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Re: petition for referendum welsh devolution

Postby Bluebina » Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:03 pm

litoblues wrote:https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/604096/signatures/new

please support this petition..its time to remove the money wasting senydd..which is destroying our livelihoods in wales


I signed last week or the week before mate, lets hope more do :thumbup:
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Re: petition for referendum welsh devolution

Postby BlueGog » Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:09 pm

Jock wrote:
stickywicket wrote:
Jock wrote:
Lengee wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
BigBearBlue1974 wrote:Nonsense. No more John Redwoods thankyou. All administrations get things wrong now and again.


And this explains why Wales is a failing state.


I shouldn’t have opened this thread - from an opening poster who can’t even get close to spelling “senedd”…. Yet wants a referendum on it :lol: :lol: :shock:
Onwards and downwards (!) :oops: to a post that refers to our country of Wales as a “failing state”. No doubt half the posters calling for this are people who have moved here from England (or Scotland). Huge numbers have come into Wales in recent years. e.g.there is a great effort by ‘blow-ins’ in Machynlleth - who have come to live in a lovely part of the country. Now they have a petition so that Welsh should not be compulsory in schooling. I guess in their world coming into an area and trying to trample over its history and culture is fine. Forget about all the local families who speak Welsh and have lived their lives in the area for 100s of years. I agree that black rights, gay rights etc should be respected. BUT what about the rights of Welsh people e.g.living in areas of Wales that are being overun by incoming people many of whom (by no means all) show no respect for the existing culture and residents.
Very little if any cogent arguement for getting rid of the senedd. However the huge numbers of incoming residents in Wales has and will change the political map. We have a country to be proud of. Yet we have to watch it dying through sheer numbers of people arriving and believing that it as part of England.
Our approach to Covid has generally been far better than that of Westminster. Those advocating abolishing the senedd because they see Wales as an add-on to England …well I have given up on them. They are like Boris - beyond shame.
I support my club (Cardiff) and my country (Wales).
:bluebird: :bluebird:

I’ve lived the majority of my life in Wales, paid income tax, VAT, NI, corporation tax, rates etc but according to you I shouldn’t have a say in Welsh affairs. My view that spunking a fortune pushing an ancient language is wrong, doesn’t benefit the country and should be spent elsewhere. I have no problem with people learning or speaking Welsh I just resent paying for it.

That's the way it is Butty boy
I don't like paying for a peado prince
or an English Prince of Wales..

Nor me.
My post was in response to the blood and soil Nationalism saying only pure born Welshmen should have a say in Welsh politics. An attitude that smacks of National Socialism of National Socialism to me


Wow Jock, who have you ever heard say this?
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Re: petition for referendum welsh devolution

Postby stickywicket » Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:32 pm

BlueGog wrote:
Jock wrote:
stickywicket wrote:
Jock wrote:
Lengee wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
BigBearBlue1974 wrote:Nonsense. No more John Redwoods thankyou. All administrations get things wrong now and again.


And this explains why Wales is a failing state.


I shouldn’t have opened this thread - from an opening poster who can’t even get close to spelling “senedd”…. Yet wants a referendum on it :lol: :lol: :shock:
Onwards and downwards (!) :oops: to a post that refers to our country of Wales as a “failing state”. No doubt half the posters calling for this are people who have moved here from England (or Scotland). Huge numbers have come into Wales in recent years. e.g.there is a great effort by ‘blow-ins’ in Machynlleth - who have come to live in a lovely part of the country. Now they have a petition so that Welsh should not be compulsory in schooling. I guess in their world coming into an area and trying to trample over its history and culture is fine. Forget about all the local families who speak Welsh and have lived their lives in the area for 100s of years. I agree that black rights, gay rights etc should be respected. BUT what about the rights of Welsh people e.g.living in areas of Wales that are being overun by incoming people many of whom (by no means all) show no respect for the existing culture and residents.
Very little if any cogent arguement for getting rid of the senedd. However the huge numbers of incoming residents in Wales has and will change the political map. We have a country to be proud of. Yet we have to watch it dying through sheer numbers of people arriving and believing that it as part of England.
Our approach to Covid has generally been far better than that of Westminster. Those advocating abolishing the senedd because they see Wales as an add-on to England …well I have given up on them. They are like Boris - beyond shame.
I support my club (Cardiff) and my country (Wales).
:bluebird: :bluebird:

I’ve lived the majority of my life in Wales, paid income tax, VAT, NI, corporation tax, rates etc but according to you I shouldn’t have a say in Welsh affairs. My view that spunking a fortune pushing an ancient language is wrong, doesn’t benefit the country and should be spent elsewhere. I have no problem with people learning or speaking Welsh I just resent paying for it.

That's the way it is Butty boy
I don't like paying for a peado prince
or an English Prince of Wales..

Nor me.
My post was in response to the blood and soil Nationalism saying only pure born Welshmen should have a say in Welsh politics. An attitude that smacks of National Socialism of National Socialism to me


Wow Jock, who have you ever heard say this?

Just to clarify . I was referring to your remark about taxation.
I've got no problem about where you was born or having your say on Welsh politics.
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Re: petition for referendum welsh devolution

Postby Jock » Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:30 pm

BlueGog wrote:
Jock wrote:
stickywicket wrote:
Jock wrote:
Lengee wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
BigBearBlue1974 wrote:Nonsense. No more John Redwoods thankyou. All administrations get things wrong now and again.


And this explains why Wales is a failing state.


I shouldn’t have opened this thread - from an opening poster who can’t even get close to spelling “senedd”…. Yet wants a referendum on it :lol: :lol: :shock:
Onwards and downwards (!) :oops: to a post that refers to our country of Wales as a “failing state”. No doubt half the posters calling for this are people who have moved here from England (or Scotland). Huge numbers have come into Wales in recent years. e.g.there is a great effort by ‘blow-ins’ in Machynlleth - who have come to live in a lovely part of the country. Now they have a petition so that Welsh should not be compulsory in schooling. I guess in their world coming into an area and trying to trample over its history and culture is fine. Forget about all the local families who speak Welsh and have lived their lives in the area for 100s of years. I agree that black rights, gay rights etc should be respected. BUT what about the rights of Welsh people e.g.living in areas of Wales that are being overun by incoming people many of whom (by no means all) show no respect for the existing culture and residents.
Very little if any cogent arguement for getting rid of the senedd. However the huge numbers of incoming residents in Wales has and will change the political map. We have a country to be proud of. Yet we have to watch it dying through sheer numbers of people arriving and believing that it as part of England.
Our approach to Covid has generally been far better than that of Westminster. Those advocating abolishing the senedd because they see Wales as an add-on to England …well I have given up on them. They are like Boris - beyond shame.
I support my club (Cardiff) and my country (Wales).
:bluebird: :bluebird:

I’ve lived the majority of my life in Wales, paid income tax, VAT, NI, corporation tax, rates etc but according to you I shouldn’t have a say in Welsh affairs. My view that spunking a fortune pushing an ancient language is wrong, doesn’t benefit the country and should be spent elsewhere. I have no problem with people learning or speaking Welsh I just resent paying for it.

That's the way it is Butty boy
I don't like paying for a peado prince
or an English Prince of Wales..

Nor me.
My post was in response to the blood and soil Nationalism saying only pure born Welshmen should have a say in Welsh politics. An attitude that smacks of National Socialism of National Socialism to me


Wow Jock, who have you ever heard say this?

Lengee was moaning about it earlier in the thread.
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