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‘ Kieron Evans “

Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:08 pm

Erol Bulut: “ Kieron Evans “


“I was asked to play the younger players and I am giving them all a chance.”

I’m satisfied with his performance. He’s a quick player, he’s skilful.

"Sometimes he does try to keep the ball too much, so he has to think a little quicker when the ball gets to his feet. But he’s doing well, and I’m satisfied.”

“I’ve given him plenty of games to show me”

Bulut concluded by welcoming new signing Yakou Méïté to the Club, hoping that the striker can hit the ground running.

“Yakou has been playing in the Championship for the past five or six years,” Erol concluded. “He was a good goal scorer at Reading, he knows how to score, and this is what we need.

“He’s experienced, strong, skilful; he will play many games for us and score.”
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Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:15 pm

Been really impressed with him. Expecially yesterday against better opposition.

Really improved the last couple of years.

A lot depends on who else we bring in, but it might be that they decide to loan him out again to give him a season of playing regularly in competitive games at a decent level.

He's capable of playing at League One or League Two level so if we loan him out it should be to a club in one of those leagues. He's too good for non league or the Cymru Premier.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:40 pm

.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.

" I was asked to play the youngsters ".

By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.

The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.

We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.

Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.

The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.

That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:09 pm

Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.

" I was asked to play the youngsters ".

By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.

The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.

We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.

Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.

The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.

That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.


Didn't we all expect the younger players to get a chance in pre season though?

I'm no defender of Tan but I think you're reading far too much into that comment.

He's already said he wants 10 new players.

I highly doubt any of Evans, King, Bagan, Benjamin etc will be starting against Leeds or going forward.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:36 pm

In fairness had EB not said it, then team selection might have looked quite reasonable.

But the fact is he did say it, and it concerns me. Maybe, I am reading too much into it, but if it were true, past experience indicates it would be nothing new.

Regarding the topic itself, Evans has not done himself any harm. He has shown youthful exuberance, and a desire to do well. He doesnt impact the game, but shows a little more promise.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:44 pm

I feel we should keep him around this season. He’s only got one year left on his contract. No point loaning him out without giving him a new deal.

I think he would be useful for us though, he can run at players and has got a fantastic delivery on him, a low centre of gravity so he can turn and run at defenders.

I feel he can compete At championship level without any issues. Last year out playing men’s football as brought him on.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:54 pm

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Barclay1 wrote:In fairness had EB not said it, then team selection might have looked quite reasonable.

But the fact is he did say it, and it concerns me. Maybe, I am reading too much into it, but if it were true, past experience indicates it would be nothing new.

Regarding the topic itself, Evans has not done himself any harm. He has shown youthful exuberance, and a desire to do well. He doesnt impact the game, but shows a little more promise.


To be fair, I don't think there's any one else available other than what we used anyway, we are wafer thin as a squad at the moment, with players still to leave also.

The one thing that can ease your concerns is that he was only "asked" - and not demanded. EB could just consider it a reasonable request considering the current situation. Also, the board would probably appreciate his opinion on the entire squad so he can give back an honest assessment.

If he was asked that with a fuller squad and then yes, I would be concerned, but outside of that, I would say that Evans, Joel Colwill and Tanner have benefitted from that decision - Evans and Tanner with a good pre-season should hopefully get a much better development loan next season.

As for Joel Colwill, hmmmmm... I think we will be seeing him in the squad this season.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:29 pm

Barclay1 wrote:In fairness had EB not said it, then team selection might have looked quite reasonable.

But the fact is he did say it, and it concerns me. Maybe, I am reading too much into it, but if it were true, past experience indicates it would be nothing new.

Regarding the topic itself, Evans has not done himself any harm. He has shown youthful exuberance, and a desire to do well. He doesnt impact the game, but shows a little more promise.


Bit of an over the top hysterical reaction. No?
Let’s get some league games in and see where we are because I bet if after 10 games we in the top 4 you won’t be congratulating tan on team selection will you??

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:56 am

Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.

" I was asked to play the youngsters ".

By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.

The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.

We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.

Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.

The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.

That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.


Being a devils advocate here Tan has been told that our youngsters are potential stars and he may have said to The manager can you play them in preseason and give me your view on them . Not saying that happened but things can get lost in translation

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:48 am

Abergavenny wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.

" I was asked to play the youngsters ".

By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.

The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.

We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.

Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.

The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.

That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.


Being a devils advocate here Tan has been told that our youngsters are potential stars and he may have said to The manager can you play them in preseason and give me your view on them . Not saying that happened but things can get lost in translation

Which would make total sense and to be completely expected

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:54 am

Abergavenny wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.

" I was asked to play the youngsters ".

By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.

The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.

We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.

Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.

The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.

That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.


