Sorry, I just don’t get it ?!!

What is this sudden love in with Dalman ?

We have posters saying they want him to takeover from Tan, some of them and others saying he will be better than Tan because he is a football man ?

Dalman has no more experience in football than Tan, he joined the board in 2012 and became chairman in 2013, I’m not aware of him being at another football club prior to this, please correct me if I’m wrong ? But if I’m right then both he and Tan have the same experience in football, which is a shite experience at best.

As far as I see it, the last two or three years he has virtually walked away from the responsibility of a chairman running a business, whilst at the same time using his banking experience (cos that’s what he is a banker) to invest £30m at an interest rate of 9% which in todays financial climate he wont get anywhere else.

Then to rub our noses in it he has the balls to go public telling everyone his heart wasn’t in it and therefore only gives himself a 5 or 6 out of 10 - Jesus Christ, if Joe Public was only achieving 5/6 out of 10 in their job they probably wouldn’t last the 2 years, not even a year probably.

We nearly got relegated last season and he’s now sweeping in like he is a saviour or something ffs !

If his mate doesn’t do it as a manager in the championship (and bare in mind all managers only have relative short shelf life at any club) then watch him bury his head in the sand again and throw all the blame at Tan,

I hope to god the new manager does get the job done, but the only way I would want Dalman as the owner is if he was to buy Tan out via some sort of consortium/VC and then sell it at a profit a year later, that way the whole poxy regime will be gone.

Rant over, and I hope someone tells me different about Dalman and his footballing experience, or enlightens me on what I’m missing with this recent love in ?

And I’m usually an optimist, but last seasons debacle of a manager merry go round has clearly taken that out of me.

I think everyone sees it the same way. He'd only be involved with a bigger group etc.
I think personally he's just trying to play his cards right.

I think everyone sees it the same way. He'd only be involved with a bigger group etc.
I think personally he's just trying to play his cards right.

Exactly:

No Love in from me, but he was not involved in the Despicable Rebrand or the court cases that’s all the Emperor’s choice.

Plus The Emperor lied to my face.

Would I want him to own us No.

With a good consortium, maybe.

He does know about football more than Tan, even a child does.

I think everyone sees it the same way. He'd only be involved with a bigger group etc.
I think personally he's just trying to play his cards right.

Exactly:

No Love in from me, but he was not involved in the Despicable Rebrand or the court cases that’s all the Emperor’s choice.

Plus The Emperor lied to my face.

Would I want him to own us No.

With a good consortium, maybe.

He does know about football more than Tan, even a child does.

I worry about consortium's. You hear more failed than groups who achieve their goals.
But being realistic that's probably down to the press.

It can go wrong either way. Single owner who wants to do the wrong thing.
And a group pulling in different directions.
Its not easy.

He is the lesser of two evils.

I think everyone sees it the same way. He'd only be involved with a bigger group etc.
I think personally he's just trying to play his cards right.

Exactly:

No Love in from me, but he was not involved in the Despicable Rebrand or the court cases that’s all the Emperor’s choice.

Plus The Emperor lied to my face.

Would I want him to own us No.

With a good consortium, maybe.

He does know about football more than Tan, even a child does.

I worry about consortium's. You hear more failed than groups who achieve their goals.
But being realistic that's probably down to the press.

It can go wrong either way. Single owner who wants to do the wrong thing.
And a group pulling in different directions.
Its not easy.

Not the biggest fan myself, but I just want Tan gone once and for all.

He is the lesser of two evils.

He certainly Is.

But he is Boris in disguise

Well, he's had 10yrs experience now and our game is littered with people who are supposed to be football men but have made dodgy decisions.I think you have to love football as well as being a decent business man whereas Tan was a bussiness man with no particular love for football talked into buying a club without fully appreciating what it takes.There are far worse in football than Dalman in my view and you only have to look at the Riddler to see that you can be a complete kunt and yet make a good career in the game.

He is the lesser of two evils.

He certainly Is.

But he is Boris in disguise

If he replaced Tan as owner I think we would be a better run club for it

I think everyone sees it the same way. He'd only be involved with a bigger group etc.
I think personally he's just trying to play his cards right.

Exactly:

No Love in from me, but he was not involved in the Despicable Rebrand or the court cases that’s all the Emperor’s choice.

Plus The Emperor lied to my face.

Would I want him to own us No.

With a good consortium, maybe.

He does know about football more than Tan, even a child does.

hes your best mate your been inviting him to majorca and drinking with the Friday club in ricks bar .

I think everyone sees it the same way. He'd only be involved with a bigger group etc.
I think personally he's just trying to play his cards right.

