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Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of space

Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:08 am

Vontae Daly-Campbell is on £5,500 per week at Cardiff - was given a three-year contract last summer by Steve Morison

Another waste of money, do we ever learn, a lot of these freebies are free because they are useless.

How so many fans on here praised Morison, in the end he cost us unbelievable money with his so called rejects and freebies.

Yet another right back, we must be collecting them, u couldn't write it could u?

Little wonder this lump wants to sit on his arse and do nothing for the next two years - has already rejected various moves, including a switch to League Two Mansfield Town.

Fact is, as long as Campbell turns up for training - likely with the kids up in Treforest a couple of hours a day - he'll pick up his wages until July 30, 2025

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:09 am

Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.

This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:21 am

In fairness to Morison absolutely nobody would have been able to assemble a competitive championship squad with no money at all to spend

He did make a few decent signings in the freebie market and the 2 players he did buy Etete and Robinson only cost £2 million between them absolute peanuts in todays market

That said Vontae-Campbell is absolutely useless and an embarrassment to his profession..the guy needs to do the “decent” thing and leave.. he won’t be that much out of pocket because we will no doubt have to pay a considerable amount of his wages to supplement any new contract he gets elsewhere

You would think he would have at least a shred of dignity and just go but it appears not!!

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:27 am

oohahhPaulMillar wrote:In fairness to Morison absolutely nobody would have been able to assemble a competitive championship squad with no money at all to spend

He did make a few decent signings in the freebie market and the 2 players he did buy Etete and Robinson only cost £2 million between them absolute peanuts in todays market

That said Vontae-Campbell is absolutely useless and an embarrassment to his profession..the guy needs to do the “decent” thing and leave.. he won’t be that much out of pocket because we will no doubt have to pay a considerable amount of his wages to supplement any new contract he gets elsewhere

You would think he would have at least a shred of dignity and just go but it appears not!!



Sorry No mercy from me with Morison, he was arrogant and did what Tan asked then finally had enough of being told of how to run the team.

So many bad signings as usual and once again costing us, time and time again we keep saying the same story stop signing wasters costing us money.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:01 am

Forever Blue wrote:Vontae Daly-Campbell is on £5,500 per week at Cardiff - was given a three-year contract last summer by Steve Morison

Another waste of money, do we ever learn, a lot of these freebies are free because they are useless.

How so many fans on here praised Morison, in the end he cost us unbelievable money with his so called rejects and freebies.

Yet another right back, we must be collecting them, u couldn't write it could u?

Little wonder this lump wants to sit on his arse and do nothing for the next two years - has already rejected various moves, including a switch to League Two Mansfield Town.

Fact is, as long as Campbell turns up for training - likely with the kids up in Treforest a couple of hours a day - he'll pick up his wages until July 30, 2025
Absolute parasite, thief and conman. When karma comes do not bleat, it’s you it’ll meet !!!

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:27 am

lordllanbradach@icloud.com wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Vontae Daly-Campbell is on £5,500 per week at Cardiff - was given a three-year contract last summer by Steve Morison

Another waste of money, do we ever learn, a lot of these freebies are free because they are useless.

How so many fans on here praised Morison, in the end he cost us unbelievable money with his so called rejects and freebies.

Yet another right back, we must be collecting them, u couldn't write it could u?

Little wonder this lump wants to sit on his arse and do nothing for the next two years - has already rejected various moves, including a switch to League Two Mansfield Town.

Fact is, as long as Campbell turns up for training - likely with the kids up in Treforest a couple of hours a day - he'll pick up his wages until July 30, 2025
Absolute parasite, thief and conman. When karma comes do not bleat, it’s you it’ll meet !!!


Lacking professionalism maybe but parasite, thief and conman are a bit much. We offered him the contract. He’s perfectly entitled to have us fulfil our end of the contract.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:35 am

Indeed. He can sit and take his wages, not playing. But what other club is then going to want him?! Effectively career over. He is hardly a world beater. Short term gain, long term loss. Bad advice from his agent me thinks.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:40 am

Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.

This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch

Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...! :shock:

We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment... :cry:

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:53 am

SplottBlueForever wrote:
lordllanbradach@icloud.com wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Vontae Daly-Campbell is on £5,500 per week at Cardiff - was given a three-year contract last summer by Steve Morison

Another waste of money, do we ever learn, a lot of these freebies are free because they are useless.

How so many fans on here praised Morison, in the end he cost us unbelievable money with his so called rejects and freebies.

Yet another right back, we must be collecting them, u couldn't write it could u?

Little wonder this lump wants to sit on his arse and do nothing for the next two years - has already rejected various moves, including a switch to League Two Mansfield Town.

