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Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:45 am
Safc in peace wrote:So how are we feeling as Sunderland fans?
Well, the first game I attended was 1968 and I have to say the football over the last 12 months has been the most enjoyable in all of that time. We are not at the level we’re we’re 30 odd years ago when we finished 7th in the Premier League, two years in a row, but the potential to get to the top flight is there,
Under the current owners we have a very clear plan. Search out the best young talent across Europe and sign them up for small fees with low wages. Develop them give them opportunities in the first team and increase their value before they are sold for a profit. That profit is then recycled into buying the next batch of even more talented kids and so on.
The type of players we are signing appear to fit a model, fast skilful players with a very high potential ceiling. Gone are the days of buying ex top flight players for large fees paying over the offs in terms of salary and getting zero commitment from them as we were their last paycheque.
The other part of the model is that we are picking up young players who have seen their potential not realised after being seen as “the next big thing” and giving them a second chance. Clarke being a prime example.
It seems to be working so far and this summer we have brought in about 11 players and if you exclude Dack, they are all under 21, sold an injured soon to be out of contact forward to Southampton and made a profit in the window
So we are very happy as fans.
Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:19 am
Safc in peace wrote:So how are we feeling as Sunderland fans?
Well, the first game I attended was 1968 and I have to say the football over the last 12 months has been the most enjoyable in all of that time. We are not at the level we’re we’re 30 odd years ago when we finished 7th in the Premier League, two years in a row, but the potential to get to the top flight is there,
Under the current owners we have a very clear plan. Search out the best young talent across Europe and sign them up for small fees with low wages. Develop them give them opportunities in the first team and increase their value before they are sold for a profit. That profit is then recycled into buying the next batch of even more talented kids and so on.
The type of players we are signing appear to fit a model, fast skilful players with a very high potential ceiling. Gone are the days of buying ex top flight players for large fees paying over the offs in terms of salary and getting zero commitment from them as we were their last paycheque.
The other part of the model is that we are picking up young players who have seen their potential not realised after being seen as “the next big thing” and giving them a second chance. Clarke being a prime example.
It seems to be working so far and this summer we have brought in about 11 players and if you exclude Dack, they are all under 21, sold an injured soon to be out of contact forward to Southampton and made a profit in the window
So we are very happy as fans.
Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:44 am
Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:27 am
Barclay1 wrote:Making a weekend of it by watching Middlesbrough v Soton, Saturday; spending Sunday morning with my sister who lives in South shields then going to watch the game at the SOL in the afternoon.
Weve booked a place to stay overnight in Roker. Is the area within walking distance of the SOL?
Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:29 am
Sven wrote:Safc in peace wrote:So how are we feeling as Sunderland fans?
Well, the first game I attended was 1968 and I have to say the football over the last 12 months has been the most enjoyable in all of that time. We are not at the level we’re we’re 30 odd years ago when we finished 7th in the Premier League, two years in a row, but the potential to get to the top flight is there,
Under the current owners we have a very clear plan. Search out the best young talent across Europe and sign them up for small fees with low wages. Develop them give them opportunities in the first team and increase their value before they are sold for a profit. That profit is then recycled into buying the next batch of even more talented kids and so on.
The type of players we are signing appear to fit a model, fast skilful players with a very high potential ceiling. Gone are the days of buying ex top flight players for large fees paying over the offs in terms of salary and getting zero commitment from them as we were their last paycheque.
The other part of the model is that we are picking up young players who have seen their potential not realised after being seen as “the next big thing” and giving them a second chance. Clarke being a prime example.
It seems to be working so far and this summer we have brought in about 11 players and if you exclude Dack, they are all under 21, sold an injured soon to be out of contact forward to Southampton and made a profit in the window
So we are very happy as fans.
I have little doubt you are a Sunderland supporter, so welcome; and some good points made. I used to have dealings with a company in your area (DC) and know your supporters to be both amiable and loyal to your club...
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But David Marshall? Really...?![]()
Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:56 am
Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:28 am
Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:29 am
Safc in peace wrote:As the name suggests, I have popped on here for friendly debate not to get involved in any arguments. I also enjoy chatting or meeting opposition fans to get a good idea of how they think their team is playing and if they are visiting Sunderland to answer any questions about parking, pubs and so on.