Being a devils advocate here Tan has been told that our youngsters are potential stars and he may have said to The manager can you play them in preseason and give me your view on them . Not saying that happened but things can get lost in translation



Well two years ago in the Summer, Tan himself demanded we put 10-12 younger players in, to cut the budget as they are on peanuts. Managers were told they had to play them, it nearly relegated us and then suddenly for the last 18mths we have hardly seen one and if that 12 players, only Colwill and Davies remain the remainder went to non league and lower leagues.

The problem was Glen Williams was like Tan & Dalmans PR as he put them all out as stars.

Then last season we saw 17 players brought in on freebies , before the good quality loans and guess what we were virtually relegated.

So hopefully they at the top realise this does not work, yes out 2 or 3 in as I always stated and put quality around them.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:04 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Abergavenny wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.

" I was asked to play the youngsters ".

By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.

The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.

We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.

Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.

The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.

That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.


Being a devils advocate here Tan has been told that our youngsters are potential stars and he may have said to The manager can you play them in preseason and give me your view on them . Not saying that happened but things can get lost in translation



Well two years ago in the Summer, Tan himself demanded we put 10-12 younger players in, to cut the budget as they are on peanuts. Managers were told they had to play them, it nearly relegated us and then suddenly for the last 18mths we have hardly seen one and if that 12 players, only Colwill and Davies remain the remainder went to non league and lower leagues.

The problem was Glen Williams was like Tan & Dalmans PR as he put them all out as stars.

Then last season we saw 17 players brought in on freebies , before the good quality loans and guess what we were virtually relegated.

So hopefully they at the top realise this does not work, yes out 2 or 3 in as I always stated and put quality around them.


Think the new manager will tell Tan his honest views about the players Saying we need 10 players is an indication of our lack of depth The only player in youth that I think has really got anything about him is Joel Colwill . I would say I think Eli King could developer into a decent team player as well The rest I don’t see much at this stage.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:11 am

Abergavenny wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Abergavenny wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.

" I was asked to play the youngsters ".

By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.

The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.

We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.

Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.

The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.

That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.


Being a devils advocate here Tan has been told that our youngsters are potential stars and he may have said to The manager can you play them in preseason and give me your view on them . Not saying that happened but things can get lost in translation



Well two years ago in the Summer, Tan himself demanded we put 10-12 younger players in, to cut the budget as they are on peanuts. Managers were told they had to play them, it nearly relegated us and then suddenly for the last 18mths we have hardly seen one and if that 12 players, only Colwill and Davies remain the remainder went to non league and lower leagues.

The problem was Glen Williams was like Tan & Dalmans PR as he put them all out as stars.

Then last season we saw 17 players brought in on freebies , before the good quality loans and guess what we were virtually relegated.

So hopefully they at the top realise this does not work, yes out 2 or 3 in as I always stated and put quality around them.


Think the new manager will tell Tan his honest views about the players Saying we need 10 players is an indication of our lack of depth The only player in youth that I think has really got anything about him is Joel Colwill . I would say I think Eli King could developer into a decent team player as well The rest I don’t see much at this stage.



I’m with you at this moment there is NO more than 3 players ready to come through and that’s how really football is that would be good.

Saying 10-12 players was pure madness and bullshit

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:19 am

Abergavenny wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.

" I was asked to play the youngsters ".

By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.

The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.

We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.

Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.

The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.

That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.


Being a devils advocate here Tan has been told that our youngsters are potential stars and he may have said to The manager can you play them in preseason and give me your view on them . Not saying that happened but things can get lost in translation


Anyone could have asked him to play the youngsters, but that doesn’t mean Erol was gonna play them anyway. He wants to see them all play.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:43 am

My first instinct was when a manager gets asked to play the youngsters is "by who" in any other team the manager has the final say on what team goes out, but this is Cardiff city!!

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:47 am

It’s likely someone mentioned we have some young players worth checking out that could be part of the first team.

Let’s not turn this into a conspiracy theory please.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:03 pm

WTF.... op has a very unhealthy obsession with starting a conspiracy theory about anything that will start Anti Tan thread.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm youth team coach says to New manager " I've a kid here I think you should have a look at "
Manager says " OK there's a pre season game I will put him in"

It's not rocket science!!!

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:03 pm

Even if Tan did say he wants the youngsters blooded in, so what?

Do you think clubs like Manchester United have had an academy product in every match day squad for the past 85 years by coincidence?

Nothing wrong with wanting to establish a club culture, it’s if he starts telling Bulut that he wants certain players playing in certain positions that people should start getting worried about.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:21 pm

JulesK wrote:WTF.... op has a very unhealthy obsession with starting a conspiracy theory about anything that will start Anti Tan thread.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm youth team coach says to New manager " I've a kid here I think you should have a look at "
Manager says " OK there's a pre season game I will put him in"

It's not rocket science!!!


Absolutely spot with this poster Barclay.
What a complete and utter over reaction to a harmless comment about trying the youngsters out and having a look.

“Shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans” …. Ffs I’m really fearful in fact in shitting myself :lol: :lol:

“Then we will all know that Tan is absolutely in charge of team selection” :lol:

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:41 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
JulesK wrote:WTF.... op has a very unhealthy obsession with starting a conspiracy theory about anything that will start Anti Tan thread.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm youth team coach says to New manager " I've a kid here I think you should have a look at "
Manager says " OK there's a pre season game I will put him in"

It's not rocket science!!!


Absolutely spot with this poster Barclay.
What a complete and utter over reaction to a harmless comment about trying the youngsters out and having a look.

“Shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans” …. Ffs I’m really fearful in fact in shitting myself :lol: :lol:

“Then we will all know that Tan is absolutely in charge of team selection” :lol:


Top post.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:43 pm

JulesK wrote:WTF.... op has a very unhealthy obsession with starting a conspiracy theory about anything that will start Anti Tan thread.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm youth team coach says to New manager " I've a kid here I think you should have a look at "
Manager says " OK there's a pre season game I will put him in"

It's not rocket science!!!


Brilliant post mate and your spot on I belive. Shame he more concerned in trying to stir shit between us fans than wanting the best for city on the pitch. If the youngsters don’t get theses chances no one will come here.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:44 pm

M4 Exile wrote:Even if Tan did say he wants the youngsters blooded in, so what?

Do you think clubs like Manchester United have had an academy product in every match day squad for the past 85 years by coincidence?

Nothing wrong with wanting to establish a club culture, it’s if he starts telling Bulut that he wants certain players playing in certain positions that people should start getting worried about.


An other well balanced reply.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:44 pm

I stand by my comment. Now, I may of course be barking up the wrong tree, but who can blame me with such a crackpot owner who has form for just that....

Anyone who dismisses this out of hand as nonsense has clearly not understood how much the Dictator totally runs this club from top to bottom, and as a result co.pletely turned us into a pariah club and laughing stock.

There is talk this year that power may be switching. Signings appear to be better quality and the Dictator will have less of an influence. Small green shoots might be appearing, but Buluts comments should be a reminder that we will only be out of the woods when Tan takes a back seat and decides to let a football man come and do the job.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:46 pm

I notice he hasn’t responded to back up his accusations since no one seeing it his way. I say his his stirring has fallen flat on its face and backfired spectacularly. Lol.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:15 pm

I'm glad people are finally seeing through this poster..Anti Cardiff fan.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:17 pm

Please see my previous comment and opinion.

Thank you.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:47 pm

Barclay1 wrote:I stand by my comment. Now, I may of course be barking up the wrong tree, but who can blame me with such a crackpot owner who has form for just that....

Anyone who dismisses this out of hand as nonsense has clearly not understood how much the Dictator totally runs this club from top to bottom, and as a result co.pletely turned us into a pariah club and laughing stock.

There is talk this year that power may be switching. Signings appear to be better quality and the Dictator will have less of an influence. Small green shoots might be appearing, but Buluts comments should be a reminder that we will only be out of the woods when Tan takes a back seat and decides to let a football man come and do the job.


What word’s exactly?

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:44 am

So the lad who agreed to go on loan to a non league team... Knuckled down... Played 30+ games. Has improved as a player?! Shock.

The next step is an EFL loan to further improve. Let's see if this happens.

Also a mention to Tanner, who seems to have improved after a similar loan.

Isn't this what the club has said is the plan? Maybe if more players had their attitudes they wouldn't get released!

Bravo boys. Career in football for you lads. Hopefully prove yourselves and it be at our club.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:15 am

jimmy_rat wrote:So the lad who agreed to go on loan to a non league team... Knuckled down... Played 30+ games. Has improved as a player?! Shock.

The next step is an EFL loan to further improve. Let's see if this happens.

Also a mention to Tanner, who seems to have improved after a similar loan.

Isn't this what the club has said is the plan? Maybe if more players had their attitudes they wouldn't get released!

Bravo boys. Career in football for you lads. Hopefully prove yourselves and it be at our club.



Let’s hope Evans and Tanner now make it to Championship level.

Re: ‘ Kieron Evans “

Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:29 am

Forever Blue wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:So the lad who agreed to go on loan to a non league team... Knuckled down... Played 30+ games. Has improved as a player?! Shock.

The next step is an EFL loan to further improve. Let's see if this happens.

Also a mention to Tanner, who seems to have improved after a similar loan.

Isn't this what the club has said is the plan? Maybe if more players had their attitudes they wouldn't get released!

Bravo boys. Career in football for you lads. Hopefully prove yourselves and it be at our club.



Let’s hope Evans and Tanner now make it to Championship level.


Exactly my point. There a clear learning curve. A good loan at an EFL club next. These two seem the ones who are most likely to make it out of current crop. Good luck to them.