Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:07 am
Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:33 am
Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:I was just thinking about the January window and how it will be a really important window now we can pay transfer fees. If we are either in a promotion hunt or relegation fight we need to recruit very smartly.
It did get me thinking however, there is no guarantee that Tan will pay the full £17m due to Nantes and the sanction to be lifted. Doesn't he have 30 days to do so? Is there any confirmation this has been paid or pending payment etc?
We've withheld payments before, what are the chances of it happening again?
I am worried that if the payment isn't completed to put all of this behind us then we will have much more serious penalties/restrictions against us.
Thu Jul 06, 2023 12:21 pm
Thu Jul 06, 2023 1:08 pm
Thu Jul 06, 2023 1:10 pm
Bluebird1977 wrote:Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:I was just thinking about the January window and how it will be a really important window now we can pay transfer fees. If we are either in a promotion hunt or relegation fight we need to recruit very smartly.
It did get me thinking however, there is no guarantee that Tan will pay the full £17m due to Nantes and the sanction to be lifted. Doesn't he have 30 days to do so? Is there any confirmation this has been paid or pending payment etc?
We've withheld payments before, what are the chances of it happening again?
I am worried that if the payment isn't completed to put all of this behind us then we will have much more serious penalties/restrictions against us.
You mean the money that was put to one side dalman the paid liar once said. Let's hope tan pays it as that's what the legal system has said otherwise we will be in the same boat this season
Thu Jul 06, 2023 1:17 pm
Thu Jul 06, 2023 1:28 pm
bluebird04 wrote:can someone explain how this all links with the nantes officals being arrested as well. surely it would of been best to pay the money to FIFA, who could then hold it until all this was sorted.
but i think this case might be the thing causes tan to have a "dropping the penny" moment and actively seek to sell.
Thu Jul 06, 2023 1:37 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Yes Tan will finally pay everything owed as we have not only been threatened with a massive Transfer Embargo, We have been told we will even be banned from signing loans and free transfers they are that fed up of us.
And We have been warned there will be NO 30 day extension this time.
Four and a half years later.
Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:51 am
Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Yes Tan will finally pay everything owed as we have not only been threatened with a massive Transfer Embargo, We have been told we will even be banned from signing loans and free transfers they are that fed up of us.
And We have been warned there will be NO 30 day extension this time.
Four and a half years later.
Basically then, if the money is not paid this month by Tan then we are in serious trouble.
I wonder if the club will put out a statement if/when the money is paid so as to calm all of our nerves! Probably not!
Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:09 am
Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:53 pm
Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:I was just thinking about the January window and how it will be a really important window now we can pay transfer fees. If we are either in a promotion hunt or relegation fight we need to recruit very smartly.
It did get me thinking however, there is no guarantee that Tan will pay the full £17m due to Nantes and the sanction to be lifted. Doesn't he have 30 days to do so? Is there any confirmation this has been paid or pending payment etc?
We've withheld payments before, what are the chances of it happening again?
I am worried that if the payment isn't completed to put all of this behind us then we will have much more serious penalties/restrictions against us.
Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:59 pm
Bluebird1977 wrote:Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:I was just thinking about the January window and how it will be a really important window now we can pay transfer fees. If we are either in a promotion hunt or relegation fight we need to recruit very smartly.
It did get me thinking however, there is no guarantee that Tan will pay the full £17m due to Nantes and the sanction to be lifted. Doesn't he have 30 days to do so? Is there any confirmation this has been paid or pending payment etc?
We've withheld payments before, what are the chances of it happening again?
I am worried that if the payment isn't completed to put all of this behind us then we will have much more serious penalties/restrictions against us.
You mean the money that was put to one side dalman the paid liar once said. Let's hope tan pays it as that's what the legal system has said otherwise we will be in the same boat this season
Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:02 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Yes Tan will finally pay everything owed as we have not only been threatened with a massive Transfer Embargo, We have been told we will even be banned from signing loans and free transfers they are that fed up of us.
And We have been warned there will be NO 30 day extension this time.
Four and a half years later.
Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:09 pm
davids wrote:If the club pay the £17m how will that affect FFP?
Has the fact that the money has been "accounted for" in the books mean that it would not be treated as payment of one huge lump sum because if by paying it we are treated as already have spent £17m then this seasons loss is going to be massive.
Which in turn would lead to probable points deductions.
Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:14 pm
Ninian1962 wrote:davids wrote:If the club pay the £17m how will that affect FFP?
Has the fact that the money has been "accounted for" in the books mean that it would not be treated as payment of one huge lump sum because if by paying it we are treated as already have spent £17m then this seasons loss is going to be massive.
Which in turn would lead to probable points deductions.
1. it is not 17m it is 11m
2. paying it will have no impact of the EFL Profitability and Sustainability rules as a provision of over £20m has been included in the audited annual accounts since May 2019. If the total eventually paid to Nantes , including interest and legal fees, comes to less that than provision then the loss will be reduced not increased.
Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:26 pm
Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:25 pm
Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:Any update on this?
Surely time is ticking
Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:38 pm
davids wrote:Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:Any update on this?
Surely time is ticking
I notice that so far we don't seem to have signed any players on the "loan now buy in January" basis that a lot of posters thought was a way to get round the embargo which could mean that the club are preparing for the embargo to extend beyond January.
Or maybe Vincent is having a rummage down the back of his sofa for the last couple of million to pay it all off?
Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:56 pm
wez1927 wrote:davids wrote:Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:Any update on this?
Surely time is ticking
I notice that so far we don't seem to have signed any players on the "loan now buy in January" basis that a lot of posters thought was a way to get round the embargo which could mean that the club are preparing for the embargo to extend beyond January.
Or maybe Vincent is having a rummage down the back of his sofa for the last couple of million to pay it all off?
Not allowed to do that under our embargo that's why .
Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:00 pm
davids wrote:wez1927 wrote:davids wrote:Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:Any update on this?
Surely time is ticking
I notice that so far we don't seem to have signed any players on the "loan now buy in January" basis that a lot of posters thought was a way to get round the embargo which could mean that the club are preparing for the embargo to extend beyond January.
Or maybe Vincent is having a rummage down the back of his sofa for the last couple of million to pay it all off?
Not allowed to do that under our embargo that's why .
There were quite a lot of posters suggesting that would be a way around the embargo.
Anyway - back to the original question.
Does anyone know if any steps have been taken to ensure that the outstanding payments will be made before the deadline to stop the club being punished further?
Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:06 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:davids wrote:wez1927 wrote:davids wrote:Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:Any update on this?
Surely time is ticking
I notice that so far we don't seem to have signed any players on the "loan now buy in January" basis that a lot of posters thought was a way to get round the embargo which could mean that the club are preparing for the embargo to extend beyond January.
Or maybe Vincent is having a rummage down the back of his sofa for the last couple of million to pay it all off?
Not allowed to do that under our embargo that's why .
There were quite a lot of posters suggesting that would be a way around the embargo.
Anyway - back to the original question.
Does anyone know if any steps have been taken to ensure that the outstanding payments will be made before the deadline to stop the club being punished further?
Surely he'll pay it. Been made clear the restrictions will be even stronger if we don't.
He'll probably just use more money off Dalman for it.
Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:36 pm
Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:00 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:davids wrote:wez1927 wrote:davids wrote:Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:Any update on this?
Surely time is ticking
I notice that so far we don't seem to have signed any players on the "loan now buy in January" basis that a lot of posters thought was a way to get round the embargo which could mean that the club are preparing for the embargo to extend beyond January.
Or maybe Vincent is having a rummage down the back of his sofa for the last couple of million to pay it all off?
Not allowed to do that under our embargo that's why .
There were quite a lot of posters suggesting that would be a way around the embargo.
Anyway - back to the original question.
Does anyone know if any steps have been taken to ensure that the outstanding payments will be made before the deadline to stop the club being punished further?
Surely he'll pay it. Been made clear the restrictions will be even stronger if we don't.
He'll probably just use more money off Dalman for it.