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EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:26 pm

An angry Erol Bulut vented his frustrations at Cardiff City's substitutes following their capitulation in the defeat by Norwich City.


“We didn't have much help from our substitutions today."


Cardiff were in control of the match at 2-1 before Bulut rang the chances, with the likes of Ryan Wintle, Ollie Tanner, Rubin Colwill and Kion Etete being introduced late on in the tie. However, they failed to make any impact and Bulut believes an element of complacency, as well as the looming international break, might have played its part in Cardiff ending the game 3-2 behind.


EROL BULUT:


"Today we saw two different 45 minutes," Bulut said. "First half, we dominated. With that, we conceded a goal from the corner kick and we came back with two goals and we could score three or even four. But the game is 90 minutes. Second half, I was expecting how we finished the first half. We couldn't put that performance on the field.


"Also, today, our substitution players didn't really help us. In previous weeks that was different, when we made changes, they brought us points. Tonight was not like this and that was also the key to how we lost the game 3-2. You can lose a game but not how we showed in the last 25 minutes.

"We didn't fight. We didn't concentrate. We lost the ball too quickly and allowed the opponent some chances. We knew exactly what they would do with long balls behind us. Some players were not concentrated enough."


Asked specifically why he thought the substitutes struggled, he added: "Maybe it's because of the international break? I don't know.

"I don't know. You have a few days free. You are 2-1 in front, maybe you are more relaxed? I don't know. I am thinking like that. So maybe, the players are different. You can lose a game, but not how we lost it in the last 25 minutes. This makes me angry."

Clearly, the manager was disappointed by the manner of the defeat, they did similar away to Ipswich Town earlier in the season. But to concede two goals from set pieces, an area of the game they have prided themselves on this season, is a particularly bitter pill for Bulut to swallow.


"For me it was clear," he said of the Bowler penalty. "I don't want to speak about the referee. I spoke with the fourth official enough on the touchline. But nothing changed. It was not only the penalty, there were a few other fouls, so what can we change?

"For me it was a clear penalty, because the same foul, Rallsy made in the centre, they gave a yellow card. The penalty was harder.

"One decision? OK. Two OK, but when there were so many against us, I lose control. I cannot stay quiet always and just watch what was going on. Before, in previous games, we have lost points and I don't want to come on to that subject and I haven't spoken about that subject. But something has to change. Why always against us?"
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Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:33 pm

Agree with all of that. Other than Colwill, substitutes were poor - especially Tanner.

Glad he spoke out against the ref. It’s difficult in these circumstances.

But he’s right, it was poor second half from us.

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:38 pm

Spot on, zero energy from quite a few players who looked on holiday already.

Cameras there today so im guessing its the main game on a highlight program to me 3 goal first pass looked miles off side and the Pen looked stonewall, he beat the man and got taken out

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:41 pm

BBC

Cardiff manager Erol Bulut:

"Today we saw two different 45 minutes. First half, we dominated. With that, we conceded a goal from the corner and we came back with two goals and could score three or even four.

"But the game is 90-95 minutes. I was expecting in the second half how we finished the first half. We couldn't put that performance on the field.

"Also, today our substitution players didn't really help us. In previous weeks that was different, they brought us points. That was also the key to how we lost the game 3-2. You can lose a game but not how we showed in the last 25 minutes.

"We didn't fight. We didn't concentrate. We lost the ball too quickly and allowed the opponent some chances."
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Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:42 pm

Logie wrote:Spot on, zero energy from quite a few players who looked on holiday already.

Cameras there today so im guessing its the main game on a highlight program to me 3 goal first pass looked miles off side and the Pen looked stonewall, he beat the man and got taken out



Was it on the red button? I put a couple of quid on us with Paddy Power and was surprised it said red button

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:05 pm

Etete looked uninterested today and a lot of players looked off the pace. Worst game for Siopsis too and no shock we lost, was coming since the 46th minute

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:16 pm

Yes a lot of players were below par today but Bulut needs to look in the mirror and take some responsibility for today's performance instead of blaming his players, especially the younger ones.

Sat back in the second half instead of going for a 3rd and 4th goal against a team low in confidence after 4 defeats.

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:48 pm

What could he do

Wintle- never convinced with him as an 8, loves a backwards pass too much for me
Etete- Struggles against big dominant championship level centre halfs
Ugbo- never a target man nor winger, so not sure what he is
Adams- L1 stopper, doesn't look comfortable taking the ball in coverage
Sawyers- Legs gone, too slow
Panzo- center half
Colwill- needs the team to be on the front foot
Tanner- Living off the Jack goal, hasn't done anything of note since

We desperately need a starting 9 and 8

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:33 pm

Can't see why ralls can't play 90 mons not as if he runs all over the pitch.Romeo was poor most of their play was down his side and their winger was skinning him but can't blame to much as he hasn't played enough. If you look they were poor goals to give away defensive nievity, but we plated like that in all our games at home gone in front and then sat back thinking we hit on the break but we never do and the other side get more and more of the ball and grow in confidence. I'd rather we went for it and if we get caught out at least we have momentum,if we sit and get caught we can't get up to our previous speed.