Exactly:

No Love in from me, but he was not involved in the Despicable Rebrand or the court cases that’s all the Emperor’s choice.

Plus The Emperor lied to my face.

Would I want him to own us No.

With a good consortium, maybe.

He does know about football more than Tan, even a child does.

hes your best mate your been inviting him to majorca and drinking with the Friday club in ricks bar .

This is Dalmans best mate / But if he wants to come to Ricks bar to tell
Me the truth , No Boris stuff he’s welcome

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Dalmans hands have been tied because he had to do what Tan said,seems to me those hands are breaking free from those shackles for whatever reason.
I know Warnock rated him so he might be ok as the boss.

I think it’s becoming more clear that dalman has had to hold back until now , it must of been so frustrating that he couldn’t do what he thought was best so no wonder he felt like giving up having the nutter as the boss ,
Was it dalman who found kaba ? And lamouchi ?

You make some good and fair points there.

But I don't think many people are saying they actively want Dalman as owner, more than it is the most likely future for our club - and in my personal view, not undesirable.

You point out that he rated himself as a five or six in his press conference. But people always moan he's not being honest and when he is honest, he gets criticised.

I've said many times that he doesn't tell the complete truth, but I actually believed the things he was saying on Monday for the first time in a long time.

He now has more say in what is happening at the club which he is enjoying. I honestly think that is a good thing.

He also made a good point that it's hard to work for a company when there's a single shareholder, and it's not the first time he's done it.

He is clearly re-energised with his work at the club and that should be embraced. I don't think that can be said about Tan or Choo.

Dalman, as others have said, had no part in the rebrand decision. He has strongly disagreed with the decisions that Tan has made. He has made those points to the current owner but not really been listened to until recently.

I also know every manager that we have had has a lot of time for Dalman. He has always been good and helpful to them, even when they've lost their job.

On football knowledge, I don't think anyone is saying that Dalman is a football expert. But he does have a little bit of football knowledge and has some contacts in the game. Neither of which can be said about Tan or Choo.

He also has experience of business within the UK and Europe.

The other thing is Dalman is in favour of having a Director of Football at the club, something which Tan is against. I believe having a DoF is very important.

So, I would not be against the idea of Dalman and a consortium taking over the club in the future. I also believe it's probably the most likely future for us.

I would actually support it if this were to happen.

Same here Worcester. Great Post.

If Dalman takes over eventually and gives us our badge back, then i'll be happier than I am currently under Tan's 1 man band. No love in here for Mehmet but my dislike (other words are available) for Tan and his selfish approach has taken it's toll now

I think everyone sees it the same way. He'd only be involved with a bigger group etc.
I think personally he's just trying to play his cards right.

Exactly:

No Love in from me, but he was not involved in the Despicable Rebrand or the court cases that’s all the Emperor’s choice.

Plus The Emperor lied to my face.

Would I want him to own us No.

With a good consortium, maybe.

He does know about football more than Tan, even a child does.

I agree and I think 'love in' is a bit excessive. I think (just like you and lots of others) that we are finally seeing a fight back from within the corridors of power and thevpossibility of either (a) Vincent Tan seeing the light, or (b) Mehmet Dalman starting a takeover attempt

Either way, it's good for club and supporters going forward...we hope!

The one thing I do agree with in the OP is that Mehmet needs to answer fully for his stated dusappearing act over the last few years...

I never mentioned the rebrand in the OP, But how do you know that Dalman never had anything to do with it ? He joined the club as a director 4 or 5 months prior to the ultimatum of the £100m investment, do you honestly believe the board was not consulted ? Of course they were.

He then suggests OGS, look how that turned out, yet people suggests he knows football ?

What worthwhile thing has he done as a chairman for Cardiff City ?

The only thing currently I can think of is the alleged £30m investment, which he gets a very handsome return on.

Perhaps love in was a bit strong as Sven said, let’s dumb it down then, there seems to be a lot more SUPPORT for him this last few days than ever, why ? He’s just told us he has done sod all for a few years (i suggest 10)

He supports the idea of DOF, its spin, he’s a politician.

Tan’s Mum done more for this club in one conversation with Tan than Dalman has in 10 years, or am i wrong ?

The reason why all ex managers speak highly of him is due to his spin, he probably tells them its not me its Tan, sorry ringing in their ears as he waves them out of the car park.

I never mentioned the rebrand in the OP, But how do you know that Dalman never had anything to do with it ? He joined the club as a director 4 or 5 months prior to the ultimatum of the £100m investment, do you honestly believe the board was not consulted ? Of course they were.

