicester and Southampton did. If I was a Derby fan i wouldn't be losing any sleep over it.

Re: DERBY officially in administration

Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:00 pm

by JJ1927 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:56 pm

Next season the club will be in League One with new owners, no debt and a good fan base. Give them a couple of years and they will be back in the Championship, revitalised and challenging for the Premier League just like Leicester and Southampton did. If I was a Derby fan i wouldn't be losing any sleep over it.


I agree but seems wrong to me that any club that battles for years may struggle to get back, but one that has broken really broken the rules has the slate wiped clean and is quickly far better off. I think the penalty should be far more severe.

Re: DERBY officially in administration

Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:43 pm

Scoularite wrote:
by JJ1927 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:56 pm

Next season the club will be in League One with new owners, no debt and a good fan base. Give them a couple of years and they will be back in the Championship, revitalised and challenging for the Premier League just like Leicester and Southampton did. If I was a Derby fan i wouldn't be losing any sleep over it.


I agree but seems wrong to me that any club that battles for years may struggle to get back, but one that has broken really broken the rules has the slate wiped clean and is quickly far better off. I think the penalty should be far more severe.

I agree with you in principle. The problem then, is that the club becomes harder to sell to new owners and this increases the risk that the club folds completely. But yes it will be a bit galling if in two or three years time we miss out on promotion to a debt free Derby County because we are restricted by the need to service the huge debt we have.

Re: DERBY officially in administration

Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:08 pm

JJ1927 wrote:
Scoularite wrote:
by JJ1927 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:56 pm

Next season the club will be in League One with new owners, no debt and a good fan base. Give them a couple of years and they will be back in the Championship, revitalised and challenging for the Premier League just like Leicester and Southampton did. If I was a Derby fan i wouldn't be losing any sleep over it.


I agree but seems wrong to me that any club that battles for years may struggle to get back, but one that has broken really broken the rules has the slate wiped clean and is quickly far better off. I think the penalty should be far more severe.

I agree with you in principle. The problem then, is that the club becomes harder to sell to new owners and this increases the risk that the club folds completely. But yes it will be a bit galling if in two or three years time we miss out on promotion to a debt free Derby County because we are restricted by the need to service the huge debt we have.


Playing a bit of Devils Advocate her but might it become EASIER to sell?

What if the penalty is dropping a few divisions, the overheads would be much less and you may get legitimate buyers coming in.

They will have a few years before they can get back but when they do the large fanbase would kick in and the owners faith in the lower divisions may be repaid.

The free ticket Leicester got to the big time still wranglers with me and although it is harder on administrators now, there is a size of club that can easily survive the process.

Let's be honest clubs the size of Derby should not be in this predicament, it is all due to the greed of people who then look for the easy way out.

Re: DERBY officially in administration

Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:27 pm

Wayne S wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:
Scoularite wrote:
by JJ1927 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:56 pm

Next season the club will be in League One with new owners, no debt and a good fan base. Give them a couple of years and they will be back in the Championship, revitalised and challenging for the Premier League just like Leicester and Southampton did. If I was a Derby fan i wouldn't be losing any sleep over it.


I agree but seems wrong to me that any club that battles for years may struggle to get back, but one that has broken really broken the rules has the slate wiped clean and is quickly far better off. I think the penalty should be far more severe.

I agree with you in principle. The problem then, is that the club becomes harder to sell to new owners and this increases the risk that the club folds completely. But yes it will be a bit galling if in two or three years time we miss out on promotion to a debt free Derby County because we are restricted by the need to service the huge debt we have.


Playing a bit of Devils Advocate her but might it become EASIER to sell?

What if the penalty is dropping a few divisions, the overheads would be much less and you may get legitimate buyers coming in.

They will have a few years before they can get back but when they do the large fanbase would kick in and the owners faith in the lower divisions may be repaid.

The free ticket Leicester got to the big time still wranglers with me and although it is harder on administrators now, there is a size of club that can easily survive the process.

Let's be honest clubs the size of Derby should not be in this predicament, it is all due to the greed of people who then look for the easy way out.

You're not wrong and it looks like Derby are being snapped up under those very circumstances... :(

Re: DERBY officially in administration

Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:45 am

This has been coming for years

Re: DERBY officially in administration

Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:17 pm

mjw6150 wrote:This has been coming for years


That's the point.

It's been obvious to everyone for years they have been over spending and the charges have been stacking up for months.

With that in mind, I'm not sure the penalty fits the crime..... for the owners. Still awful for the fans.