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sun Nov 12, 2023 12:15 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:Agree with all of that. Other than Colwill, substitutes were poor - especially Tanner.

Glad he spoke out against the ref. It’s difficult in these circumstances.

But he’s right, it was poor second half from us.


Spot On ,

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:47 am

llan bluebird wrote:What could he do

Wintle- never convinced with him as an 8, loves a backwards pass too much for me
Etete- Struggles against big dominant championship level centre halfs
Ugbo- never a target man nor winger, so not sure what he is
Adams- L1 stopper, doesn't look comfortable taking the ball in coverage
Sawyers- Legs gone, too slow
Panzo- center half
Colwill- needs the team to be on the front foot
Tanner- Living off the Jack goal, hasn't done anything of note since

We desperately need a starting 9 and 8


You are precisely hitting the nail on the head.

We need more than what we have at the moment come January. I feel we do need a striker but not moore and we definitely need a proper playmaker when ramsey can't do it.

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:49 am

If Grant scores when he was put thru , game over but he didn’t control the ball and waited until goalie was close before shooting. Not sure why linesman didn’t flag for the push on Bowler , clear penalty.

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:54 am

I posted this on fb this morning:

"Our team is like a child growing up. While growing up the child learns who are their friends or not. They learn their strengths and their weaknesses. If they learn while growing up they end up with a good set of friends and a balanced life as they have focused on their strengths and work on their weaknesses. Our team Cardiff is growing up."

This is why I will be happy just surviving this season. The sooner we hit the survival point, usually 42, the better. Once we have done then we can work on our weaknesses and that being offloading a few players. The good part of all this is I believe we know our strengths and they can only get better.

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:03 am

actionman wrote:Can't see why ralls can't play 90 mons not as if he runs all over the pitch.Romeo was poor most of their play was down his side and their winger was skinning him but can't blame to much as he hasn't played enough. If you look they were poor goals to give away defensive nievity, but we plated like that in all our games at home gone in front and then sat back thinking we hit on the break but we never do and the other side get more and more of the ball and grow in confidence. I'd rather we went for it and if we get caught out at least we have momentum,if we sit and get caught we can't get up to our previous speed.



Agree entirely with your comment!

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:28 am

Why make three substitutions at the same time? It takes time to get into the game so to have three like for like players coming on cold when you are a goal up and only 18 minutes left seems mad. Admittedly Norwich were on top but we were a goal up rather than chasing the game and none of the players taken off were playing badly nor look tired.

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:41 am

JJ1927 wrote:Why make three substitutions at the same time? It takes time to get into the game so to have three like for like players coming on cold when you are a goal up and only 18 minutes left seems mad. Admittedly Norwich were on top but we were a goal up rather than chasing the game and none of the players taken off were playing badly nor look tired.


Unfortunately that is one of Buluts weaknesses substitutions, he already knows his substitutes for our next game against Preston, whereas Wagner could see the fullbacks were being given the runaround and withdrew the two of them at half time, and went on to win the game.

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:56 am

JJ1927

Correct as are other posters above.
No need to sub for the sake of it! Many of the players have a 2 week break so why can't they play 90 minutes? Are they fit enough? Of course they are!

Meite was giving their back 4 grief and should've stayed on.

CR47 was playing well and causing them problems. And he scored.

Bowler same as CR47.

The changes killed it and lost us momentum and some key stone cops defending combined with weakness down Romeos flank cost the game.

Bulut has to take responsibility as the changes were not necessary and certainly not all at once. :-(

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:36 pm

The performance level did go backwards following the triple substitutions.
I find it annoying how Ralls can't seem to last more than an hour.
In addition, Bowler and Robinson were running Norwich ragged at times. Were both of them knackered after the first hour as well? If so, perhaps we have a fitness issue.
I'm wondering if both Tanner and Colwill were the best choice at that stage as Norwich were in the ascendency.
In hindsight, perhaps we should have tightened up the midfield area and certainly provided more support for Romeo who was struggling.
Erol was annoyed at the end, but he may be regretting his substitution decisions on the quiet!

Re: EROL BULUT FUMING/ ANGRY WITH HIS SUBSTITUTES

Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:50 pm

Norwich used a quick and effective high press which often included the front five.We completely beat this once or twice using a ball straight up the middle to feet which completely buggered them.I said to my son "now we've worked them out" but for the life of me I don't know why we persisted going up the sides where they started to turn us over.To their credit they did their homework against us and sadly we were unable to adapt.