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Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:14 pm

What some are saying it’s down to Kieffer Moore, Not true at all , Kieffer wants to come and Bulut wants him and has spoken to him.

Bournemouth aim to structure the whole deal to their liking. Moore favours a Cardiff return .

City will have to splash the cash if they really want him.
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Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:43 pm

if we dont splash the cash then tan is just up to his old ways of being tight people forget the money we got for getting promoted yes we spent on some player but not as much as the prem earned us we just didnt invest in a team after it. if we dont get good players in this window what is the point just sell up

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:49 pm

Splash the cash is less risky and better with a forward as they hold thier values .

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:59 pm

How much do Bournemouth still owe us for Moore and when do they have to pay it by?

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:02 pm

New Day Rising wrote:Splash the cash is less risky and better with a forward as they hold thier values .


Whilst that’s true, it also has to be considered that Moore is 31.

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:11 pm

kyle08 wrote:if we dont splash the cash then tan is just up to his old ways of being tight people forget the money we got for getting promoted yes we spent on some player but not as much as the prem earned us we just didnt invest in a team after it. if we dont get good players in this window what is the point just sell up

That's rubbish; and just your opinion based on supposition...

You don't have to be pro-Tan to know that the club have had one hand (and often two) tied behind their back in recents seasons

Equally, anyone who actually pays reasonable attention to what's been going on at the club will see that not only have we had to recruit with no ability to pay fees for new players, we have had to dig deep to stay away from Financial Fair Play (FFP) breaches

January is the first transfer window in the last five that we have been able to spend and the owner along with Chairman Mehmet Dalman, has said money will be available in January 'for the right players at the right price' whilst still having to balance the books

It is well known that Keiffer wants to come back and I'm sure all involved at this end are trying hard to make it happen with FC Bournemouth's people (they don't need to convince Keiffer) within the constraints that continue to affect our club

Sorry if all that is a little too sensible but seemingly unlike you, I try to keep it real...! ;) :ayatollah:

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:20 pm

Didn't you say the deal was all done and dusted and it had been for ages ?

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:22 pm

Backtoblue wrote:Didn't you say the deal was all done and dusted and it had been for ages ?



With City and Moore yes, but Bournemouth have changed their minds on a couple of times and are asking for more money.

Until everything is signed in football right up to the ink is dried I have learned nothing is 100%

Deals are agreed verbally and that means nothing.

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:25 pm

I don't believe it sorry, not going to happen. If Moore leaves and Solanke gets injured who have Bournemouth got...

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:45 pm

Sven wrote:
kyle08 wrote:if we dont splash the cash then tan is just up to his old ways of being tight people forget the money we got for getting promoted yes we spent on some player but not as much as the prem earned us we just didnt invest in a team after it. if we dont get good players in this window what is the point just sell up

That's rubbish; and just your opinion based on supposition...

You don't have to be pro-Tan to know that the club have had one hand (and often two) tied behind their back in recents seasons

Equally, anyone who actually pays reasonable attention to what's been going on at the club will see that not only have we had to recruit with no ability to pay fees for new players, we have had to dig deep to stay away from Financial Fair Play (FFP) breaches

January is the first transfer window in the last five that we have been able to spend and the owner along with Chairman Mehmet Dalman, has said money will be available in January 'for the right players at the right price' whilstvstill having to balance the books

It is well known that Keiffer wants to come back and I'm sure all involved at this end are trying hard to make it happen with FC Bournemouth's people (they don't need to convince Keiffer) within the constraints that continue to affect our club

Sorry if all that is a little too sensible but seemingly unlike you, I try to keep it real...! ;) :ayatollah:

???? i do keep it real the club is run like a shitshow and i feel that if we dont spend and show ambition he should sell up i spend over 1k a season on season tickets not including costs for away and i like to voice my opinion on the club which is my right. i have paid close attention and all i see is tan loving the court system and putting us in this mess he should of paid up then chased it in court but no his ego got in his way and he had to put us in the worse position we have been in for years.

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:51 pm

I'd rather a plan b ASAP over this saga running on. We are desperate for a strimer this Saturday!!

Does anyone know if there's other strikers in the mix, or are all eggs in this deal??

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:53 pm

kyle08 wrote:
Sven wrote:
kyle08 wrote:if we dont splash the cash then tan is just up to his old ways of being tight people forget the money we got for getting promoted yes we spent on some player but not as much as the prem earned us we just didnt invest in a team after it. if we dont get good players in this window what is the point just sell up

That's rubbish; and just your opinion based on supposition...

