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CONFIRMED: “ 10 point deduction “

Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:03 pm

Confirmed:

Sky Sports News:

Everton have been deducted 10 points for a breach of profit and sustainability rules. Everton say they are "shocked and disappointed" by the ruling and have vowed to appeal.




Daily Mail:

Everton are stunned by a TEN-POINT deduction for breaking Premier League financial rules, which plunges them down to second-bottom of the table, as Blues plot an immediate appeal





Updated:


Two different media reporters:

Thank Luz 3 Sports sites and The Telegraph.



EXCL: Everton set to receive -12 Points deduction by the end of this week due to a breach of financial fair play. Commissioners have decided. Everton will be bottom of the PL with 2 points. #EFC


It’s being reported:

UPDATE #LUFC as being reported Everton football club are set to receive a - 12 point deduction. Leeds will take legal action and sue Everton football club.

Along with Leicester and Burnley as well.
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Re: “ 12 point deduction “

Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:10 pm

This is going to be fun.

Re: “ 12 point deduction “

Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:19 pm

What's this all about? Nothing on the BBC website that I can find.

Re: “ 12 point deduction “

Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:23 pm

EXCL: Everton set to receive -12 Points deduction by the end of this week due to a breach of financial fair play. Commissioners have decided. Everton will be bottom of the PL with 2 points. #EFC
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Re: Updated: “ 12 point deduction “

Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:35 pm

What will happen to Everton next after Premier League points deduction 'threat'
The independent commission will decide upon any potential sanctions against Everton in their Financial Fair Play case, not the Premier League
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Regardless of what the Premier League are 'recommending' in Everton’s Financial Fair Play case - it will be the independent commission who decide on any potential sanctions if the club were to be found guilty of any breaches of rules.

An article published by the Daily Telegraph on Wednesday claims “the Premier League has recommended the punishment to be extremely severe, and up to a maximum of 12 points,” adding that: “Everton’s case is currently being heard by an independent commission after they recorded financial losses of £371.8million over a three-year period, which is well over the permitted amount of £105million set out by the Premier League.”

If found guilty, the club are facing a number of potential other sanctions, including a fine and/or a potential transfer embargo but Everton have stressed they have complied with the rules and insist they will “robustly defend” their position, arguing that exemptions, including those related to the coronavirus crisis, will clear them of any wrongdoing.

The ECHO understands that the independent commission – not the Premier League – holds full sway when it comes to the final decision-making process.



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In the event of a breach being found, the next step would be that the commission decide upon any sanctions and if any sanctions such as a points deduction were agreed upon then it would also be at the discretion of the commission to decide upon which season to impose them, whether that be current, retrospectively (the charge relates to the 2021/22 season) or in a future campaign.

Given that Norwich City, Watford and Burnley were relegated that season and the latter have subsequently been promoted again that potentially brings extra complications although the gap between Everton and Norwich City was 17 points and the Blues finished 15 points above Watford.

Portsmouth are the only Premier League club to have points taken off them for a financial matter having been deducted nine for entering administration in 2009/10, a season they would have finished bottom of the table regardless but the status of Everton’s case is unprecedented and there is no clear indication to the potential timeframe of the decision-making process which will also be up to the commission.

Although Everton face a single charge, Manchester City, Premier League champions for the past three seasons, have been charged with breaching 115 regulations over 14 seasons from 2009/10 to last season but no date has been fixed for th

At the time, the club announced that the closing of the transaction is expected to occur in the fourth quarter of 2023 and remains subject to regulatory approval. But any potential sanctions from the panel could result in further delays, with Everton having the option to pursue the Premier League’s Rule W.62 for appeals which relates to challenging a decision taken by a commission.

Re: Updated: “ 12 point deduction “

Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:56 pm

Not surprised by this. Man City’s charges are taking longer because there are so many and their lawyers are fighting it, but the PL have apparently talked about demoting them.

So a heavy points deduction was always likely for Everton as they had less charges against them.

Can’t blame the relegated clubs for wanting to take legal action, but it won’t succeed. Similar things have happened before and little legal action was successful.

Re: Updated: “ 12 point deduction “

Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:16 pm

If this goes ahead - Everton will still stay up - Due to how bad both Luton and Sheff Utd are with 1 other ...

Re: Updated: “ 12 point deduction “

Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:37 pm

Confirmed:

Everton have been deducted 10 points for a breach of profit and sustainability rules. Everton say they are "shocked and disappointed" by the ruling and have vowed to appeal.

Re: CONFIRMED: “ 10 point deduction “

Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:41 pm

Table updated:
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Re: CONFIRMED: “ 10 point deduction “

Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:42 pm

Questions will rightly be asked what is happening with similar cases against Chelsea and Manchester City.

Everton had one charge and have a ten point deduction. Manchester City have 115 charges against them so would surely be faced with relegation?

Re: CONFIRMED: “ 10 point deduction “

Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:46 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Questions will rightly be asked what is happening with similar cases against Chelsea and Manchester City.

Everton had one charge and have a ten point deduction. Manchester City have 115 charges against them so would surely be faced with relegation?



And they should be done Ned.

Many say they are getting away with it all the time.

Re: CONFIRMED: “ 10 point deduction “

Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:37 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Questions will rightly be asked what is happening with similar cases against Chelsea and Manchester City.

Everton had one charge and have a ten point deduction. Manchester City have 115 charges against them so would surely be faced with relegation?



And they should be done Ned.

Many say they are getting away with it all the time.


There are around 115 cases against Man City - As for Chelsea they have spent loads and tried to get around the way they do their deals in the contracts they come up with .

Re: CONFIRMED: “ 10 point deduction “

Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:37 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Questions will rightly be asked what is happening with similar cases against Chelsea and Manchester City.

Everton had one charge and have a ten point deduction. Manchester City have 115 charges against them so would surely be faced with relegation?



And they should be done Ned.

Many say they are getting away with it all the time.


There are around 115 cases against Man City - As for Chelsea they have spent loads and tried to get around the way they do their deals in the contracts they come up with .

Re: CONFIRMED: “ 10 point deduction “

Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:51 am

People need to remember that the City and Chelsea issues are still ongoing. The way City dodged the UEFA ban will make the FA double check everything to ensure City have no way out.
If Everton are hit with a 10 point penalty, for one offence, then City should receive at least an equal penalty per charge. They should also get an increasing level of penalty for the persistent charges over such a long time.
The sanctions should include stripping of all titles from the period of the charges and relegation from the premier League. If they are relegated, EFL rules would also likely exclude them from joining the football league. Meaning they should be thrown all the way to the very bottom of the football pyramid.
If they don't get sanctioned, then Everton would have a serious claim against the FA/Premier league for being treated unfairly.

Re: CONFIRMED: “ 10 point deduction “

Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:27 am

Put them both in National league.