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CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:04 am

We've already served one

Cardiff City will In addition to the fee restriction for two windows, the Club will also make a payment toward the EFL’s legal costs and arbitrators’ fees.


CARDIFF CITY FC:

cardiffcityfc Following dealings between the legal
representatives of Cardiff City Football Club and the EFL,
we can confirm:

The three-window fee restriction, previously in place, has been reduced to a two-window fee restriction. Cardiff City
Football Club has already served a one-window fee restriction in January 2023. It will therefore be eligible to
pay fees once again for transfers during the January
2024 transfer window.

The Club's Summer 2023 player recruitment plan has
already been prepared for some time with this potential
ruling in mind

Cardiff City Football Club are extremely pleased with this
decision, which recognises the exceptional set of
circumstances the Club finds itself in.

We'd like to take this opportunity to thank Capital Law for
their support throughout this process.
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Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:08 am

Not perfect but better than nothing I suppose

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:11 am

Kav's Free Kick wrote:Not perfect but better than nothing I suppose

I agree better than nothing.

We should never have let ourselves get in that position in the first place.

More heavy costs have occurred.

The good news is, we can strengthen next January properly.
So if going for promotion or trying to stay up, We can look forward to January.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:12 am

Result, though I personally was hoping to get off completely.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:13 am

Surely it puts us in a much better position for buy now, pay later. Loan until January etc..

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:14 am

Excellent news. We can sign players now and structure the payment so we pay in January. Always a way. Another reason to remain optimistic for the season ahead.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:15 am

ccfcblue1980 wrote:Surely it puts us in a much better position for buy now, pay later. Loan until January etc..

Good point. Fingers crossed!

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:17 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Kav's Free Kick wrote:Not perfect but better than nothing I suppose

I agree better than nothing.

We should never have let ourselves get in that position in the first place.

More heavy costs have occurred.

The good news is, we can strengthen next January properly.
So if going for promotion or trying to stay up, We can look forward to January.

Annis, with any luck, this will help Erol's agent work some magic. Surely there will be more ways around bringing players in than we had yesterday?

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:22 am

Still £100sMillion in debt though, aren't we? What's the plan for that?

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:25 am

Kav's Free Kick wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Kav's Free Kick wrote:Not perfect but better than nothing I suppose

I agree better than nothing.

We should never have let ourselves get in that position in the first place.

More heavy costs have occurred.

The good news is, we can strengthen next January properly.
So if going for promotion or trying to stay up, We can look forward to January.

Annis, with any luck, this will help Erol's agent work some magic. Surely there will be more ways around bringing players in than we had yesterday?

I think we will get around things easier now :bluebird:

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:31 am

I’d imagine we will start to see some signings coming in the next few days, we’ll reading into what the statement says about transfer plans being set.

Really good news and exactly what’s been said was my first thought, loan with a deal in place for January! Let’s hope there’s a bit more of a budget now

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:37 am

Good news for a change, I know we shouldn't have been there in the first place but that's gone.
loans with option to buy now open to us.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:39 am

Llantwit Blue wrote:Excellent news. We can sign players now and structure the payment so we pay in January. Always a way. Another reason to remain optimistic for the season ahead.

I hope your right but the EFL and Ridsdale will be watching us like hawks for any sign of sharp practice and slap another ban or worse on us as punishment if found guilty.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:44 am

There seems to be a rather telling line in that statement......

"The Club's Summer 2023 player recruitment plan has
already been prepared for some time with this potential
ruling in mind
".


Clubs won't like players going out on loan within their last year of a contract but a loan with a fee in January is much more palatable.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:55 am

Really good news this, loan now obligation to buy in January. Now let's get some signings through the door

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:16 am

Is a signed commitment so buy a loaned played once the sanctions have been removed above board or likely to land the club in hot water again ?

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:22 am

GrangeEndStar wrote:
Llantwit Blue wrote:Excellent news. We can sign players now and structure the payment so we pay in January. Always a way. Another reason to remain optimistic for the season ahead.


I hope your right but the EFL and Ridsdale will be watching us like hawks for any sign of sharp practice and slap another ban or worse on us as punishment if found guilty.

Ridsdale an expert on "sharp practice".

Like telling fans that their season ticket money will be used to buy players and then using it to pay the taxman.

The fact that he retains a position of power within the EFL tells you all you need to know about that organisation.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:40 am

This is a brilliant result for us.

As others have said, gives us a better chance of getting round the restrictions to sign better players this summer with fees able to be paid in January.

This is the probably the best result we could have hoped for so the club will rightly be very pleased.

