Dalman to take over?

This is going to be a "what if" and "maybe" post but it's something I thought of recently.

A few people have pointed out on here that Dalman is getting "braver" (for want of a better word) when talking about Tan. He's been putting a few comments out that most of us certainly wouldn't publicly say about our employer which has given some the idea he is looking to take over from Tan or buy the club himself.

Dalman seems excited for the upcoming season and about the appointment of Bulut. Excitement we've not really seen before from him or anyone at the club as they usually keep themselves to themselves.

Well what if Dalman really is going to be taking over?
That would explain the "comments" and the excitement from him seeing as he's also got his choice of manager in Bulut.

If we win the embargo appeal I can see Dalman putting up the money for transfers himself and/or buying the club off Tan at a discount price (due to the money owed to him) and us having a really good go this season. Why else would we be fighting the embargo if we aren't looking to spend money this season?

He wanted in at Charlton so why not go all in here at Cardiff

Digesting all the stuff he has put out I came to the conclusion he has been as much disillusioned with Tan as any of us anti-Tan bods amongst us.

Let be brutal here but Tan is one of those hard work bosses to work for. An individual who is so stubborn that it takes a disaster for him to listen. He returned us back to because he knew it was a disaster and there was a serious danger of the support deserting the club while we remained Red. Now the club is in its worse position since we came up and it looks like its not going to get better even a stubborn piece of s**t like him must realise he is crap at this ownership of a football club. Yet it took someone with £30m for him to finally listen.

So is Dalman looking at taking ownership? I don't think so. Remember he has known Tan for a long time and the last thing he wants is for Tan to lose face. I believe Dalman's aim is to get us back t where we were when he came on board then go from there. I just hope Tan keeps his smiling assassin face away from proceedings. Now if Dalman can get us back to where we were, well that is another subject.

Ive never been a great fan of MD, and felt he came as a 'package' with VT.

What I noticed is that the MD under the thumb of VT is one type of animal. MD fighting back against VT, does seem to know about football, and appears a different beast all together.

I would much rather a Sam Hammam figure stepped in. Steeped on football knowledge, successful and like a bottle of pop in terms of energy and desire for this club. A takeover by SH is not going to happen, but could MD and SH work together...?

Just a point for discussion?

Perhaps the sala case in the French courts will be a defining moment for his ownership.

Ive never been a great fan of MD, and felt he came as a 'package' with VT.

What I noticed is that the MD under the thumb of VT is one type of animal. MD fighting back against VT, does seem to know about football, and appears a different beast all together.

I would much rather a Sam Hammam figure stepped in. Steeped on football knowledge, successful and like a bottle of pop in terms of energy and desire for this club. A takeover by SH is not going to happen, but could MD and SH work together...?

Just a point for discussion?

Forget Dalman and Hamman combination.

I felt that Hamman was in a strong position to buy out Tan. The last person Tan wanted to sell to was him but it was getting close. Then Dalman out of the blue offers to fund the club to the tune of £30m therefore taking the pressure of Tan to sell to Sam. This is why I believe Dalman is now speaking out.

Another potential clue?

Berjaya has been taken OFF the front of our shirts. We have gone back to 'Visit Malaysia'

It's quite simple unless Dalman brings an outside investor on board he hasn't got the money to buy us , when he was going to buy Charlton it was a overall 30 million pound deal so that's all he's got.

Ive never been a great fan of MD, and felt he came as a 'package' with VT.

What I noticed is that the MD under the thumb of VT is one type of animal. MD fighting back against VT, does seem to know about football, and appears a different beast all together.

I would much rather a Sam Hammam figure stepped in. Steeped on football knowledge, successful and like a bottle of pop in terms of energy and desire for this club. A takeover by SH is not going to happen, but could MD and SH work together...?

Just a point for discussion?

Forget Dalman and Hamman combination.

I felt that Hamman was in a strong position to buy out Tan. The last person Tan wanted to sell to was him but it was getting close. Then Dalman out of the blue offers to fund the club to the tune of £30m therefore taking the pressure of Tan to sell to Sam. This is why I believe Dalman is now speaking out.