He then suggests OGS, look how that turned out, yet people suggests he knows football ?

What worthwhile thing has he done as a chairman for Cardiff City ?

The only thing currently I can think of is the alleged £30m investment, which he gets a very handsome return on.

Perhaps love in was a bit strong as Sven said, let’s dumb it down then, there seems to be a lot more SUPPORT for him this last few days than ever, why ? He’s just told us he has done sod all for a few years (i suggest 10)

He supports the idea of DOF, its spin, he’s a politician.

Tan’s Mum done more for this club in one conversation with Tan than Dalman has in 10 years, or am i wrong ?

The reason why all ex managers speak highly of him is due to his spin, he probably tells them its not me its Tan, sorry ringing in their ears as he waves them out of the car park.

Sounds to me you're just looking for a reason to not support him. You've read a few quotes out of context and just used that as ammunition. That's what it looks like anyway.

I stand by everything I put in my post.

He is not Tan, he's not anything like him.

By the way on OGS, it was a bad decision. But every club makes a few bad decisions. But there were other clubs looking at OGS, it wasn't just us. The fact of this seems to have got lost because it didn't work out.

I never mentioned the rebrand in the OP, But how do you know that Dalman never had anything to do with it ? He joined the club as a director 4 or 5 months prior to the ultimatum of the £100m investment, do you honestly believe the board was not consulted ? Of course they were.

He then suggests OGS, look how that turned out, yet people suggests he knows football ?

What worthwhile thing has he done as a chairman for Cardiff City ?

The only thing currently I can think of is the alleged £30m investment, which he gets a very handsome return on.

Perhaps love in was a bit strong as Sven said, let’s dumb it down then, there seems to be a lot more SUPPORT for him this last few days than ever, why ? He’s just told us he has done sod all for a few years (i suggest 10)

He supports the idea of DOF, its spin, he’s a politician.

Tan’s Mum done more for this club in one conversation with Tan than Dalman has in 10 years, or am i wrong ?

The reason why all ex managers speak highly of him is due to his spin, he probably tells them its not me its Tan, sorry ringing in their ears as he waves them out of the car park.

Are you serious , are you really a Cardiff fan?

Dalman was not the Chairman till 2013, when the despicable rebrand was brought in was 2012 Simon Lim was Chairman

Dalman was at NO meetings , I attended everyone with Chairman, CEO , Secretary, Dalman was associated with us but in NO real authority or say.


I now can’t be bothered to read anymore of your posts

I realise this topic is wind up and digs at our fans.

Was literally just going to post that I was pretty sure dalman wasn't chairman in 2012

Was literally just going to post that I was pretty sure dalman wasn't chairman in 2012

Exactly that’s why this topic is a wind up

I never mentioned the rebrand in the OP, But how do you know that Dalman never had anything to do with it ? He joined the club as a director 4 or 5 months prior to the ultimatum of the £100m investment, do you honestly believe the board was not consulted ? Of course they were.

He then suggests OGS, look how that turned out, yet people suggests he knows football ?

What worthwhile thing has he done as a chairman for Cardiff City ?

The only thing currently I can think of is the alleged £30m investment, which he gets a very handsome return on.

Perhaps love in was a bit strong as Sven said, let’s dumb it down then, there seems to be a lot more SUPPORT for him this last few days than ever, why ? He’s just told us he has done sod all for a few years (i suggest 10)

He supports the idea of DOF, its spin, he’s a politician.

Tan’s Mum done more for this club in one conversation with Tan than Dalman has in 10 years, or am i wrong ?

The reason why all ex managers speak highly of him is due to his spin, he probably tells them its not me its Tan, sorry ringing in their ears as he waves them out of the car park.

Are you serious , are you really a Cardiff fan?

Dalman was not the Chairman till 2013, when the despicable rebrand was brought in was 2012 Simon Lim was Chairman

Dalman was at NO meetings , I attended everyone with Chairman, CEO , Secretary, Dalman was associated with us but in NO real authority or say.


I now can’t be bothered to read anymore of your posts

I realise this topic is wind up and digs at our fans.

Annis, you know I’m a fan ffs

Dalman joined the board in 2012, and was made chairman a year or so later, I did say in my post that he was director in 2012 I didn’t say chairman in 2012, everyone says he had nothing to do with the rebrand, but how do they know ? You have said yourself he’s a politician.

It’s not a wind up, I just don’t get what he has done for us in the capacity he is in, taking the salary he is taking when he openly admits he hasn’t been doing his job, well half of it anyway, that’s the bit that has got me riled up.