We will see transfer movement now.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:10 pm

MoodyBluebird wrote:Is a signed commitment so buy a loaned played once the sanctions have been removed above board or likely to land the club in hot water again ?

I would have said yes when the only option was to loan and near enough commit to buy in, what would basically be the following season.

However, now the whole deal can be done within the same season and while the player was still in contract.

I think this happens quite often anyway as players in the last year of their contract can seek out other clubs when in the last 6 months of a contract i.e. January

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:25 pm

How many loan players are we allowed at any one time?

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:05 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:How many loan players are we allowed at any one time?

Paul, it’s 4 :thumbup:

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:23 pm

Cheers Annis.

That could be a little bit restrictive but as you say there are ways and means of working with this.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:55 pm

Wayne S wrote:There seems to be a rather telling line in that statement......

"The Club's Summer 2023 player recruitment plan has
already been prepared for some time with this potential
ruling in mind
".


Clubs won't like players going out on loan within their last year of a contract but a loan with a fee in January is much more palatable.

Agree loan with mandatory buy in January.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:02 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:There seems to be a rather telling line in that statement......

"The Club's Summer 2023 player recruitment plan has
already been prepared for some time with this potential
ruling in mind
".


Clubs won't like players going out on loan within their last year of a contract but a loan with a fee in January is much more palatable.

Agree loan with mandatory buy in January.


But, based on what Annis has said, we can only have four players on loan with a view to purchase in January.

We need a lot more than 4 players??

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:03 pm

Don't want to piss on anyone's chips but I seem to recall that the embargo meant that not only could we not pay a fee for a player but we could also not "Commit to pay a fee" either which if correct would scupper any chance of us loaning a player now
and paying for them in January.

Glad to be proven wrong if anyone can clarify but it looks to me that we're no better off now than we were in January.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:10 pm

davids wrote:Don't want to piss on anyone's chips but I seem to recall that the embargo meant that not only could we not pay a fee for a player but we could also not "Commit to pay a fee" either which if correct would scupper any chance of us loaning a player now
and paying for them in January.

Glad to be proven wrong if anyone can clarify but it looks to me that we're no better off now than we were in January.


EFL can't stop us doing certain things.

That includes, for example, loaning a player from now until January with an obligation to buy for an agreed price when the window opens in January.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:22 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
davids wrote:Don't want to piss on anyone's chips but I seem to recall that the embargo meant that not only could we not pay a fee for a player but we could also not "Commit to pay a fee" either which if correct would scupper any chance of us loaning a player now
and paying for them in January.

Glad to be proven wrong if anyone can clarify but it looks to me that we're no better off now than we were in January.


EFL can't stop us doing certain things.

That includes, for example, loaning a player from now until January with an obligation to buy for an agreed price when the window opens in January.


Are you sure? Surely that's a "commitment to buy" in January?

I suppose we'll find out soon enough if any players do indeed get signed on that basis.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:30 pm

davids wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
davids wrote:Don't want to piss on anyone's chips but I seem to recall that the embargo meant that not only could we not pay a fee for a player but we could also not "Commit to pay a fee" either which if correct would scupper any chance of us loaning a player now
and paying for them in January.

Glad to be proven wrong if anyone can clarify but it looks to me that we're no better off now than we were in January.


EFL can't stop us doing certain things.

That includes, for example, loaning a player from now until January with an obligation to buy for an agreed price when the window opens in January.


Are you sure? Surely that's a "commitment to buy" in January?

I suppose we'll find out soon enough if any players do indeed get signed on that basis.


But the initial deal is made, it's a loan. The obligation to buy doesn't come until effect until January.

This is how other clubs have operated when under a one window transfer fee ban.

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:34 pm

davids wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
davids wrote:Don't want to piss on anyone's chips but I seem to recall that the embargo meant that not only could we not pay a fee for a player but we could also not "Commit to pay a fee" either which if correct would scupper any chance of us loaning a player now
and paying for them in January.

Glad to be proven wrong if anyone can clarify but it looks to me that we're no better off now than we were in January.


EFL can't stop us doing certain things.

That includes, for example, loaning a player from now until January with an obligation to buy for an agreed price when the window opens in January.


Are you sure? Surely that's a "commitment to buy" in January?

I suppose we'll find out soon enough if any players do indeed get signed on that basis.


Our ability to loan then buy has come about because the loan and January purchase are in the same season.

Without the reduction in the ban by one window, season long loans, especially when a player is in the last year of a contract, are very rare and not beneficial to the selling club

This is a long read but tells you everything.

https://footballhandbook.com/loan-with- ... t=cmp-true

Re: CCFC Club Statement: Restriction reduced to two windows

Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:37 pm

Chance of getting kipre back now if he's fancied by the new gaffer