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Postby Forever Blue » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:31 am

Cardiff has a large catchment area from which to draw its supporter base. With only two professional teams (Swansea City and Newport County) sharing the South Wales region, Swansea being around 48 miles (78 kilometres) away, the club enjoys considerable support from both the city of Cardiff and the surrounding South Wales Valleys. With in 50 miles of Cardiff their are 1.5 million people including Cardiff itself.

As a Welsh club playing in the English football league system, national identity is believed to be a major factor in fan support, and some of the club's matches are considered to be Welsh cross-border rivalries with England.

In the 1950's and early 1960's Cardiff would attract up to 60,000 for a home game and regularly had 40,000 and 50,000 home crowds.

During the 1980s, as the club struggled in the lower divisions of English football, crowds dropped to an average of 3,000 per match. Crowds have gone as low as 1,400 for home games. An increase in the club's fortunes saw a steady improvement in crowd numbers. The average attendance at home matches rose from 3,594 to 12,522 between 1997 and 2002. Promotion to the second tier in 2003 brought further increases in numbers.


The opening of the Cardiff City Stadium led to average attendances reaching 20,000 fans, culminating with highs of between 28,000 and 33,000 during two seasons in the Premier League.Despite this increase, its been said many times potentially Cardiff get get 50,000 fans at home in the Premier League, the club has often been regarded as attracting fewer spectators than similarly placed teams as when times changes support drops to very low crowds.

This has been attributed to several factors such as the club's controversial change to red shirts between 2012 and 2015—some supporters being perceived as fairweather fans, and a lack of atmosphere.



Welsh national identity also contributes to the supporter culture of the club. "Men of Harlech", a song largely made famous by the 1964 film Zulu, which depicted a battle involving a Welsh regiment, and "I'll Be There", a take on a miner's song that was popular during the 1926 United Kingdom general strike, are both frequently sung before and during matches.

The Ayatollah, an act involving raising both arms up and down above the head in a patting motion, has become synonymous with the club and its supporters as a celebratory gesture since its adoption in the early 1990s.

The action has become popular with Cardiff fans outside football to show support for the club with boxer Nathan Cleverly, Olympic swimmer David Davies and rugby player Gareth Thomas all having performed the action at some points of their careers.
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Postby Forever Blue » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:34 am

Honours :bluebird: :bluebird:

Cardiff City's honours include the following:

League;

First Division (As first tier)

Runners-up: 1923–24
Second Division / Championship (As second tier)

Champions: 2012–13
Runners-up: 1920–21, 1951–52, 1959–60, 2017–18


Play-Off Runners-up: 2009-10
Third Division South / Third Division (As third tier)



Champions: 1946–47 (South)
Runners-up: 1975–76, 1982–83
Play-Off Winners: 2002-03


Fourth Division / Third Division (As fourth tier)

Champions: 1992–93
Runners-up: 1987–88, 2000–01
Promoted: 1998-99


Southern Football League Second Division

Champions: 1912–13
Cup

FA Cup

Champions: 1926–27
Runners-up: 1924–25, 2007–08



FA Charity Shield

Champions: 1927


Football League Cup

Runners-up: 2011–12



Welsh Cup

Champions: 1911–12, 1919–20, 1921–22, 1922–23, 1926–27, 1927–28, 1929–30, 1955–56, 1958–59, 1963–64, 1964–65, 1966–67, 1967–68, 1968–69, 1969–70, 1970–71, 1972–73, 1973–74, 1975–76, 1987–88, 1991–92, 1992–93
Runners-up: 1928–29, 1938–39, 1950–51, 1959–60, 1993–94, 1994–95
FAW Premier Cup

Champions: 2001–02
Runners-up: 1997–98, 1999–2000
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Postby Forever Blue » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:36 am

NINIAN PARK:


Cardiff's first ground was at Sophia Gardens recreational park, where the team played from their founding in 1899 until 1910.
With increasing support for the club, Bartley Wilson contacted Bute Estate, who owned large amounts of Cardiff at the time, in an attempt to find land suitable for building a stadium. They eventually agreed on an area of waste ground on Sloper Road. The land was a former rubbish tip and required extensive work to get a playable surface, but with the assistance of Cardiff Corporation and volunteers, the work was completed.[8] The original intention was to name the ground Sloper Park, but Ninian Park was chosen instead after Lord Ninian Crichton-Stuart, who was a driving force behind the ground's construction.

The ground hosted its first match on 1 September 1910 with a friendly against Aston Villa;[6] Lord Crichton-Stuart ceremonially kicked off the game.[84]

The stadium was built with one stand. A second, which replaced an earth embankment and could hold 18,000 people, was opened in 1928. It hosted its first international match in March 1911 with a Welsh match against Scotland.

Towards the end of its lifespan, the ground was replaced for international fixtures by Cardiff Arms Park as doubts mounted over the safety of the aging ground.

The club's record attendance in the ground is 57,893 which was achieved during a league match against Arsenal on 22 April 1953.

The scaling down of grounds throughout the 1970s and 1980s due to safety fears, which saw the ground capacity fall to 22,000, meant that the record stood until the ground's closure. In its final years of use, the club was forced to seek special dispensation from authorities to keep the remaining standing areas of the ground open beyond the three-year period given to clubs at Championship level or above to remove them.
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Postby Forever Blue » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:38 am

Cardiff City Stadium:


In 2006 the owner Sam Hamman acquired planning permission for the now Cardiff City Stadium for a capacity of 60,000.

In June 2009, the club completed construction of a 26,828-seat stadium on the site of the now-demolished old Cardiff Athletics Stadium at a cost of £48 million.



