Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:08 am
Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:09 am
Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:21 am
Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:27 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:In fairness to Morison absolutely nobody would have been able to assemble a competitive championship squad with no money at all to spend
He did make a few decent signings in the freebie market and the 2 players he did buy Etete and Robinson only cost £2 million between them absolute peanuts in todays market
That said Vontae-Campbell is absolutely useless and an embarrassment to his profession..the guy needs to do the “decent” thing and leave.. he won’t be that much out of pocket because we will no doubt have to pay a considerable amount of his wages to supplement any new contract he gets elsewhere
You would think he would have at least a shred of dignity and just go but it appears not!!
Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:01 am
Absolute parasite, thief and conman. When karma comes do not bleat, it’s you it’ll meet !!!Forever Blue wrote:Vontae Daly-Campbell is on £5,500 per week at Cardiff - was given a three-year contract last summer by Steve Morison
Another waste of money, do we ever learn, a lot of these freebies are free because they are useless.
How so many fans on here praised Morison, in the end he cost us unbelievable money with his so called rejects and freebies.
Yet another right back, we must be collecting them, u couldn't write it could u?
Little wonder this lump wants to sit on his arse and do nothing for the next two years - has already rejected various moves, including a switch to League Two Mansfield Town.
Fact is, as long as Campbell turns up for training - likely with the kids up in Treforest a couple of hours a day - he'll pick up his wages until July 30, 2025
Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:27 am
lordllanbradach@icloud.com wrote:Absolute parasite, thief and conman. When karma comes do not bleat, it’s you it’ll meet !!!Forever Blue wrote:Vontae Daly-Campbell is on £5,500 per week at Cardiff - was given a three-year contract last summer by Steve Morison
Another waste of money, do we ever learn, a lot of these freebies are free because they are useless.
How so many fans on here praised Morison, in the end he cost us unbelievable money with his so called rejects and freebies.
Yet another right back, we must be collecting them, u couldn't write it could u?
Little wonder this lump wants to sit on his arse and do nothing for the next two years - has already rejected various moves, including a switch to League Two Mansfield Town.
Fact is, as long as Campbell turns up for training - likely with the kids up in Treforest a couple of hours a day - he'll pick up his wages until July 30, 2025
Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:35 am
Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:40 am
Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.
This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch
Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:53 am
SplottBlueForever wrote:lordllanbradach@icloud.com wrote:Absolute parasite, thief and conman. When karma comes do not bleat, it’s you it’ll meet !!!Forever Blue wrote:Vontae Daly-Campbell is on £5,500 per week at Cardiff - was given a three-year contract last summer by Steve Morison
Another waste of money, do we ever learn, a lot of these freebies are free because they are useless.
How so many fans on here praised Morison, in the end he cost us unbelievable money with his so called rejects and freebies.
Yet another right back, we must be collecting them, u couldn't write it could u?
Little wonder this lump wants to sit on his arse and do nothing for the next two years - has already rejected various moves, including a switch to League Two Mansfield Town.
Fact is, as long as Campbell turns up for training - likely with the kids up in Treforest a couple of hours a day - he'll pick up his wages until July 30, 2025
Lacking professionalism maybe but parasite, thief and conman are a bit much. We offered him the contract. He’s perfectly entitled to have us fulfil our end of the contract.
Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:16 am
Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.
This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch
Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...!![]()
We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment...
Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:06 am
Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.
This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch
Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...!![]()
We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment...
Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:31 am
SplottBlueForever wrote:Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.
This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch
Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...!![]()
We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment...
Goes back ages Ian.
We have a habit of signing excessive amounts of right backs. Ole signed Brayford and didn’t play him.
Oh how I wish for a Mark Delaney again.
Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:54 am
M4 Exile wrote:SplottBlueForever wrote:Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.
This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch
Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...!![]()
We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment...
Goes back ages Ian.
We have a habit of signing excessive amounts of right backs. Ole signed Brayford and didn’t play him.
Oh how I wish for a Mark Delaney again.
Brayford was a Malky signing, 25 years old didn’t even make the bench for a league game before being loaned out in the following January
Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:17 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.
This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch
Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...!![]()
We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment...
I know it’s unbelievable, Chris, I was shocked many still wanted Tans main puppet.
Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:23 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.
This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch
Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...!![]()
We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment...
I know it’s unbelievable, Chris, I was shocked many still wanted Tans main puppet.
I would say now most if not all are seeing how bad many of Morisons signing were. Adding to that with him promising to bring some of the Youth through then its no surprise he only last 10 games into the new season.
Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:46 pm
Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:24 pm
Sven wrote:M4 Exile wrote:SplottBlueForever wrote:Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.
This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch
Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...!![]()
We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment...
Goes back ages Ian.
We have a habit of signing excessive amounts of right backs. Ole signed Brayford and didn’t play him.
Oh how I wish for a Mark Delaney again.
Brayford was a Malky signing, 25 years old didn’t even make the bench for a league game before being loaned out in the following January
A good point from SplottBlueForever but you are, of course, correct on Brayford being a Malky signing...
It's rather ironic that you bring up Malky, who was the manager who took produced the Premier League 'dream' but was apparently dismissed for a multitude of reasons, some involving his (and Iain Moody's) signings...
Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:09 pm
Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:14 pm
JJ1927 wrote:If that wage of £5,500 is correct that's almost £300K a year. Or to put it another way, we had to sell at least 1000 ADULT SEASON TICKETS to finance the wages of a completely unproven player rejected by two Premier League clubs and whose experience was limited to 9 games on loan in Scotland for Dundee. No wonder the finances of this club are in such a mess.
Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:45 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:JJ1927 wrote:If that wage of £5,500 is correct that's almost £300K a year. Or to put it another way, we had to sell at least 1000 ADULT SEASON TICKETS to finance the wages of a completely unproven player rejected by two Premier League clubs and whose experience was limited to 9 games on loan in Scotland for Dundee. No wonder the finances of this club are in such a mess.
Get what you're saying and I am by no means a defender of the Tan regime.
But let's not pretend we are one of the worst run clubs in terms of finances, because we're not. There are dozens of clubs in the EFL are run far worse than we are and just around the corner from serious trouble, that can't be said about us. So I wouldn't say the finances of the club are in a huge mess, in comparison to other clubs.
Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:05 pm
JJ1927 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:JJ1927 wrote:If that wage of £5,500 is correct that's almost £300K a year. Or to put it another way, we had to sell at least 1000 ADULT SEASON TICKETS to finance the wages of a completely unproven player rejected by two Premier League clubs and whose experience was limited to 9 games on loan in Scotland for Dundee. No wonder the finances of this club are in such a mess.
Get what you're saying and I am by no means a defender of the Tan regime.
But let's not pretend we are one of the worst run clubs in terms of finances, because we're not. There are dozens of clubs in the EFL are run far worse than we are and just around the corner from serious trouble, that can't be said about us. So I wouldn't say the finances of the club are in a huge mess, in comparison to other clubs.
I wasn't saying we were the worst but the only reason we aren't bust is because Tan is propping us up and i cant believe after everything that has gone on and his desire to get the club on an even keel that this type of signing was sanctioned.
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Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:57 am
Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:01 am
theclaw wrote:Yes Campbell is is waste of money,but we have done it for years on a bigger scale sometimes-Cornelius and Murphy.
Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:58 am
Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:23 am
bluebird04 wrote:i'm very torn on this subject, looking at the players Morison did bring in last season, Romeo, Adams, Tanner (looking the business now finally) Alnwick, Jamilu Collins, O'Dowda, Rinomhota, Sawyers (seen flashes) Robinson, Kipre, Philogene, all were good signings, and i think are good players, he had most of the signings spot on,
Jack Simpson, Etete (jury still out) Ojo,Vontae, Allsop (don't know if i have missed any)
in my opinion 11 good players there, and 3 poor signings. thats not a bad record for a man in his first ever management position building his first ever squad, forget the fact he was arrogant and any personal views of Morison, thats a very good start for your job. and its not like he had to bring in 3 or 4, he had a whole squad.
On to Vontae, i think the big thing missing is the fact there seems to be a quote from Bulut, which states Vontae refused to go out on loan and has no intention of leaving, or something alone those lines, now i don't blame him, because we haven't been given the full picture, for all we know he might have said, look i want to stay fight for my place, he might have said, my agent is in talks with a league one side.
but my big issue is, if people are complaining about Morison buying players in that didn't turn out well, i hope they put the same issues towards Warnock, Malky, and Co, because they spent far more money and wages on and brought in far more rubbish in their time.
Dave Jones is the only manager i can remember who knew how to really spot a player, and work well with a budget on transfer fees etc
Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:18 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:theclaw wrote:Yes Campbell is is waste of money,but we have done it for years on a bigger scale sometimes-Cornelius and Murphy.
Yes they were.To judge this fairly though you've got to take off the hindsight goggles.
Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:18 am
bluebird04 wrote:i'm very torn on this subject, looking at the players Morison did bring in last season, Romeo, Adams, Tanner (looking the business now finally) Alnwick, Jamilu Collins, O'Dowda, Rinomhota, Sawyers (seen flashes) Robinson, Kipre, Philogene, all were good signings, and i think are good players, he had most of the signings spot on,
Jack Simpson, Etete (jury still out) Ojo,Vontae, Allsop (don't know if i have missed any)
in my opinion 11 good players there, and 3 poor signings. thats not a bad record for a man in his first ever management position building his first ever squad, forget the fact he was arrogant and any personal views of Morison, thats a very good start for your job. and its not like he had to bring in 3 or 4, he had a whole squad.
On to Vontae, i think the big thing missing is the fact there seems to be a quote from Bulut, which states Vontae refused to go out on loan and has no intention of leaving, or something alone those lines, now i don't blame him, because we haven't been given the full picture, for all we know he might have said, look i want to stay fight for my place, he might have said, my agent is in talks with a league one side.
but my big issue is, if people are complaining about Morison buying players in that didn't turn out well, i hope they put the same issues towards Warnock, Malky, and Co, because they spent far more money and wages on and brought in far more rubbish in their time.
Dave Jones is the only manager i can remember who knew how to really spot a player, and work well with a budget on transfer fees etc