Over 5 years ago in 2018 dalman invested money into us so it's not out of the blue that he's been a little more involved.

Ive never been a great fan of MD, and felt he came as a 'package' with VT.

What I noticed is that the MD under the thumb of VT is one type of animal. MD fighting back against VT, does seem to know about football, and appears a different beast all together.

I would much rather a Sam Hammam figure stepped in. Steeped on football knowledge, successful and like a bottle of pop in terms of energy and desire for this club. A takeover by SH is not going to happen, but could MD and SH work together...?

Just a point for discussion?

Forget Dalman and Hamman combination.

I felt that Hamman was in a strong position to buy out Tan. The last person Tan wanted to sell to was him but it was getting close. Then Dalman out of the blue offers to fund the club to the tune of £30m therefore taking the pressure of Tan to sell to Sam. This is why I believe Dalman is now speaking out.

Over 5 years ago in 2018 dalman invested money into us so it's not out of the blue that he's been a little more involved.

How much?

I've thought for a long time that MD is playing the long game, he's now into us for £30m so obviously sees our potential plus he was in for a Charlton so has ambitions to own a club. He may be waiting for the right time to buy outright and would bring others in, I understand the £30m is not solely from him but his finance firm fronts it. I think he knows that eventually VT will have to lower his selling price as we won't be in the PL anytime soon whist he still calls the shots and then he steps in. VT is selling off his football portfolio so one way or the other , his time is essentially over here.

MD not a football man by any measure, he knows more than VT for sure but so does my mum and if he did take over at some stage, he would have to bring in somebody proven to run the show and take a back seat. VT could also do this if he dropped his stubbornness and this would be the best option he has to make his money back and sell.

I agree with Barclay, Sam Hammam would be perfect for this as he's got the track record, understands football and the club but VTs stubbornness is his downfall, in football anyway.

I've thought for a long time that MD is playing the long game, he's now into us for £30m so obviously sees our potential plus he was in for a Charlton so has ambitions to own a club. He may be waiting for the right time to buy outright and would bring others in, I understand the £30m is not solely from him but his finance firm fronts it. I think he knows that eventually VT will have to lower his selling price as we won't be in the PL anytime soon whist he still calls the shots and then he steps in. VT is selling off his football portfolio so one way or the other , his time is essentially over here.

MD not a football man by any measure, he knows more than VT for sure but so does my mum and if he did take over at some stage, he would have to bring in somebody proven to run the show and take a back seat. VT could also do this if he dropped his stubbornness and this would be the best option he has to make his money back and sell.

I agree with Barclay, Sam Hammam would be perfect for this as he's got the track record, understands football and the club but VTs stubbornness is his downfall, in football anyway.

What is a football man tho ? , dalman now into 20 years of being around football finance

Sorry Wez...but you are beginning to sound like Thomasblue......Dalman is not what i call a football man, he s maybe a wannabe .
He first came to light brokering the deal for the Glaziers to buy United.
He s hardly here that much mostly Monaco or London.
Would you call Choo or TAN football men I certainly wouldn t.
Tan s in Malaysia and Choo runs a HR OWEN in London for Tan

If they were football men the club would possibly run a lot better

Football men are those live and breathe football who don6t care about the fans

sorry it posted without me finishing.
If they were football men they would here conversing with fans, not going annonymous for months on end. They would be around the club but for me they haven t got a clue.
Just my opinion

I've thought for a long time that MD is playing the long game, he's now into us for £30m so obviously sees our potential plus he was in for a Charlton so has ambitions to own a club. He may be waiting for the right time to buy outright and would bring others in, I understand the £30m is not solely from him but his finance firm fronts it. I think he knows that eventually VT will have to lower his selling price as we won't be in the PL anytime soon whist he still calls the shots and then he steps in. VT is selling off his football portfolio so one way or the other , his time is essentially over here.

MD not a football man by any measure, he knows more than VT for sure but so does my mum and if he did take over at some stage, he would have to bring in somebody proven to run the show and take a back seat. VT could also do this if he dropped his stubbornness and this would be the best option he has to make his money back and sell.

I agree with Barclay, Sam Hammam would be perfect for this as he's got the track record, understands football and the club but VTs stubbornness is his downfall, in football anyway.