You don't have to be pro-Tan to know that the club have had one hand (and often two) tied behind their back in recents seasons

Equally, anyone who actually pays reasonable attention to what's been going on at the club will see that not only have we had to recruit with no ability to pay fees for new players, we have had to dig deep to stay away from Financial Fair Play (FFP) breaches

January is the first transfer window in the last five that we have been able to spend and the owner along with Chairman Mehmet Dalman, has said money will be available in January 'for the right players at the right price' whilstvstill having to balance the books

It is well known that Keiffer wants to come back and I'm sure all involved at this end are trying hard to make it happen with FC Bournemouth's people (they don't need to convince Keiffer) within the constraints that continue to affect our club

Sorry if all that is a little too sensible but seemingly unlike you, I try to keep it real...! ;) :ayatollah:


Sorry if all that is a little too sensible but seemingly unlike you, I try to keep it real...! ???? i do keep it real the club is run like a shitshow and i feel that if we dont spend and show ambition he should sell up i spend over 1k a season on season tickets not including costs for away and i like to voice my opinion on the club which is my right. i have paid close attention and all i see is tan loving the court system and putting us in this mess he should of paid up then chased it in court but no his ego got in his way and he had to put us in the worse position we have been in for years.



Unfortunately you pay little attention to what has gone on at club... worse position mmmmm only you can say that ... as for settling up then go court well past week shows you why he didn't do that ... we all spend our money every season we all have opinions but need to be right or accurate with it.

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:56 pm

Backtoblue wrote:Didn't you say the deal was all done and dusted and it had been for ages ?

Yes, I did; and it's a fact from the Bluebird/Keiffer sides of the triangle; and all it needs now is the last element (Bournemouth) to complete said triangle

Don't doubt that Bournemouth are happy to let Keiffer leave; but of course, they will angle for the best possible deal for what is still their player

Glad you asked now? ;)

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:00 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
kyle08 wrote:
Sven wrote:
kyle08 wrote:if we dont splash the cash then tan is just up to his old ways of being tight people forget the money we got for getting promoted yes we spent on some player but not as much as the prem earned us we just didnt invest in a team after it. if we dont get good players in this window what is the point just sell up

That's rubbish; and just your opinion based on supposition...

You don't have to be pro-Tan to know that the club have had one hand (and often two) tied behind their back in recents seasons

Equally, anyone who actually pays reasonable attention to what's been going on at the club will see that not only have we had to recruit with no ability to pay fees for new players, we have had to dig deep to stay away from Financial Fair Play (FFP) breaches

January is the first transfer window in the last five that we have been able to spend and the owner along with Chairman Mehmet Dalman, has said money will be available in January 'for the right players at the right price' whilstvstill having to balance the books

It is well known that Keiffer wants to come back and I'm sure all involved at this end are trying hard to make it happen with FC Bournemouth's people (they don't need to convince Keiffer) within the constraints that continue to affect our club

Sorry if all that is a little too sensible but seemingly unlike you, I try to keep it real...! ;) :ayatollah:


Sorry if all that is a little too sensible but seemingly unlike you, I try to keep it real...! ???? i do keep it real the club is run like a shitshow and i feel that if we dont spend and show ambition he should sell up i spend over 1k a season on season tickets not including costs for away and i like to voice my opinion on the club which is my right. i have paid close attention and all i see is tan loving the court system and putting us in this mess he should of paid up then chased it in court but no his ego got in his way and he had to put us in the worse position we have been in for years.



Unfortunately you pay little attention to what has gone on at club... worse position mmmmm only you can say that ... as for settling up then go court well past week shows you why he didn't do that ... we all spend our money every season we all have opinions but need to be right or accurate with it.


so im wrong that the embargo could of been avoided by just paying the fee then fighting it after ? im also wrong that he kept hiring and firing inept managers to run this club and we got lucky to stay up ? im not saying he didnt have a case im saying he should of done it in a proper way by paying first then fighting

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:10 pm

SB 1927 wrote:I'd rather a plan b ASAP over this saga running on. We are desperate for a strimer this Saturday!!

Does anyone know if there's other strikers in the mix, or are all eggs in this deal??


Bulut said at the start of the month we are looking at three or four strikers.

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:10 pm

kyle08 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
kyle08 wrote:
Sven wrote:
kyle08 wrote:if we dont splash the cash then tan is just up to his old ways of being tight people forget the money we got for getting promoted yes we spent on some player but not as much as the prem earned us we just didnt invest in a team after it. if we dont get good players in this window what is the point just sell up

That's rubbish; and just your opinion based on supposition...

