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kyle08 wrote:in fairness you got to start somewhere and one good season he will be in a league club i dont doubt that either
Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:09 pm
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Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:08 pm
Bellamys barmy army wrote:kyle08 wrote:in fairness you got to start somewhere and one good season he will be in a league club i dont doubt that either
He was given the chance to have a good season with pontypridd in the welsh prem though whilst still being at a championship club? That’s probably the same standard he’s signed for now. Maybe he thought and others made him out to be better than what he is and Cardiff actually knew what they were doing with him
Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:16 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Bellamys barmy army wrote:kyle08 wrote:in fairness you got to start somewhere and one good season he will be in a league club i dont doubt that either
He was given the chance to have a good season with pontypridd in the welsh prem though whilst still being at a championship club? That’s probably the same standard he’s signed for now. Maybe he thought and others made him out to be better than what he is and Cardiff actually knew what they were doing with him
Pontypridd![]()
I stand by Purse is actually not helping our youngsters come through.
And NO to Welsh league clubs.
Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:20 pm
Bellamys barmy army wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Bellamys barmy army wrote:kyle08 wrote:in fairness you got to start somewhere and one good season he will be in a league club i dont doubt that either
He was given the chance to have a good season with pontypridd in the welsh prem though whilst still being at a championship club? That’s probably the same standard he’s signed for now. Maybe he thought and others made him out to be better than what he is and Cardiff actually knew what they were doing with him
Pontypridd![]()
I stand by Purse is actually not helping our youngsters come through.
And NO to Welsh league clubs.
I'm not sure why you think the Welsh Prem is such bad quality? Lennon is now playing in the 7th tier of the English pyramid which is in no way better than the Welsh Prem.
Newport signed Will Evans from Bala town in the summer for example, 24 years of age and he has 8 goals in 9 games in the 4th tier and has taken to it like a duck to water. Maybe if Lennon got his head down and got his fitness up there he would have got a chance.
Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:31 pm
Forever Blue wrote:As I said before Lennon was never given a chance by Purse and neither did Purse rate Tanner, so sent him out to York City.
Lennon was carrying a slight injury and needs to prove he is totally fit and injury clear.
He will get fit at for Morison, but has agreed once fit if a bigger club comes in he can join them.
Remember 2 yrs of injuries.
I will stand by this Lennon will be eventually playing league football.
Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:40 pm
jimmy_rat wrote:Forever Blue wrote:As I said before Lennon was never given a chance by Purse and neither did Purse rate Tanner, so sent him out to York City.
Lennon was carrying a slight injury and needs to prove he is totally fit and injury clear.
He will get fit at for Morison, but has agreed once fit if a bigger club comes in he can join them.
Remember 2 yrs of injuries.
I will stand by this Lennon will be eventually playing league football.
'League football' ... that's a bit different to Premier League football and straight in to our first team as was mentioned when he signed though.
He might be a nice kid, a friend and come from a good family.
The fact is, as a City fan. He refused to do what was asked of him. He could have and should have gone on loan. Played men's football, proved fitness and ability. And maybe, just maybe, he could be our Tanner now.
Stinks of bad advice to me.
Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:50 pm
Forever Blue wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:Forever Blue wrote:As I said before Lennon was never given a chance by Purse and neither did Purse rate Tanner, so sent him out to York City.
Lennon was carrying a slight injury and needs to prove he is totally fit and injury clear.
He will get fit at for Morison, but has agreed once fit if a bigger club comes in he can join them.
Remember 2 yrs of injuries.
I will stand by this Lennon will be eventually playing league football.
'League football' ... that's a bit different to Premier League football and straight in to our first team as was mentioned when he signed though.
He might be a nice kid, a friend and come from a good family.
The fact is, as a City fan. He refused to do what was asked of him. He could have and should have gone on loan. Played men's football, proved fitness and ability. And maybe, just maybe, he could be our Tanner now.
Stinks of bad advice to me.
And yes he was suppose to sign in January 1st and due to Peope not telling him we were under an embargo, he had to wait 2 months to play for us.
Then when he did 7 games 5 goals / 3 assists but guess what Purse without Bulut ever seeing him it’s Pontypridd next season for a season.
It’s not about nice kid, he has the ability, your not with West Ham for 14 yrs if your not good?
Horrific Injuries for 2 yrs ruined his career at the top.
I will stand by this, Lennon will end up at a high level, if he stays injury free.
Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:53 pm
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Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:01 pm
Paul Keevil wrote:An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.
Hornchurch play at tier 7
I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10
There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views
Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:07 pm
jimmy_rat wrote:Paul Keevil wrote:An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.
Hornchurch play at tier 7
I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10
There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views
No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.
It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.
A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.
In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.
Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:13 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:Paul Keevil wrote:An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.
Hornchurch play at tier 7
I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10
There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views
No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.
It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.
A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.
In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.
You’re pretty much spot on with this in my opinion. He should have stayed, knuckled down and then … who knows?
I’d never heard of him before I read about some on here raving about him. He’s 21 and should be playing in a first team at championship or league 1 level by now as is always being preached on here.
Hopefully, he’ll still carve a career for himself and I’d certainly wish him good luck.
Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:37 pm
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Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:34 pm
Paul Keevil wrote:I guess using the same example he may have felt we were not exactly giving him a reason to stay so instead he chose to play for a side which is only 13 miles from his family home in West ham?
I guess he's probably chosen to be close to home, play for a local club, get fit, and transfer somewhere else in a years time
Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:21 pm
jimmy_rat wrote:Paul Keevil wrote:An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.