What is a football man tho ? , dalman now into 20 years of being around football finance

Dalman is an investment banker with an interest in football, so a football financier at best and not one to make footballing decisions, such as selecting a manager or even players. He has even recently admitted that they need football expertise at board level, something that has been blatantly obvious for years, which proves he's not that man.

Sam Hammam is an example of a man who truly knows and understands the business of football and extending right down through managers, players and the fans. VT and MD should swallow their pride and let him run the show, it's a cold business decision that would give them the best chance of recouping their money (in VTs case) or if MD buys, the best chance of a proper crack at the PL in the shortest time and building on that when we get there.

I've thought for a long time that MD is playing the long game, he's now into us for £30m so obviously sees our potential plus he was in for a Charlton so has ambitions to own a club. He may be waiting for the right time to buy outright and would bring others in, I understand the £30m is not solely from him but his finance firm fronts it. I think he knows that eventually VT will have to lower his selling price as we won't be in the PL anytime soon whist he still calls the shots and then he steps in. VT is selling off his football portfolio so one way or the other , his time is essentially over here.

MD not a football man by any measure, he knows more than VT for sure but so does my mum and if he did take over at some stage, he would have to bring in somebody proven to run the show and take a back seat. VT could also do this if he dropped his stubbornness and this would be the best option he has to make his money back and sell.

I agree with Barclay, Sam Hammam would be perfect for this as he's got the track record, understands football and the club but VTs stubbornness is his downfall, in football anyway.

What is a football man tho ? , dalman now into 20 years of being around football finance

Dalman is an investment banker with an interest in football, so a football financier at best and not one to make footballing decisions, such as selecting a manager or even players. He has even recently admitted that they need football expertise at board level, something that has been blatantly obvious for years, which proves he's not that man.

Sam Hammam is an example of a man who truly knows and understands the business of football and extending right down through managers, players and the fans. VT and MD should swallow their pride and let him run the show, it's a cold business decision that would give them the best chance of recouping their money (in VTs case) or if MD buys, the best chance of a proper crack at the PL in the shortest time and building on that when we get there.

This ownership of tan and dalman have been to the prem twice something our previous owners couldn't do .

I've thought for a long time that MD is playing the long game, he's now into us for £30m so obviously sees our potential plus he was in for a Charlton so has ambitions to own a club. He may be waiting for the right time to buy outright and would bring others in, I understand the £30m is not solely from him but his finance firm fronts it. I think he knows that eventually VT will have to lower his selling price as we won't be in the PL anytime soon whist he still calls the shots and then he steps in. VT is selling off his football portfolio so one way or the other , his time is essentially over here.

MD not a football man by any measure, he knows more than VT for sure but so does my mum and if he did take over at some stage, he would have to bring in somebody proven to run the show and take a back seat. VT could also do this if he dropped his stubbornness and this would be the best option he has to make his money back and sell.

I agree with Barclay, Sam Hammam would be perfect for this as he's got the track record, understands football and the club but VTs stubbornness is his downfall, in football anyway.

What is a football man tho ? , dalman now into 20 years of being around football finance

Dalman is an investment banker with an interest in football, so a football financier at best and not one to make footballing decisions, such as selecting a manager or even players. He has even recently admitted that they need football expertise at board level, something that has been blatantly obvious for years, which proves he's not that man.

Sam Hammam is an example of a man who truly knows and understands the business of football and extending right down through managers, players and the fans. VT and MD should swallow their pride and let him run the show, it's a cold business decision that would give them the best chance of recouping their money (in VTs case) or if MD buys, the best chance of a proper crack at the PL in the shortest time and building on that when we get there.

This ownership of tan and dalman have been to the prem twice something our previous owners couldn't do .

That they did Wez. The first time we should have stayed there but then VT sacked Malky for personal differences.

The second time we simply got lucky with NW, an appointment that only happened as we were yet again firefighting against relegation through poor decisions from MD and VT. There is no expertise, experience and I believe the trend will continue, I hope I'm proved wrong of course.