Fact is, as long as Campbell turns up for training - likely with the kids up in Treforest a couple of hours a day - he'll pick up his wages until July 30, 2025
Absolute parasite, thief and conman. When karma comes do not bleat, it’s you it’ll meet !!!


Lacking professionalism maybe but parasite, thief and conman are a bit much. We offered him the contract. He’s perfectly entitled to have us fulfil our end of the contract.

Another 'for effect' comment from 'His Lordship' who appears to know Campbell's mindset; yet he's never raised the topic before... :roll:

You are right that Campbell signed the contract he was offered and (like Tomlin) is entitled to sit on it; although we all hope he doesn't, as playing the game is surely paramount and there would be no loss of income, as the Bluebirds would have to pay up the remainder of his contract. Equally, any player who doesn't play for two years is going to struggle to find a decent club...

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:16 am

Sven wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.

This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch

Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...! :shock:

We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment... :cry:


Goes back ages Ian.

We have a habit of signing excessive amounts of right backs. Ole signed Brayford and didn’t play him.

Oh how I wish for a Mark Delaney again.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:06 am

Sven wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.

This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch

Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...! :shock:

We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment... :cry:



I know it’s unbelievable, Chris, I was shocked many still wanted Tans main puppet.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:31 am

SplottBlueForever wrote:
Sven wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.

This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch

Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...! :shock:

We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment... :cry:


Goes back ages Ian.

We have a habit of signing excessive amounts of right backs. Ole signed Brayford and didn’t play him.

Oh how I wish for a Mark Delaney again.


Brayford was a Malky signing, 25 years old didn’t even make the bench for a league game before being loaned out in the following January

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:54 am

M4 Exile wrote:
SplottBlueForever wrote:
Sven wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.

This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch

Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...! :shock:

We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment... :cry:


Goes back ages Ian.

We have a habit of signing excessive amounts of right backs. Ole signed Brayford and didn’t play him.

Oh how I wish for a Mark Delaney again.


Brayford was a Malky signing, 25 years old didn’t even make the bench for a league game before being loaned out in the following January

A good point from SplottBlueForever but you are, of course, correct on Brayford being a Malky signing...

It's rather ironic that you bring up Malky, who was the manager who took produced the Premier League 'dream' but was apparently dismissed for a multitude of reasons, some involving his (and Iain Moody's) signings... ;)

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:17 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Sven wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.

This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch

Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...! :shock:

We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment... :cry:



I know it’s unbelievable, Chris, I was shocked many still wanted Tans main puppet.


I would say now most if not all are seeing how bad many of Morisons signing were. Adding to that with him promising to bring some of the Youth through then its no surprise he only last 10 games into the new season.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:23 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Sven wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.

This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch

Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...! :shock:

We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment... :cry:



I know it’s unbelievable, Chris, I was shocked many still wanted Tans main puppet.


I would say now most if not all are seeing how bad many of Morisons signing were. Adding to that with him promising to bring some of the Youth through then its no surprise he only last 10 games into the new season.



I honestly believe he would of relegated us.

Just look where he is managing now.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:46 pm

Bulut's comments about him were spot on, needs to leave now or his career is over.

Morison and Tan are to blame completely for these sorts of signings.

Interesting that most think we've had a good transfer window this summer with it all being down to Bulut and Dalman. Tan has had virtually no involvement.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:24 pm

Sven wrote:
M4 Exile wrote:
SplottBlueForever wrote:
Sven wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Apart from Romeo, Collins, O'Dowda, Adams - jury is out - and Robinson, who we paid decent money for - most of Morison's 17 signings were a complete waste of time.

This is what u get when you hire a rookie who is now down in the soccer bowels at Hornchurch

Yet some were happy' to have him (Morison) back this Summer...! :shock:

We've had a few managers who have cost this club massive amounts of money (in wages, transfer and agent fees) for varying reasons and one of them is poor recruitment... :cry:


Goes back ages Ian.

We have a habit of signing excessive amounts of right backs. Ole signed Brayford and didn’t play him.

Oh how I wish for a Mark Delaney again.


Brayford was a Malky signing, 25 years old didn’t even make the bench for a league game before being loaned out in the following January

A good point from SplottBlueForever but you are, of course, correct on Brayford being a Malky signing...

It's rather ironic that you bring up Malky, who was the manager who took produced the Premier League 'dream' but was apparently dismissed for a multitude of reasons, some involving his (and Iain Moody's) signings... ;)


Oh yeah my bad.

Both of those made some awful signings and started us on the track to where we are today.