I know you have a new manager and will be feelers my confident after beat Swansea at home for the first time in over ten years.
Arron Ramsey has returned to his roots, how has he settled and which players should Sunderland look out for?
I understand that you are playing more of a pressing game than last, how is that working out?
As far as Sunderland are concerned after losing the first two games we have won four and drawn one with eight different players, none of them forwards getting on the scoresheet.
Mowbray has us playing a fast passing game with several players willing to run at the defence.
The team is the youngest in the Championship and full of confidence. However we may still be missing Ekwah who has been outstanding so far this season.
If you want to listen to a pre game podcast there are several bit a good starting point is the What the Falk podcast which has just posted a preview with a Cardiff fan giving their thoughts on the game.
Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:54 am
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Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:56 pm
Safc in peace wrote:Sven wrote:Safc in peace wrote:So how are we feeling as Sunderland fans?
Well, the first game I attended was 1968 and I have to say the football over the last 12 months has been the most enjoyable in all of that time. We are not at the level we’re we’re 30 odd years ago when we finished 7th in the Premier League, two years in a row, but the potential to get to the top flight is there,
Under the current owners we have a very clear plan. Search out the best young talent across Europe and sign them up for small fees with low wages. Develop them give them opportunities in the first team and increase their value before they are sold for a profit. That profit is then recycled into buying the next batch of even more talented kids and so on.
The type of players we are signing appear to fit a model, fast skilful players with a very high potential ceiling. Gone are the days of buying ex top flight players for large fees paying over the offs in terms of salary and getting zero commitment from them as we were their last paycheque.
The other part of the model is that we are picking up young players who have seen their potential not realised after being seen as “the next big thing” and giving them a second chance. Clarke being a prime example.
It seems to be working so far and this summer we have brought in about 11 players and if you exclude Dack, they are all under 21, sold an injured soon to be out of contact forward to Southampton and made a profit in the window
So we are very happy as fans.
I have little doubt you are a Sunderland supporter, so welcome; and some good points made. I used to have dealings with a company in your area (DC) and know your supporters to be both amiable and loyal to your club...
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But David Marshall? Really...?![]()
Sadly not that David Marshall. Yes I get the DC revenue Washington in the traditional Durham County, which is actual where I live. Which company do you have dealings with?
Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:55 pm
Sven wrote:Safc in peace wrote:Sven wrote:Safc in peace wrote:So how are we feeling as Sunderland fans?
Well, the first game I attended was 1968 and I have to say the football over the last 12 months has been the most enjoyable in all of that time. We are not at the level we’re we’re 30 odd years ago when we finished 7th in the Premier League, two years in a row, but the potential to get to the top flight is there,
Under the current owners we have a very clear plan. Search out the best young talent across Europe and sign them up for small fees with low wages. Develop them give them opportunities in the first team and increase their value before they are sold for a profit. That profit is then recycled into buying the next batch of even more talented kids and so on.
The type of players we are signing appear to fit a model, fast skilful players with a very high potential ceiling. Gone are the days of buying ex top flight players for large fees paying over the offs in terms of salary and getting zero commitment from them as we were their last paycheque.
The other part of the model is that we are picking up young players who have seen their potential not realised after being seen as “the next big thing” and giving them a second chance. Clarke being a prime example.
It seems to be working so far and this summer we have brought in about 11 players and if you exclude Dack, they are all under 21, sold an injured soon to be out of contact forward to Southampton and made a profit in the window
So we are very happy as fans.
I have little doubt you are a Sunderland supporter, so welcome; and some good points made. I used to have dealings with a company in your area (DC) and know your supporters to be both amiable and loyal to your club...
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But David Marshall? Really...?![]()
Sadly not that David Marshall. Yes I get the DC revenue Washington in the traditional Durham County, which is actual where I live. Which company do you have dealings with?
Most of my extended family are from Durham (most in the Pity Me area) and own businesses up there. One of them was a manager with Hillarys in Washington and I had some dealings. I'm up next for the Remembrance Parade at Durham Cathedral in November, the next best to London IMHO...
Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:32 pm