I dont know how much the guy earns from city but i bet its 6 figures annually, and he admits he has only been what, 50% effective, yet still takes the money, am i the only one that thinks that is a piss take ?

Can we not remember last season, how can we make 4 big mistakes with 4 managers in one season, which nearly cost us relegation, both Tan and Dalman need to go imo asap.

You make some good and fair points there.

But I don't think many people are saying they actively want Dalman as owner, more than it is the most likely future for our club - and in my personal view, not undesirable.

You point out that he rated himself as a five or six in his press conference. But people always moan he's not being honest and when he is honest, he gets criticised.

I've said many times that he doesn't tell the complete truth, but I actually believed the things he was saying on Monday for the first time in a long time.

He now has more say in what is happening at the club which he is enjoying. I honestly think that is a good thing.

He also made a good point that it's hard to work for a company when there's a single shareholder, and it's not the first time he's done it.

He is clearly re-energised with his work at the club and that should be embraced. I don't think that can be said about Tan or Choo.

Dalman, as others have said, had no part in the rebrand decision. He has strongly disagreed with the decisions that Tan has made. He has made those points to the current owner but not really been listened to until recently.

I also know every manager that we have had has a lot of time for Dalman. He has always been good and helpful to them, even when they've lost their job.

On football knowledge, I don't think anyone is saying that Dalman is a football expert. But he does have a little bit of football knowledge and has some contacts in the game. Neither of which can be said about Tan or Choo.

He also has experience of business within the UK and Europe.

The other thing is Dalman is in favour of having a Director of Football at the club, something which Tan is against. I believe having a DoF is very important.

So, I would not be against the idea of Dalman and a consortium taking over the club in the future. I also believe it's probably the most likely future for us.

I would actually support it if this were to happen.

Great post which i totally agree with. If you read between the lines when Dalman said he had given up, to me it's obvious that he was saying he did not want Harris, Morisson or Hudson as manager, did not agree with many of the players who came in over the last two years, wanted to keep Sabri and probably advised Tan to pay the Sala money and then go after Nantes through private courts. Now because of his increasing investment in the club he is now flexing his muscles and for me it's refreshing. Finally Neil Warnock has always said Dalman is the best chairman that he has worked for, that's good enough for

I never mentioned the rebrand in the OP, But how do you know that Dalman never had anything to do with it ? He joined the club as a director 4 or 5 months prior to the ultimatum of the £100m investment, do you honestly believe the board was not consulted ? Of course they were.

He then suggests OGS, look how that turned out, yet people suggests he knows football ?

What worthwhile thing has he done as a chairman for Cardiff City ?

The only thing currently I can think of is the alleged £30m investment, which he gets a very handsome return on.

Perhaps love in was a bit strong as Sven said, let’s dumb it down then, there seems to be a lot more SUPPORT for him this last few days than ever, why ? He’s just told us he has done sod all for a few years (i suggest 10)

He supports the idea of DOF, its spin, he’s a politician.

Tan’s Mum done more for this club in one conversation with Tan than Dalman has in 10 years, or am i wrong ?

The reason why all ex managers speak highly of him is due to his spin, he probably tells them its not me its Tan, sorry ringing in their ears as he waves them out of the car park.

You can’t use OGS against him. at the time of the appointment he was one of the most highly rated young coaches in Europe, I’m pretty sure most people were on board with him when he took over too as he talked a good game, and seemingly with Man Utd development and Molde had backed up his talk.

In hindsight it didn’t work out, but even looking more recently like when he took over at Man Utd and ended the Jose rot he clearly showed something about himself as a motivator

You make some good and fair points there.

But I don't think many people are saying they actively want Dalman as owner, more than it is the most likely future for our club - and in my personal view, not undesirable.

You point out that he rated himself as a five or six in his press conference. But people always moan he's not being honest and when he is honest, he gets criticised.

I've said many times that he doesn't tell the complete truth, but I actually believed the things he was saying on Monday for the first time in a long time.

He now has more say in what is happening at the club which he is enjoying. I honestly think that is a good thing.

He also made a good point that it's hard to work for a company when there's a single shareholder, and it's not the first time he's done it.

He is clearly re-energised with his work at the club and that should be embraced. I don't think that can be said about Tan or Choo.

Dalman, as others have said, had no part in the rebrand decision. He has strongly disagreed with the decisions that Tan has made. He has made those points to the current owner but not really been listened to until recently.

I also know every manager that we have had has a lot of time for Dalman. He has always been good and helpful to them, even when they've lost their job.

On football knowledge, I don't think anyone is saying that Dalman is a football expert. But he does have a little bit of football knowledge and has some contacts in the game. Neither of which can be said about Tan or Choo.