Only Dave Jones can hold his head up wrt transfers. Although Warnock did wonders too just didn’t buy great.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:09 pm

If that wage of £5,500 is correct that's almost £300K a year. Or to put it another way, we had to sell at least 1000 ADULT SEASON TICKETS for the next three years to finance the wages of a completely unproven player rejected by two Premier League clubs and whose experience was limited to 9 games on loan in Scotland for Dundee. No wonder the finances of this club are in such a mess.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:14 pm

JJ1927 wrote:If that wage of £5,500 is correct that's almost £300K a year. Or to put it another way, we had to sell at least 1000 ADULT SEASON TICKETS to finance the wages of a completely unproven player rejected by two Premier League clubs and whose experience was limited to 9 games on loan in Scotland for Dundee. No wonder the finances of this club are in such a mess.


Get what you're saying and I am by no means a defender of the Tan regime.

But let's not pretend we are one of the worst run clubs in terms of finances, because we're not. There are dozens of clubs in the EFL are run far worse than we are and just around the corner from serious trouble, that can't be said about us. So I wouldn't say the finances of the club are in a huge mess, in comparison to other clubs.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:45 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:If that wage of £5,500 is correct that's almost £300K a year. Or to put it another way, we had to sell at least 1000 ADULT SEASON TICKETS to finance the wages of a completely unproven player rejected by two Premier League clubs and whose experience was limited to 9 games on loan in Scotland for Dundee. No wonder the finances of this club are in such a mess.


Get what you're saying and I am by no means a defender of the Tan regime.

But let's not pretend we are one of the worst run clubs in terms of finances, because we're not. There are dozens of clubs in the EFL are run far worse than we are and just around the corner from serious trouble, that can't be said about us. So I wouldn't say the finances of the club are in a huge mess, in comparison to other clubs.

I wasn't saying we were the worst but the only reason we aren't bust is because Tan is propping us up and i cant believe after everything that has gone on and his desire to get the club on an even keel that this type of signing was sanctioned.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:05 pm

JJ1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:If that wage of £5,500 is correct that's almost £300K a year. Or to put it another way, we had to sell at least 1000 ADULT SEASON TICKETS to finance the wages of a completely unproven player rejected by two Premier League clubs and whose experience was limited to 9 games on loan in Scotland for Dundee. No wonder the finances of this club are in such a mess.


Get what you're saying and I am by no means a defender of the Tan regime.

But let's not pretend we are one of the worst run clubs in terms of finances, because we're not. There are dozens of clubs in the EFL are run far worse than we are and just around the corner from serious trouble, that can't be said about us. So I wouldn't say the finances of the club are in a huge mess, in comparison to other clubs.

I wasn't saying we were the worst but the only reason we aren't bust is because Tan is propping us up and i cant believe after everything that has gone on and his desire to get the club on an even keel that this type of signing was sanctioned.


Yeah, agree on that - a bizarre signing.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:33 pm

Yes Campbell is is waste of money,but we have done it for years on a bigger scale sometimes-Cornelius and Murphy.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:06 pm

Well we really have to hope we've turned a corner and the current of signings are an improvement.qpr was shockingly poor really hoping for a big response tomorrow

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:44 pm

Problem is that our club kept on firing managers left and right. Thats why it was harsh on morison because he did a huge job in clearing out the dead wood players in the team and bringing in younger players from our academy and in the transfer market with limited funds. And before you knew it Morison got the boot before he could make the 1st team his own. I always think that he alongside Hudson would off made a great pairing for cardiff going foreward. Yes some might think he was never good but he was always learning every game he managed alongside hudson of course. So yeah.

We only have got poor players because Morison got the boot too early.
I think players like Sawyers, Simpson and Ojo should leave as they are poor players.
And bring in players like Regan Poole or a Tom Bradshaw from Millwall to give our team more goals.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:57 am

I can't blame Morison or Hudson as they should never have been in that position, if you offered it to me I'd have taken it.

I argued at the time that I wasn't against Moroson per se, just his sudden promotion from aged grade football to running a championship football club was just a blind hit-and-hope appointment.

A lot of last season's transfers were "hail Marys", just punts from an inexperienced team that thought its shit or bust time.

O'Dowda and Robinson were both championship-grade and internationals at minor nations so were the safe bets the rest were gambles. A club that wanted to play a passing game then signed Ronomhota and Adams with Sawyers with incomprehensible

Vontae Daly-Campbell is similar to Ojo, a good teen who played for England U16~U19 but never kicked on. How anyone could offer him £900K contract based on a few apperarances for Dundee is beyond me,

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:01 am

theclaw wrote:Yes Campbell is is waste of money,but we have done it for years on a bigger scale sometimes-Cornelius and Murphy.


