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" Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:01 pm

Joel Bagan has joined S.V. Zulte Waregem on loan for the 2023/24 season.

Not the top league in Belgium, a lower league.


Joel Bagan aged 22

He signed a new three-year deal with the Bluebirds earlier this summer.

All the very best to Joel while competing in the Challenger Pro League this campaign.
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Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:03 pm

Big fan of sending our players to Belgium.

Has worked wonders for Brighton players

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:05 pm

Noticed it’s not the top league but a team that went down so hopefully a good confidence builder

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:10 pm

Good luck to him, a good move and hope he has a good season.

Unlikely to get in our team as O'Dowda and Collins are ahead of him.

Panzo can also play there if he signs.

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:26 pm

Good luck to him, hope he develops into the player he could be

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:34 pm

Good luck to Joel, I mean that.

But at 22 yrs old if he was good enough for the Championship Erol would of kept him.

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:02 pm

Good luck. Had some real good spells, bit ultimately short of the mark in my opinion.

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:12 pm

Good Luck to the Lad .

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:20 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Good luck to Joel, I mean that.

But at 22 yrs old if he was good enough for the Championship Erol would of kept him.

Me, too! I met Joel and he is a genuinely nice guy. I also think he could make the grade in the EFL if given the chance... :ayatollah:

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:00 pm

Guessing with Tom Davies gone as well that means O'Dowda will mainly be a left back this year

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:52 pm

I may be in the minority but I quite like him, defo needs a loan and experience. Learn the art of defending. But I do think he's got something about him and could still make it with us.

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:28 am

Probably the best move for him at the moment but I rate him, I think he’ll definitely make the grade.
He looked much better than Collins when he came on Wednesday night albeit Collins needs more time after his injury.

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:39 am

Lets be brutally honest, the lad is 22 years old and has had about 6 City managers including Erol who gave everyone a chance in the last 11 games.
The CCFC Committee gave Bagan a new 3 yr contract.

If Bagan like all those before him at 22 years old was going to make it in Our Championship team he would still be here.

At his age he should have had at least 40-50 Championship games under him.

The truth is he's just not good enough.

Great lad, and I really hope he comes back and proves me wrong, but unfortunately, those before him, NONE have that have gone out in the last 14 yrs.

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Sat Aug 12, 2023 12:29 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Lets be brutally honest, the lad is 22 years old and has had about 6 City managers including Erol who gave everyone a chance in the last 11 games.
The CCFC Committee gave Bagan a new 3 yr contract.

If Bagan like all those before him at 22 years old was going to make it in Our Championship team he would still be here.

At his age he should have had at least 40-50 Championship games under him.

The truth is he's just not good enough.

Great lad, and I really hope he comes back and proves me wrong, but unfortunately, those before him, NONE have that have gone out in the last 14 yrs.


Truth is that Bulut has high standards. Said the other day we have to be "much much better at everything".

He would have looked at players like Bagan and decided quickly that they won't meet those standards.

Good luck to him on loan, but it's difficult to see him ever being a Championship defender. Would have made it by now.

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Sat Aug 12, 2023 1:18 pm

Surely the chaos of 6 managers cannot be a stable environment for players to develop?

Re: " Cardiff City defender leaves on loan "

Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:26 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Lets be brutally honest, the lad is 22 years old and has had about 6 City managers including Erol who gave everyone a chance in the last 11 games.
The CCFC Committee gave Bagan a new 3 yr contract.

If Bagan like all those before him at 22 years old was going to make it in Our Championship team he would still be here.

At his age he should have had at least 40-50 Championship games under him.

The truth is he's just not good enough.

Great lad, and I really hope he comes back and proves me wrong, but unfortunately, those before him, NONE have that have gone out in the last 14 yrs.


I think that Bagan could have been good enough but just badly coached over the last 3-4 years, if we could sort that out then the 16-18 yrs old currently in our academy could make it into our team, otherwise you, and the majority of the fans will still be saying they are not good enough when they reach 21/22yrs of age