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Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:16 am
Armenia v Wales
Updated:
Welsh Fans Embassy:
So far 32 Welsh fans arrested:
We are aware of issues near the liberty and bsrcode bars update is at least 3 fans now released awaiting news on the other 3..sounds like they were just too loud for the time in the morning and local police got involved.
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We are aware of issues near the liberty and bsrcode bars update is at least 3 fans now released awaiting news on the other 3..sounds like they were just too loud for the time in the morning and local police got involved.
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Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:18 am
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Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:21 am
Plus the night before a lone female Welsh fan was sexually attacked by her taxi driver as she tried to get a taxi back to her hotel.
Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:46 pm
There is always at least 4-5 Welsh police with the Welsh fans, where are they helping??
Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:46 pm
Aberbeeg Blues wrote:Plus the night before a lone female Welsh fan was sexually attacked by her taxi driver as she tried to get a taxi back to her hotel.
Yes I heard similar.
Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:09 pm
What a f*cking shithole
Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:49 pm
Don't travel to these places with brain dead police forces.
Why risk years in jail just for a football match.
Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:45 pm
32 were arrested for no reason but 25 or more, possibly all, have been released. Cops laughed at them and threatened them with six months sentences, no food/water or sleep. The foreign office needs to look at this, cops out of control and in it for the overtime no doubt, hence the arrests. Third World scum.
Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:12 pm
GrangeEndStar wrote:32 were arrested for no reason but 25 or more, possibly all, have been released. Cops laughed at them and threatened them with six months sentences, no food/water or sleep. The foreign office needs to look at this, cops out of control and in it for the overtime no doubt, hence the arrests. Third World scum.
It still baffles me how countries like that play in the European setup . If you look on the world map it’s a bit of a joke.
If I was uefa I’d f**k everything east of Ukraine and Greece off into the Asian setup. Having European finals hundreds of miles east of Baghdad , Jesus .
Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:26 pm
What was our Police presence like out there?
Every Wales away game I've been to had had our Police escorting us.
Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:40 pm
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We are aware of issues near the liberty and bsrcode bars update is at least 3 fans now released awaiting news on the other 3..sounds like they were just too loud for the time in the morning and local police got involved.
Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:43 pm
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Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:09 pm
More than 30 Wales football fans have been arrested in Armenia ahead of the European Championships qualifying game.
About 1,200 supporters are in the capital Yerevan for Saturday's match.
BBC
The Football Association of Wales (FAW) confirmed that 32 fans had been arrested, while the Foreign Office is involved.
South Wales Police officers in Yerevan said no action had been taken against the arrested fans and they were trying to find out what happened.
Supporter Lefi Gruffudd described anger, saying it was a total shock after he was arrested with a group of friends following an enjoyable night in the city.
Another fan suggested about 25 of them were put against a wall and teased about getting six-month sentences.
"The three of us were walking back towards the hotel last night quite late and police cars came straight up to us, took us into their cars, arrested us, kept us in custody until 3.30 this afternoon [Saturday]," Mr Gruffudd said.
Some fans said Armenian police teased them about being sentenced to six months
"They treated us insultingly, no water, no cell, nothing through the night.
"No explanation why we were arrested and we have been asking questions all the time but no answers. We haven't slept at all and we're angry."
He said: "It's a shock, we didn't expect this, we loved the place.
"We were very happy with the people in the bars last night, there was a very good atmosphere but this was a big shock for us all."
He added: "I found out that they claim that there was a fight between the Welsh fans but we know nothing about that obviously, and I doubt if that happened but that's the reason they give us."
Many are believed to have been arrested on Friday, with some released by 15:00 local time (11:00 GMT) on Saturday, ahead of the 18:00 kick-off time.
"I have to be honest with you. I'm still a bit miffed as to what happened," said another fan, Gerallt Dafydd.
He had been for a few drinks in a bar with a group of friends.
As they waited for a taxi, he described police coming "from absolutely nowhere", adding: "They were very aggressive and handcuffed us all.
"They chucked us into the back of a police car essentially and then even in the police car were quite violent in terms of striking myself in the face, in the back seats when I when I was talking, so it was a bit of a traumatic experience."
He described about 25 fans being put against a wall with police "taking photos and laughing and that was a common theme throughout".
Mr Dafydd described fans getting emotional as he believed officers were teasing them saying they would get sentences of six weeks or six months.
He was adamant that fans did nothing wrong, adding: "They basically gave us a statement in there to say 'OK, you've done nothing wrong. Sign here'."
In a statement, the FAW said: "We are aware of the situation and we are in regular discussions with the travelling police and FSA Cymru (Football Supporters' Association) monitoring the situation.
"FSA Cymru are the fan embassy who have contact with the local authorities as well as South Wales Police who are here to liaise with local law enforcement."
Supt Steve Rees of South Wales Police, who is in Armenia, said: "We are aware of an incident during the early hours of Saturday in Yerevan which resulted in 32 Welsh fans being arrested.
"We are working with the fan embassy and local law enforcement to find out exactly what has happened.
"Welsh fans have a good reputation when travelling abroad so this is very much out of the ordinary.
"A delegation of Welsh police officers will continue to be visible to the travelling fans during this away fixture, providing advice and helping to keep them safe."
The Foreign Office said: "We are supporting the families of a number of Welsh football fans in Armenia and are in contact with the local authorities."
The incident follows a warning from a female fan on Friday about a distressing taxi journey where the driver allegedly got in the back with her and asked for "sexual favours" instead of payment.
Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:22 pm
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Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:52 pm
Ramsey10 wrote:Don't travel to these places with brain dead police forces.
Why risk years in jail just for a football match.
Decent '
fans' have a right to follow their team without intimidation and clearly you weren't there to see what occurred, so butt out...!
To me, you're just another of those poor (reinvented) posters who feel you '
have' to comment where it's best you dont...!
Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:56 pm
Well I hope they have a full investigation into this.
Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:36 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Well I hope they have a full investigation into this.
There won’t unfortunately.
This sort of thing happens whenever we (or England/Scotland) go to these Eastern European/Asian nations and UEFA consistently do nothing, just sweep it under the carpet.
The UK Government and Foreign Office/David Cameron may make a short statement about it if they are asked by a Welsh MP but that will be it. They’ve got bigger problems right now. That’s nothing to do with the present government, as it’s the case with any administration.
It’s a disgrace, but it’s easy to predict that this is what will happen.
Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:11 am
I’m out here and to be fair I can’t comment on what’s happened in the news but we did get some aggro on Friday night from the police telling us that we’d be in a jail cell if we didn’t shut up. In fairness to them it was about the 4-5th time of asking us to be quiet so.
Not pointing fingers at anyone but we very quickly shut up and didn’t try and anything and we were fine.
Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:12 am
I think it’s to do with the fact that there are residential apartments all over the city centre over here unlike Cardiff.
Again I can’t say it’s an excuse to pin people down but it was close to being us so we just shut up and did what they said
Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:17 am
Locals have been incredibly nice, it’s only been through the grapevine that we’ve heard of trouble, honestly wouldn’t even have thought that there was a must win game on walking through Yerevan ahead of time:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:22 pm
Backward shithole
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