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Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 10:14 am

Cardiff City are not under the Transfer Embargo due to finally paying the first instalment for Emiliano Sala.

But We have the Three Transfer Windows on our club, because due to EFL rules which state if you can’t pay the money owing on a transfer and we were even given a final 30 day warning which we even failed to pay in those 30 days after 4 years of being told to, the rule states if you can’t afford to pay money that you owe to another club then you can’t have money to be able to buy from other clubs.

So it does not appear on the Transfer Embargo Website as we are under different rules we have now broken.

So this rule will stay with us for the This Summer and next January.
As you know we can get loans, free agents etc But NO money must be involved due to us owing money and this could be extended if we don’t pay the next instalment for Sala which that one is now 3 years late.



Previous embargo has been lifted and was under FIFA, disallowing us to register any players. That was different embargo.



Apparently Ridsdale is involved and our Hierarchy are not happy about that and rightly so.

Solicitors are taking to the EFL.
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Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 12:29 pm

The idea behind the ruling would appear to be that a club should not be able to benefit by having a player for whom they have not paid the full transfer fee and normally that would be absolutely correct although you could say that the penalty should be that you can't play him until the fee is paid in full.

In this unique case however we have not been able to benefit in any way from the signing of poor Emiliano and because of that uniqueness the EFL should look at how they are applying their rule but with Ridsdale and that former Jack on the EFL board (which in any other business would be a massive conflict of interest) I can see no way they will look favourably on anything to do with Cardiff City.

Having said that, I'd love to know why, having obviously decided to pay the first instalment, the club did not pay it within the 30 day window which would have made this discussion academic.

Another oversight by the club?

Or a deliberate decision not to pay in time?

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 12:44 pm

How much do we owe, and it paid would we come out of the embargo immediately?

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 12:46 pm

davids wrote:The idea behind the ruling would appear to be that a club should not be able to benefit by having a player for whom they have not paid the full transfer fee and normally that would be absolutely correct although you could say that the penalty should be that you can't play him until the fee is paid in full.

In this unique case however we have not been able to benefit in any way from the signing of poor Emiliano and because of that uniqueness the EFL should look at how they are applying their rule but with Ridsdale and that former Jack on the EFL board (which in any other business would be a massive conflict of interest) I can see no way they will look favourably on anything to do with Cardiff City.

Having said that, I'd love to know why, having obviously decided to pay the first instalment, the club did not pay it within the 30 day window which would have made this discussion academic.

Another oversight by the club?

Or a deliberate decision not to pay in time?

I agree; and your last sentence is worthy of asking... :thumbup:

We can't say we weren't warned... :(

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 1:48 pm

I honestly think it was just yet another case of poor management with them nowhere near the club but swanning around London. Choo thinks the politician has done it and vice versa. CHUMPS.

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 5:57 pm

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Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 6:28 pm

So basically they are under an embargo?

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 7:26 pm

What a load of bullshit we will never go into administration.
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Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 7:26 pm

gazthebluebird1 wrote:So basically they are under an embargo?

Yeah

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 7:58 pm

wez1927 wrote:What a load of bullshit we will never go into administration.


Not under this owner anyway wez!
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Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 8:33 pm

wez1927 wrote:
gazthebluebird1 wrote:So basically they are under an embargo?

Yeah



Not an official one.

Wez, funny your the one who has been staying we are not under one weeks abd you were right.

But we’ve been penalised for our Hierarchy ignoring the football regulations and even after warnings of 4 yrs and then told you will have conditions put on you if you don’t sort all this finally out in 30 days , we ignored the lot so we had it coming.

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 10:22 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
gazthebluebird1 wrote:So basically they are under an embargo?

Yeah



Not an official one.

Wez, funny your the one who has been staying we are not under one weeks abd you were right.

But we’ve been penalised for our Hierarchy ignoring the football regulations and even after warnings of 4 yrs and then told you will have conditions put on you if you don’t sort all this finally out in 30 days , we ignored the lot so we had it coming.

If we can't sign players for money as you've said in the op then we are under an embargo ?

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Mon May 15, 2023 11:20 pm

gazthebluebird1 wrote:So basically they are under an embargo?


Looks that way from the info above :( :?

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Tue May 16, 2023 1:48 am

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
gazthebluebird1 wrote:So basically they are under an embargo?

Yeah



Not an official one.

Wez, funny your the one who has been staying we are not under one weeks abd you were right.

But we’ve been penalised for our Hierarchy ignoring the football regulations and even after warnings of 4 yrs and then told you will have conditions put on you if you don’t sort all this finally out in 30 days , we ignored the lot so we had it coming.

If we can't sign players for money as you've said in the op then we are under an embargo ?


Yes Wez we are under some sort of embargo. According to EFL Regulations for Season 2022/23, Section 52.6.
where any Club defaults on payment of any
amounts:for a period of 30 days (whether one default of 30 days, or a number of individual defaults
which when taken together amount to 30 days) or more in any 12 month period (1 July to 30
June) (‘Persistent Default’) then that Club shall not be permitted to pay or commit to pay
any Transfer Fee, Compensation Fee or Loan Fee or any other form of payment (other than a
sell on fee) in respect of the registration of any Player during the period:
(a) commencing on the date on which the Persistent Default occurred; and
(b) ending at the end of the next following Season.