He also has experience of business within the UK and Europe.

The other thing is Dalman is in favour of having a Director of Football at the club, something which Tan is against. I believe having a DoF is very important.

So, I would not be against the idea of Dalman and a consortium taking over the club in the future. I also believe it's probably the most likely future for us.

I would actually support it if this were to happen.

Great post which i totally agree with. If you read between the lines when Dalman said he had given up, to me it's obvious that he was saying he did not want Harris, Morisson or Hudson as manager, did not agree with many of the players who came in over the last two years, wanted to keep Sabri and probably advised Tan to pay the Sala money and then go after Nantes through private courts. Now because of his increasing investment in the club he is now flexing his muscles and for me it's refreshing. Finally Neil Warnock has always said Dalman is the best chairman that he has worked for, that's good enough for

Exactly 100 percent bang on

I never mentioned the rebrand in the OP, But how do you know that Dalman never had anything to do with it ? He joined the club as a director 4 or 5 months prior to the ultimatum of the £100m investment, do you honestly believe the board was not consulted ? Of course they were.

He then suggests OGS, look how that turned out, yet people suggests he knows football ?

What worthwhile thing has he done as a chairman for Cardiff City ?

The only thing currently I can think of is the alleged £30m investment, which he gets a very handsome return on.

Perhaps love in was a bit strong as Sven said, let’s dumb it down then, there seems to be a lot more SUPPORT for him this last few days than ever, why ? He’s just told us he has done sod all for a few years (i suggest 10)

He supports the idea of DOF, its spin, he’s a politician.

Tan’s Mum done more for this club in one conversation with Tan than Dalman has in 10 years, or am i wrong ?

The reason why all ex managers speak highly of him is due to his spin, he probably tells them its not me its Tan, sorry ringing in their ears as he waves them out of the car park.

Are you serious , are you really a Cardiff fan?

Dalman was not the Chairman till 2013, when the despicable rebrand was brought in was 2012 Simon Lim was Chairman

Dalman was at NO meetings , I attended everyone with Chairman, CEO , Secretary, Dalman was associated with us but in NO real authority or say.


I now can’t be bothered to read anymore of your posts

I realise this topic is wind up and digs at our fans.

Annis, you know I’m a fan ffs

Dalman joined the board in 2012, and was made chairman a year or so later, I did say in my post that he was director in 2012 I didn’t say chairman in 2012, everyone says he had nothing to do with the rebrand, but how do they know ? You have said yourself he’s a politician.

It’s not a wind up, I just don’t get what he has done for us in the capacity he is in, taking the salary he is taking when he openly admits he hasn’t been doing his job, well half of it anyway, that’s the bit that has got me riled up.

I dont know how much the guy earns from city but i bet its 6 figures annually, and he admits he has only been what, 50% effective, yet still takes the money, am i the only one that thinks that is a piss take ?

Can we not remember last season, how can we make 4 big mistakes with 4 managers in one season, which nearly cost us relegation, both Tan and Dalman need to go imo asap.

I am only joking about not being a fan.

But seriously he had nothing to do with the rebrand at all.

But No I am not a big fan of his.


Don’t forget those 4 managers were all Tans appointments and Dalman has said everything that’s been happening has all been Tan and that he has taken a backwards step.

Do I think Dalman is good for our club, NO , but better than Tan.

Annis I think he will be good for us due to him being in a consortium which will mean other voices get a say, not this one man one decision shite.
PS. He wants a DoF which we have all been calling for.

Annis I think he will be good for us due to him being in a consortium which will mean other voices get a say, not this one man one decision shite.
PS. He wants a DoF which we have all been calling for.

Jules,

I have to agree our club has been dictated to now for 14 yrs and he never accepts he keeps screwing up.

We need a proper board / consortium.

He is creepy and dodgy and a politician type person.
He has his hands in many pies at CCFC .
For someone in his position to be honest and say he was only giving 5 or 6 out of ten.
Well i think it was less than that and not just him all of them.

I think he has somehow got his own way with the new manager and he wants to work hard with him as its his man now .
Issue how long before Tan steps in takes over and knocks Dalmans noise out of joint again.
Its only a matter of time he cant leave things alone .
Then you have dalman earning all that interest from Ccfc.
All this and they want to push near the top .

To do this they all need to work together but i dont see that at all its the opposite its like right youve had your turn now its mine .
Each man wanted the other to fail to have the upper hand.
I dont no thats what i see .
I just hope it all works out but it will take a miracle in my eyes .
Tan just cant leave things alone.