Be it VT or if MD makes a play, both need someone who is experienced to run the show, their funds and someone in to take care of the whole football operation so they get the return on investment that an established PL club will bring and I can only think realistically of one person who can do that in the current scenario, who knows the club well and still has the ambition to do it.

Dave Jones should have been made DoF immediately.

I've thought for a long time that MD is playing the long game, he's now into us for £30m so obviously sees our potential plus he was in for a Charlton so has ambitions to own a club. He may be waiting for the right time to buy outright and would bring others in, I understand the £30m is not solely from him but his finance firm fronts it. I think he knows that eventually VT will have to lower his selling price as we won't be in the PL anytime soon whist he still calls the shots and then he steps in. VT is selling off his football portfolio so one way or the other , his time is essentially over here.

MD not a football man by any measure, he knows more than VT for sure but so does my mum and if he did take over at some stage, he would have to bring in somebody proven to run the show and take a back seat. VT could also do this if he dropped his stubbornness and this would be the best option he has to make his money back and sell.

I agree with Barclay, Sam Hammam would be perfect for this as he's got the track record, understands football and the club but VTs stubbornness is his downfall, in football anyway.

What is a football man tho ? , dalman now into 20 years of being around football finance

Dalman is an investment banker with an interest in football, so a football financier at best and not one to make footballing decisions, such as selecting a manager or even players. He has even recently admitted that they need football expertise at board level, something that has been blatantly obvious for years, which proves he's not that man.

Sam Hammam is an example of a man who truly knows and understands the business of football and extending right down through managers, players and the fans. VT and MD should swallow their pride and let him run the show, it's a cold business decision that would give them the best chance of recouping their money (in VTs case) or if MD buys, the best chance of a proper crack at the PL in the shortest time and building on that when we get there.

This ownership of tan and dalman have been to the prem twice something our previous owners couldn't do .

You know when the pro Tan brigade are getting desperate.

Our previous owner never got us relegated unlike this present ownership.

Our previous owner took us to the verge of the Premier from the Dungeon league while our present ownership is taking us back down.

Wez when the penny finally drops with you, I feel it has but you are allowing the Troll inside you to run proceeding, and you decide to leave the Pro Tan room please turn the lights off and close the door behind you as you are the only one left in there.

I've thought for a long time that MD is playing the long game, he's now into us for £30m so obviously sees our potential plus he was in for a Charlton so has ambitions to own a club. He may be waiting for the right time to buy outright and would bring others in, I understand the £30m is not solely from him but his finance firm fronts it. I think he knows that eventually VT will have to lower his selling price as we won't be in the PL anytime soon whist he still calls the shots and then he steps in. VT is selling off his football portfolio so one way or the other , his time is essentially over here.

MD not a football man by any measure, he knows more than VT for sure but so does my mum and if he did take over at some stage, he would have to bring in somebody proven to run the show and take a back seat. VT could also do this if he dropped his stubbornness and this would be the best option he has to make his money back and sell.

I agree with Barclay, Sam Hammam would be perfect for this as he's got the track record, understands football and the club but VTs stubbornness is his downfall, in football anyway.

What is a football man tho ? , dalman now into 20 years of being around football finance

Dalman is an investment banker with an interest in football, so a football financier at best and not one to make footballing decisions, such as selecting a manager or even players. He has even recently admitted that they need football expertise at board level, something that has been blatantly obvious for years, which proves he's not that man.

Sam Hammam is an example of a man who truly knows and understands the business of football and extending right down through managers, players and the fans. VT and MD should swallow their pride and let him run the show, it's a cold business decision that would give them the best chance of recouping their money (in VTs case) or if MD buys, the best chance of a proper crack at the PL in the shortest time and building on that when we get there.

This ownership of tan and dalman have been to the prem twice something our previous owners couldn't do .

You know when the pro Tan brigade are getting desperate.

Our previous owner never got us relegated unlike this present ownership.

Our previous owner took us to the verge of the Premier from the Dungeon league while our present ownership is taking us back down.

Wez when the penny finally drops with you, I feel it has but you are allowing the Troll inside you to run proceeding, and you decide to leave the Pro Tan room please turn the lights off and close the door behind you as you are the only one left in there.

Good one hahahahaha