Yes they were.To judge this fairly though you've got to take off the hindsight goggles.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:58 am

i'm very torn on this subject, looking at the players Morison did bring in last season, Romeo, Adams, Tanner (looking the business now finally) Alnwick, Jamilu Collins, O'Dowda, Rinomhota, Sawyers (seen flashes) Robinson, Kipre, Philogene, all were good signings, and i think are good players, he had most of the signings spot on,

Jack Simpson, Etete (jury still out) Ojo,Vontae, Allsop (don't know if i have missed any)

in my opinion 11 good players there, and 3 poor signings. thats not a bad record for a man in his first ever management position building his first ever squad, forget the fact he was arrogant and any personal views of Morison, thats a very good start for your job. and its not like he had to bring in 3 or 4, he had a whole squad.

On to Vontae, i think the big thing missing is the fact there seems to be a quote from Bulut, which states Vontae refused to go out on loan and has no intention of leaving, or something alone those lines, now i don't blame him, because we haven't been given the full picture, for all we know he might have said, look i want to stay fight for my place, he might have said, my agent is in talks with a league one side.

but my big issue is, if people are complaining about Morison buying players in that didn't turn out well, i hope they put the same issues towards Warnock, Malky, and Co, because they spent far more money and wages on and brought in far more rubbish in their time.

Dave Jones is the only manager i can remember who knew how to really spot a player, and work well with a budget on transfer fees etc

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:23 am

bluebird04 wrote:i'm very torn on this subject, looking at the players Morison did bring in last season, Romeo, Adams, Tanner (looking the business now finally) Alnwick, Jamilu Collins, O'Dowda, Rinomhota, Sawyers (seen flashes) Robinson, Kipre, Philogene, all were good signings, and i think are good players, he had most of the signings spot on,

Jack Simpson, Etete (jury still out) Ojo,Vontae, Allsop (don't know if i have missed any)

in my opinion 11 good players there, and 3 poor signings. thats not a bad record for a man in his first ever management position building his first ever squad, forget the fact he was arrogant and any personal views of Morison, thats a very good start for your job. and its not like he had to bring in 3 or 4, he had a whole squad.

On to Vontae, i think the big thing missing is the fact there seems to be a quote from Bulut, which states Vontae refused to go out on loan and has no intention of leaving, or something alone those lines, now i don't blame him, because we haven't been given the full picture, for all we know he might have said, look i want to stay fight for my place, he might have said, my agent is in talks with a league one side.

but my big issue is, if people are complaining about Morison buying players in that didn't turn out well, i hope they put the same issues towards Warnock, Malky, and Co, because they spent far more money and wages on and brought in far more rubbish in their time.

Dave Jones is the only manager i can remember who knew how to really spot a player, and work well with a budget on transfer fees etc



But 4th from bottom and not relegated due to Reading, they played for two managers and still ended up 4th from Bottom?

Erol Bulut, does not seem to be starting many of them?

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:18 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:
theclaw wrote:Yes Campbell is is waste of money,but we have done it for years on a bigger scale sometimes-Cornelius and Murphy.


Yes they were.To judge this fairly though you've got to take off the hindsight goggles.


Never wrong with hindsight.

Start of last season we were a decent striker away from a good start. Fans were buzzing, pretty much like they are now and jt turned with results…. As it has already with some and will continue to do so if results don’t pick up.

We aren’t patient fans.

Re: Costing Cardiff thousands, another player a waste of spa

Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:18 am

bluebird04 wrote:i'm very torn on this subject, looking at the players Morison did bring in last season, Romeo, Adams, Tanner (looking the business now finally) Alnwick, Jamilu Collins, O'Dowda, Rinomhota, Sawyers (seen flashes) Robinson, Kipre, Philogene, all were good signings, and i think are good players, he had most of the signings spot on,

Jack Simpson, Etete (jury still out) Ojo,Vontae, Allsop (don't know if i have missed any)

in my opinion 11 good players there, and 3 poor signings. thats not a bad record for a man in his first ever management position building his first ever squad, forget the fact he was arrogant and any personal views of Morison, thats a very good start for your job. and its not like he had to bring in 3 or 4, he had a whole squad.

On to Vontae, i think the big thing missing is the fact there seems to be a quote from Bulut, which states Vontae refused to go out on loan and has no intention of leaving, or something alone those lines, now i don't blame him, because we haven't been given the full picture, for all we know he might have said, look i want to stay fight for my place, he might have said, my agent is in talks with a league one side.

but my big issue is, if people are complaining about Morison buying players in that didn't turn out well, i hope they put the same issues towards Warnock, Malky, and Co, because they spent far more money and wages on and brought in far more rubbish in their time.

Dave Jones is the only manager i can remember who knew how to really spot a player, and work well with a budget on transfer fees etc


Good post.