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Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:01 pm

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...... one is against Huddersfield?

Can someone work out if this is correct? Seems right due to Huddersfield and Reading playing each other on the last day of the season. Just trying to work out the least points required.

Bear with me.

Two draws and, say, a poor 3-0 loss would put us on 48pts and a goal difference of -17.

If Reading and Huddersfield draw then Reading can only get to 47pts.

If Huddersfield beat Reading then Reading, at most can only get 46pts.

If Reading beat Huddersfield. Then Huddersfield can, at best, get 48pts, like us, but having to beat Sheff U by 3 goals to do us on goal difference.

So as long as there is not a 6 goal swing between our loss and Huddefsfield's win at Sheff U we would be safe with 2 draws as long as one is against Huddersfield.

Yes I know, let's just get the win and draw needed
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Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:04 am

I just think we need to go with the mind set of just getting that win and when we get it, get another one. :bluebird:

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:38 am

Win tomorrow night and everything else is not in the equasion

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:30 am

Its how I'm looking at it. Avoid defeats in the next 2 games and we should survive.

A win would be nice tomorrow though.

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Wed Apr 26, 2023 10:09 am

Whistler wrote:Win tomorrow night and everything else is not in the equasion


Not quite. 49pts can be reached by both Hudderfield (50pts) and Reading (49pts)

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:06 pm

Wayne S wrote:
Whistler wrote:Win tomorrow night and everything else is not in the equasion


Not quite. 49pts can be reached by both Hudderfield (50pts) and Reading (49pts)


But reading would also need to over turn the goal difference

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:27 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Its how I'm looking at it. Avoid defeats in the next 2 games and we should survive.

A win would be nice tomorrow though.


Agree .

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:42 am

A 4-0 win tonight should do it :)

Come on

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:28 am

Wayne S wrote:
Whistler wrote:Win tomorrow night and everything else is not in the equasion


Not quite. 49pts can be reached by both Hudderfield (50pts) and Reading (49pts)



they cant both reach those as they play each other.

two draws will keep us up

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:43 am

Wayne S wrote:.
...... one is against Huddersfield?

Can someone work out if this is correct? Seems right due to Huddersfield and Reading playing each other on the last day of the season. Just trying to work out the least points required.

Bear with me.

Two draws and, say, a poor 3-0 loss would put us on 48pts and a goal difference of -17.

If Reading and Huddersfield draw then Reading can only get to 47pts.

If Huddersfield beat Reading then Reading, at most can only get 46pts.

If Reading beat Huddersfield. Then Huddersfield can, at best, get 48pts, like us, but having to beat Sheff U by 3 goals to do us on goal difference.

So as long as there is not a 6 goal swing between our loss and Huddefsfield's win at Sheff U we would be safe with 2 draws as long as one is against Huddersfield.

Yes I know, let's just get the win and draw needed
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With Sheffield utd mcburnie et al promoted would they send us or fellow Yorkshire side Huddersfield down ? 3 or 4 nil Huddersfield would not surprise me in the least. Let us take charge of our own destiny :bluebird:

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:43 am

Wayne S wrote:.
...... one is against Huddersfield?

Can someone work out if this is correct? Seems right due to Huddersfield and Reading playing each other on the last day of the season. Just trying to work out the least points required.

Bear with me.

Two draws and, say, a poor 3-0 loss would put us on 48pts and a goal difference of -17.

If Reading and Huddersfield draw then Reading can only get to 47pts.

If Huddersfield beat Reading then Reading, at most can only get 46pts.

If Reading beat Huddersfield. Then Huddersfield can, at best, get 48pts, like us, but having to beat Sheff U by 3 goals to do us on goal difference.

So as long as there is not a 6 goal swing between our loss and Huddefsfield's win at Sheff U we would be safe with 2 draws as long as one is against Huddersfield.

Yes I know, let's just get the win and draw needed
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With Sheffield utd mcburnie et al promoted would they send us or fellow Yorkshire side Huddersfield down ? 3 or 4 nil Huddersfield would not surprise me in the least. Let us take charge of our own destiny :bluebird:

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:46 am

paulh_85 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
Whistler wrote:Win tomorrow night and everything else is not in the equasion


Not quite. 49pts can be reached by both Hudderfield (50pts) and Reading (49pts)


they cant both reach those as they play each other.

two draws will keep us up


If Reading win both their games (including Huddersfield) they will have 49pts.

So Hudderfield lose to reading but if they win their other two games they will have 50pts.

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:00 am

Wayne S wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
Whistler wrote:Win tomorrow night and everything else is not in the equasion


Not quite. 49pts can be reached by both Hudderfield (50pts) and Reading (49pts)


they cant both reach those as they play each other.

two draws will keep us up


If Reading win both their games (including Huddersfield) they will have 49pts.

So Hudderfield lose to reading but if they win their other two games they will have 50pts.


The real game we should be looking at is Reading v Wigan this Saturday. A Wigan win would be the perfect result for us. Then goal difference would come into it all. We have a much better goal difference that both Reading and Wigan. If we end up going down after that then we deserve to be in League One.

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:22 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
The real game we should be looking at is Reading v Wigan this Saturday. A Wigan win would be the perfect result for us. Then goal difference would come into it all. We have a much better goal difference that both Reading and Wigan. If we end up going down after that then we deserve to be in League One.


Deffo, forgot about that one.

It's last chance saloon for Wigan only a win will do.

An added advantage is that; us and Huddersfield don't play until the next day so Wigan cannot even keep an eye on that game to see if their effort could be in vain and give up.

If that makes sense.

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:51 am

Just win today. And plan for next season.

Re: Is Two Points Enough (GD Pending) IF .........

Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:22 pm

bluebird7291 wrote:Just win today. And plan for next season.


;) :thumbup: