Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:08 pm
Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:15 pm
Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:40 pm
Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:09 pm
Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.
" I was asked to play the youngsters ".
By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.
The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.
We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.
Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.
The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.
That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.
Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:36 pm
Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:44 pm
Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:54 pm
Barclay1 wrote:In fairness had EB not said it, then team selection might have looked quite reasonable.
But the fact is he did say it, and it concerns me. Maybe, I am reading too much into it, but if it were true, past experience indicates it would be nothing new.
Regarding the topic itself, Evans has not done himself any harm. He has shown youthful exuberance, and a desire to do well. He doesnt impact the game, but shows a little more promise.
Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:29 pm
Barclay1 wrote:In fairness had EB not said it, then team selection might have looked quite reasonable.
But the fact is he did say it, and it concerns me. Maybe, I am reading too much into it, but if it were true, past experience indicates it would be nothing new.
Regarding the topic itself, Evans has not done himself any harm. He has shown youthful exuberance, and a desire to do well. He doesnt impact the game, but shows a little more promise.
Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:56 am
Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.
" I was asked to play the youngsters ".
By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.
The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.
We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.
Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.
The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.
That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.
Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:48 am
Abergavenny wrote:Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.
" I was asked to play the youngsters ".
By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.
The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.
We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.
Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.
The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.
That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.
Being a devils advocate here Tan has been told that our youngsters are potential stars and he may have said to The manager can you play them in preseason and give me your view on them . Not saying that happened but things can get lost in translation
Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:54 am
Abergavenny wrote:Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.
" I was asked to play the youngsters ".
By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.
The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.
We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.
Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.
The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.
That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.
Being a devils advocate here Tan has been told that our youngsters are potential stars and he may have said to The manager can you play them in preseason and give me your view on them . Not saying that happened but things can get lost in translation
Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:04 am
Forever Blue wrote:Abergavenny wrote:Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.
" I was asked to play the youngsters ".
By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.
The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.
We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.
Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.
The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.
That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.
Being a devils advocate here Tan has been told that our youngsters are potential stars and he may have said to The manager can you play them in preseason and give me your view on them . Not saying that happened but things can get lost in translation
Well two years ago in the Summer, Tan himself demanded we put 10-12 younger players in, to cut the budget as they are on peanuts. Managers were told they had to play them, it nearly relegated us and then suddenly for the last 18mths we have hardly seen one and if that 12 players, only Colwill and Davies remain the remainder went to non league and lower leagues.
The problem was Glen Williams was like Tan & Dalmans PR as he put them all out as stars.
Then last season we saw 17 players brought in on freebies , before the good quality loans and guess what we were virtually relegated.
So hopefully they at the top realise this does not work, yes out 2 or 3 in as I always stated and put quality around them.
Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:11 am
Abergavenny wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Abergavenny wrote:Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.
" I was asked to play the youngsters ".
By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.
The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.
We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.
Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.
The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.
That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.
Being a devils advocate here Tan has been told that our youngsters are potential stars and he may have said to The manager can you play them in preseason and give me your view on them . Not saying that happened but things can get lost in translation
Well two years ago in the Summer, Tan himself demanded we put 10-12 younger players in, to cut the budget as they are on peanuts. Managers were told they had to play them, it nearly relegated us and then suddenly for the last 18mths we have hardly seen one and if that 12 players, only Colwill and Davies remain the remainder went to non league and lower leagues.
The problem was Glen Williams was like Tan & Dalmans PR as he put them all out as stars.
Then last season we saw 17 players brought in on freebies , before the good quality loans and guess what we were virtually relegated.
So hopefully they at the top realise this does not work, yes out 2 or 3 in as I always stated and put quality around them.
Think the new manager will tell Tan his honest views about the players Saying we need 10 players is an indication of our lack of depth The only player in youth that I think has really got anything about him is Joel Colwill . I would say I think Eli King could developer into a decent team player as well The rest I don’t see much at this stage.
Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:19 am
Abergavenny wrote:Barclay1 wrote:.... and it is this one statement that shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans.
" I was asked to play the youngsters ".
By whom? If its Tan, then we will know that Tan is still absolutely in charge of team selection. If it was Dalman, then we know that Tan does actually still have him in his pocket and he still simply does his bidding like a lapdog.
The one clear thing is that Bulut confirmed he did not play who HE wanted to play.
We are all excited by this new start, but if the new manager is already being dictated to, then nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, has changed, and we remain a calamity of a club.
Nobody should be telling Bulut who to play, especially in Friendlies. If this happens now, then we can also expect it in games that matter.
The team selection is the sole responsibility of the manager. Dear Dictator, or whoever is picking the team, keep your nose OUT, and let the manager manage.
That one statement could really have lost a lot of goodwill some fans were prepared to give the leadership.
Being a devils advocate here Tan has been told that our youngsters are potential stars and he may have said to The manager can you play them in preseason and give me your view on them . Not saying that happened but things can get lost in translation
Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:43 am
Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:47 am
Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:03 pm
Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:03 pm
Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:21 pm
JulesK wrote:WTF.... op has a very unhealthy obsession with starting a conspiracy theory about anything that will start Anti Tan thread.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm youth team coach says to New manager " I've a kid here I think you should have a look at "
Manager says " OK there's a pre season game I will put him in"
It's not rocket science!!!
Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:41 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:JulesK wrote:WTF.... op has a very unhealthy obsession with starting a conspiracy theory about anything that will start Anti Tan thread.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm youth team coach says to New manager " I've a kid here I think you should have a look at "
Manager says " OK there's a pre season game I will put him in"
It's not rocket science!!!
Absolutely spot with this poster Barclay.
What a complete and utter over reaction to a harmless comment about trying the youngsters out and having a look.
“Shuuld strike fear into all Bluebird fans” …. Ffs I’m really fearful in fact in shitting myself![]()
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“Then we will all know that Tan is absolutely in charge of team selection”
Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:43 pm
JulesK wrote:WTF.... op has a very unhealthy obsession with starting a conspiracy theory about anything that will start Anti Tan thread.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm youth team coach says to New manager " I've a kid here I think you should have a look at "
Manager says " OK there's a pre season game I will put him in"
It's not rocket science!!!
Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:44 pm
M4 Exile wrote:Even if Tan did say he wants the youngsters blooded in, so what?
Do you think clubs like Manchester United have had an academy product in every match day squad for the past 85 years by coincidence?
Nothing wrong with wanting to establish a club culture, it’s if he starts telling Bulut that he wants certain players playing in certain positions that people should start getting worried about.
Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:44 pm
Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:46 pm
Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:15 pm
Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:17 pm
Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:47 pm
Barclay1 wrote:I stand by my comment. Now, I may of course be barking up the wrong tree, but who can blame me with such a crackpot owner who has form for just that....
Anyone who dismisses this out of hand as nonsense has clearly not understood how much the Dictator totally runs this club from top to bottom, and as a result co.pletely turned us into a pariah club and laughing stock.
There is talk this year that power may be switching. Signings appear to be better quality and the Dictator will have less of an influence. Small green shoots might be appearing, but Buluts comments should be a reminder that we will only be out of the woods when Tan takes a back seat and decides to let a football man come and do the job.
Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:44 am
Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:15 am
jimmy_rat wrote:So the lad who agreed to go on loan to a non league team... Knuckled down... Played 30+ games. Has improved as a player?! Shock.
The next step is an EFL loan to further improve. Let's see if this happens.
Also a mention to Tanner, who seems to have improved after a similar loan.
Isn't this what the club has said is the plan? Maybe if more players had their attitudes they wouldn't get released!
Bravo boys. Career in football for you lads. Hopefully prove yourselves and it be at our club.
Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:29 am
Forever Blue wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:So the lad who agreed to go on loan to a non league team... Knuckled down... Played 30+ games. Has improved as a player?! Shock.
The next step is an EFL loan to further improve. Let's see if this happens.
Also a mention to Tanner, who seems to have improved after a similar loan.
Isn't this what the club has said is the plan? Maybe if more players had their attitudes they wouldn't get released!
Bravo boys. Career in football for you lads. Hopefully prove yourselves and it be at our club.
Let’s hope Evans and Tanner now make it to Championship level.