Hornchurch play at tier 7
I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10
There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views
No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.
It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.
A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.
In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.
Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:31 pm
Sven wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:Paul Keevil wrote:An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.
Hornchurch play at tier 7
I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10
There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views
No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.
It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.
A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.
In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.
Ah, so here we have someone who dislikes the term the 'usual suspects' calling others, uhm, the 'usual suspects'...![]()
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What you clearly missed is that Lennon was let down by our club on a number of levels, not just the playing side but I doubt very much you will accept any of it. As usual, you dismiss anything you don't see/hear with your own eyes/ears as 'rubbish'
I have limited but sound knowledge of the Lennon Peake story and I will stand by what I know to be the story of his time at the CCS, where the club actually wanted him to stay for this current season; albeit involving a loan deal to build up competitive game time. To this extent, they even offered him a season at Vincent Tan's KV Kjortvik to further assess his progress...
Steve Morison was one of the reasons he came to the CCS, he rated him exceptionally highly, so it's not surprising he has been persuaded to play for Hornchurch in an effort to raise his game to the levels his early promise showed...
The Bluebirds continue to monitor his progress, so it's not impossible he might come back...
Sorry it that disappoints you...!![]()
Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:35 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:Paul Keevil wrote:An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.
Hornchurch play at tier 7
I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10
There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views
No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.
It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.
A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.
In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.
Ah, so here we have someone who dislikes the term the 'usual suspects' calling others, uhm, the 'usual suspects'...![]()
![]()
What you clearly missed is that Lennon was let down by our club on a number of levels, not just the playing side but I doubt very much you will accept any of it. As usual, you dismiss anything you don't see/hear with your own eyes/ears as 'rubbish'
I have limited but sound knowledge of the Lennon Peake story and I will stand by what I know to be the story of his time at the CCS, where the club actually wanted him to stay for this current season; albeit involving a loan deal to build up competitive game time. To this extent, they even offered him a season at Vincent Tan's KV Kjortvik to further assess his progress...
Steve Morison was one of the reasons he came to the CCS, he rated him exceptionally highly, so it's not surprising he has been persuaded to play for Hornchurch in an effort to raise his game to the levels his early promise showed...
The Bluebirds continue to monitor his progress, so it's not impossible he might come back...
Sorry it that disappoints you...!![]()
Spot on Chris,
The usual suspects enjoying and hoping Lennon fails, very sad.
Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:38 pm
Bellamys barmy army wrote:Signed for Hornchurch FC
Interesting that Glen Williams gets slagged regularly for hyping younger players who maybe aren’t as good as some make out
Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:51 pm
jimmy_rat wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:Paul Keevil wrote:An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.
Hornchurch play at tier 7
I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10
There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views
No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.
It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.
A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.
In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.
Ah, so here we have someone who dislikes the term the 'usual suspects' calling others, uhm, the 'usual suspects'...![]()
![]()
What you clearly missed is that Lennon was let down by our club on a number of levels, not just the playing side but I doubt very much you will accept any of it. As usual, you dismiss anything you don't see/hear with your own eyes/ears as 'rubbish'
I have limited but sound knowledge of the Lennon Peake story and I will stand by what I know to be the story of his time at the CCS, where the club actually wanted him to stay for this current season; albeit involving a loan deal to build up competitive game time. To this extent, they even offered him a season at Vincent Tan's KV Kjortvik to further assess his progress...
Steve Morison was one of the reasons he came to the CCS, he rated him exceptionally highly, so it's not surprising he has been persuaded to play for Hornchurch in an effort to raise his game to the levels his early promise showed...
The Bluebirds continue to monitor his progress, so it's not impossible he might come back...
Sorry it that disappoints you...!![]()
Spot on Chris,
The usual suspects enjoying and hoping Lennon fails, very sad.
Haha. No one hopes he fails.
But I hope his attitude changes. I'm speaking as a City fan. Nothing else. I have no personal ties to the lad. You two need to take off the Lennon Peake tinted lenses.
I'll say again... good luck to the lad.
Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:11 pm
Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:13 pm
jimmy_rat wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:Paul Keevil wrote:An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.
Hornchurch play at tier 7
I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10
There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views
No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.
It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.
A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.
In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.
Ah, so here we have someone who dislikes the term the 'usual suspects' calling others, uhm, the 'usual suspects'...![]()
![]()
What you clearly missed is that Lennon was let down by our club on a number of levels, not just the playing side but I doubt very much you will accept any of it. As usual, you dismiss anything you don't see/hear with your own eyes/ears as 'rubbish'
I have limited but sound knowledge of the Lennon Peake story and I will stand by what I know to be the story of his time at the CCS, where the club actually wanted him to stay for this current season; albeit involving a loan deal to build up competitive game time. To this extent, they even offered him a season at Vincent Tan's KV Kjortvik to further assess his progress...
Steve Morison was one of the reasons he came to the CCS, he rated him exceptionally highly, so it's not surprising he has been persuaded to play for Hornchurch in an effort to raise his game to the levels his early promise showed...
The Bluebirds continue to monitor his progress, so it's not impossible he might come back...
Sorry it that disappoints you...!![]()
Spot on Chris,
The usual suspects enjoying and hoping Lennon fails, very sad.
Haha. No one hopes he fails.
But I hope his attitude changes. I'm speaking as a City fan. Nothing else. I have no personal ties to the lad. You two need to take off the Lennon Peake tinted lenses.
I'll say again... good luck to the lad.
Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:41 am