The ground was named the "Cardiff City Stadium". Three of the four stands retained the names used at Ninian Park—the Grange End, the Canton Stand and the Grandstand—and the fourth stand was named the Ninian Stand.[90] The ground's naming rights were expected to be sold, the club hoping to generate up to £9 million income; they remain unsold.[90] Although a pre-season friendly against Chasetown was played at the ground with limited capacity to test safety features,[92] the stadium was officially opened with a friendly against Scottish side Celtic on 22 July 2009.


The first competitive match played at the ground was on 8 August 2009, the opening day of the 2009–10 season, as Cardiff won 4–0 over Scunthorpe United.

When it opened, the Cardiff Blues rugby union club left their Cardiff Arms Park home to share the new stadium with Cardiff City. The move proved unpopular among fans of the rugby club, which returned to Cardiff Arms Park in 2012.

A few years after the stadium was built, plans to upgrade and expand the stadium were initiated. The expansion plans were completed in August 2014, and the seating capacity was raised to 33,416. In March 2015, it was announced that the Ninian Stand extension was to be shut for the 2015–16 season due to poor ticket sales, dropping the capacity to 27,978.t was reopened the following year due to an increase in demand.


Current Capacity 33,416 :bluebird:
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Postby cs_original » Fri Oct 08, 2021 12:15 pm

Annis I often wonder whether we fulfil our potential in terms of attendances. If you look at a map of the Northwest you see clubs such as Blackburn, Burnley, Preston, Rochdale, Bolton, Blackpool (I could go on) all in very close proximity to one another all getting decent crowds every week. Whereas the Welsh clubs only have 3 in South wales to compete with, all much further apart.
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Postby Don Keydick » Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:59 pm

Great read Annis. I was in a couple of 50k plus crowds in the early 70's, Arsenal and Leeds in the cup, and our crowds against Real Madrid and Hamburg were not far short of 50k, these were great occasions to be in crowds like that. Our game against Hereford in the mid 70's is still the biggest crowd for a home league game that I've been in, and that was a 3rd division night game. Mind you, I'm pretty sure there was more than the 35k that was announced (tax dodge?)

I read somewhere that Ninian Park was the first football league ground to have the floodlights upgraded for colour television. This was because it was a designated international ground, it sounds as if it could be right, any idea?
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Postby pembroke allan » Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:21 pm

Don Keydick wrote:Great read Annis. I was in a couple of 50k plus crowds in the early 70's, Arsenal and Leeds in the cup, and our crowds against Real Madrid and Hamburg were not far short of 50k, these were great occasions to be in crowds like that. Our game against Hereford in the mid 70's is still the biggest crowd for a home league game that I've been in, and that was a 3rd division night game. Mind you, I'm pretty sure there was more than the 35k that was announced (tax dodge?)

I read somewhere that Ninian Park was the first football league ground to have the floodlights upgraded for colour television. This was because it was a designated international ground, it sounds as if it could be right, any idea?



When floodlights were upgraded they were the most powerful in uk .... only Wembley was brighter because they had more lights... so guess that would mean they were at standard for colour tv ...
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Postby Scoularite » Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:41 pm

by Don Keydick » Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:59 pm

Great read Annis. I was in a couple of 50k plus crowds in the early 70's, Arsenal and Leeds in the cup, and our crowds against Real Madrid and Hamburg were not far short of 50k, these were great occasions to be in crowds like that. Our game against Hereford in the mid 70's is still the biggest crowd for a home league game that I've been in, and that was a 3rd division night game. Mind you, I'm pretty sure there was more than the 35k that was announced (tax dodge?)


I was there in the Grange End for Arsenal, Leeds, Real Madrid and Hamburg.
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Postby Forever Blue » Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:05 am

cs_original wrote:Annis I often wonder whether we fulfil our potential in terms of attendances. If you look at a map of the Northwest you see clubs such as Blackburn, Burnley, Preston, Rochdale, Bolton, Blackpool (I could go on) all in very close proximity to one another all getting decent crowds every week. Whereas the Welsh clubs only have 3 in South wales to compete with, all much further apart.


I’ve always thought the same, we should get way bigger crowds and we somehow don’t keep them when we actually do get big crowds.
You could say that well we don’t do well enough on the pitch, but for 21 yrs now we have done very well. :bluebird:
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Postby Forever Blue » Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:08 am

Don Keydick wrote:Great read Annis. I was in a couple of 50k plus crowds in the early 70's, Arsenal and Leeds in the cup, and our crowds against Real Madrid and Hamburg were not far short of 50k, these were great occasions to be in crowds like that. Our game against Hereford in the mid 70's is still the biggest crowd for a home league game that I've been in, and that was a 3rd division night game. Mind you, I'm pretty sure there was more than the 35k that was announced (tax dodge?)

I read somewhere that Ninian Park was the first football league ground to have the floodlights upgraded for colour television. This was because it was a designated international ground, it sounds as if it could be right, any idea?



Thank you :bluebird:

Yes I was their when we had 35,000 v Hereford, def way more in attendance :lol:

Yes I think your right about the floodlights :thumbright: :bluebird:
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Postby Blueman39 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:40 pm

Great read ....everything starts with kids in schools IMO ..we need to do more in the community in all areas .
And then give more value for families to come .
It’s too expensive as it is to bring a family of 4 .
When I lived in Hereford and they were League 2 ,
my lad went for a £1 ...and he still going 20 years later even though he’s moved away .
Interesting,Juventus used to write into players contracts that they had to do half a day a week visiting schools etc ...that was in the last 10 years I think.
City are definitely up there in terms of potential and I believe being the nations capital , we should be in the park with an ‘Everton ‘ size of club if the potential is ever fulfilled
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