So basically this is why we are not able to pay transfer fee or loan fee until next summer.
Previous embargo has been lifted and was under FIFA, disallowing us to register any players. That was different embargo

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Tue May 16, 2023 2:05 am

Dalman said ages ago "The Sala money is all put to one side"
Errrr yeah clearly that's why we are where we are regarding transfers :roll:

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Tue May 16, 2023 5:16 am

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
gazthebluebird1 wrote:So basically they are under an embargo?

Yeah



Not an official one.

Wez, funny your the one who has been staying we are not under one weeks abd you were right.

But we’ve been penalised for our Hierarchy ignoring the football regulations and even after warnings of 4 yrs and then told you will have conditions put on you if you don’t sort all this finally out in 30 days , we ignored the lot so we had it coming.

If we can't sign players for money as you've said in the op then we are under an embargo ?




Wez,

But I was telling you that when you kept saying we were not.

As we are not on the official site, we would of been able to, but due to the incompetence of your mates the Hierarchy, we are under another type of restriction.




Previous embargo has been lifted and was under FIFA, disallowing us to register any players. That was different embargo.

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Tue May 16, 2023 5:18 am

Bluebird1977 wrote:Dalman said ages ago "The Sala money is all put to one side"
Errrr yeah clearly that's why we are where we are regarding transfers :roll:



Yes he did Ian,

But watch a Wez he will stick up for him. :lol:

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Tue May 16, 2023 5:21 am

RangerRank wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
gazthebluebird1 wrote:So basically they are under an embargo?

Yeah



Not an official one.

Wez, funny your the one who has been staying we are not under one weeks abd you were right.

But we’ve been penalised for our Hierarchy ignoring the football regulations and even after warnings of 4 yrs and then told you will have conditions put on you if you don’t sort all this finally out in 30 days , we ignored the lot so we had it coming.

If we can't sign players for money as you've said in the op then we are under an embargo ?


Yes Wez we are under some sort of embargo. According to EFL Regulations for Season 2022/23, Section 52.6.
where any Club defaults on payment of any
amounts:for a period of 30 days (whether one default of 30 days, or a number of individual defaults
which when taken together amount to 30 days) or more in any 12 month period (1 July to 30
June) (‘Persistent Default’) then that Club shall not be permitted to pay or commit to pay
any Transfer Fee, Compensation Fee or Loan Fee or any other form of payment (other than a
sell on fee) in respect of the registration of any Player during the period:
(a) commencing on the date on which the Persistent Default occurred; and
(b) ending at the end of the next following Season.

So basically this is why we are not able to pay transfer fee or loan fee until next summer.
Previous embargo has been lifted and was under FIFA, disallowing us to register any players. That was different embargo




You’ve put it brilliantly Ranger.

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Tue May 16, 2023 5:44 am

Whatever anyone thinks of Mr Tan it doesn't alter the fact we are being tucked up by The Riddler and that JB here, so even paying up won't help us as to all the ones who know all the rules and regulations need to remember that paying up will not automatically lift any type of embargo or whatever else it gets called.

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Tue May 16, 2023 8:21 am

The point I think Cardiff are arguing with the efl is "special circumstances".
Its not that they couldn't afford too etc. There was a massive shadow over the whole transfer etc.
I'm massively surprised by the EFL take on it and understand why they are fighting it as a club.

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Tue May 16, 2023 9:17 am

bluebird7291 wrote:The point I think Cardiff are arguing with the efl is "special circumstances".
Its not that they couldn't afford too etc. There was a massive shadow over the whole transfer etc.
I'm massively surprised by the EFL take on it and understand why they are fighting it as a club.



That’s the thing we could afford it.

But after 4 yrs and three huge court cases the Hierarchy knew exactly what would happen, then they were given 30 days they ignored again, so we are suffering from it or is this exactly what they want we can’t spend???

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:17 am

But why does the EFL embargo website only list Reading and Wigan?

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:39 am

Einstein wrote:But why does the EFL embargo website only list Reading and Wigan?



Because we don’t belong to that Embargo anymore

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:47 am

As a club that has a woeful history of losing money on nearly all of our transfers , it could be a blessing Lol Loaning in players or free transfers ( Not sure they ever come free thou ) may be the plan of Tan and his puppets. Only time will tell on that one.

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:25 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:Dalman said ages ago "The Sala money is all put to one side"
Errrr yeah clearly that's why we are where we are regarding transfers :roll:



Yes he did Ian,

But watch a Wez he will stick up for him. :lol:


I’m pretty sure at one point the full £15m transfer was put into a separate account and was listed on one of the account reviews, then 2 years later there was no mention of it and has never been mentioned since

Re: Cardiff City are not under a Transfer Embargo / But

Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:04 am

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