You don't have to be pro-Tan to know that the club have had one hand (and often two) tied behind their back in recents seasons

Equally, anyone who actually pays reasonable attention to what's been going on at the club will see that not only have we had to recruit with no ability to pay fees for new players, we have had to dig deep to stay away from Financial Fair Play (FFP) breaches

January is the first transfer window in the last five that we have been able to spend and the owner along with Chairman Mehmet Dalman, has said money will be available in January 'for the right players at the right price' whilstvstill having to balance the books

It is well known that Keiffer wants to come back and I'm sure all involved at this end are trying hard to make it happen with FC Bournemouth's people (they don't need to convince Keiffer) within the constraints that continue to affect our club

Sorry if all that is a little too sensible but seemingly unlike you, I try to keep it real...! ;) :ayatollah:


Sorry if all that is a little too sensible but seemingly unlike you, I try to keep it real...! ???? i do keep it real the club is run like a shitshow and i feel that if we dont spend and show ambition he should sell up i spend over 1k a season on season tickets not including costs for away and i like to voice my opinion on the club which is my right. i have paid close attention and all i see is tan loving the court system and putting us in this mess he should of paid up then chased it in court but no his ego got in his way and he had to put us in the worse position we have been in for years.



Unfortunately you pay little attention to what has gone on at club... worse position mmmmm only you can say that ... as for settling up then go court well past week shows you why he didn't do that ... we all spend our money every season we all have opinions but need to be right or accurate with it.


so im wrong that the embargo could of been avoided by just paying the fee then fighting it after ? im also wrong that he kept hiring and firing inept managers to run this club and we got lucky to stay up ? im not saying he didnt have a case im saying he should of done it in a proper way by paying first then fighting




You mean to say you want to have a debate on managers/embargo ect when would you like to go back to regarding worse position? Before tan mmmm high courts every other month before that was not exactly good times either ... tan been here 10+years we've either been in premier league or championship there are clubs that would love to have that kind of record.. pay up then fight welll you pay you admit he was our player as been discussed that was not the right thing to do as people have eluded to....just admit you hate tan and then we know where you stand and why you say the things you do.

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:14 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
SB 1927 wrote:I'd rather a plan b ASAP over this saga running on. We are desperate for a strimer this Saturday!!

Does anyone know if there's other strikers in the mix, or are all eggs in this deal??


Bulut said at the start of the month we are looking at three or four strikers.


:thumbup:

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:28 pm

Look he's not coming end of and let's move on I am sick and tired of reading about him to be honest.

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:30 pm

Earnestp wrote:Look he's not coming end of and let's move on I am sick and tired of reading about him to be honest.


:laughing5: that's the spirit

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:35 pm

Just telling you how it is buster grow up.

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:36 pm

For me the transfer window is a mixture of who you expect to sign and those that come out of the blue

Bulut wants 6 QUALITY PLAYERS

We might sign an expected player we might also miss out on a few

But, I suspect, most of our signings will be unexpected and for me that it's the fun of the transfer window.

I'm not worried about missing out on certain players. Bulut wants six players and whoever they are I am sure they will be quality players - and not the dross that were used to

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:38 pm

Earnestp wrote:Just telling you how it is buster grow up.


How it is, in your opinion. Unless you're negotiating the deal and I'm unaware, but I'm guessing you're not, treacle.

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:39 pm

kyle08 wrote:
Sven wrote:
kyle08 wrote:if we dont splash the cash then tan is just up to his old ways of being tight people forget the money we got for getting promoted yes we spent on some player but not as much as the prem earned us we just didnt invest in a team after it. if we dont get good players in this window what is the point just sell up

That's rubbish; and just your opinion based on supposition...

You don't have to be pro-Tan to know that the club have had one hand (and often two) tied behind their back in recents seasons

Equally, anyone who actually pays reasonable attention to what's been going on at the club will see that not only have we had to recruit with no ability to pay fees for new players, we have had to dig deep to stay away from Financial Fair Play (FFP) breaches

January is the first transfer window in the last five that we have been able to spend and the owner along with Chairman Mehmet Dalman, has said money will be available in January 'for the right players at the right price' whilstvstill having to balance the books

It is well known that Keiffer wants to come back and I'm sure all involved at this end are trying hard to make it happen with FC Bournemouth's people (they don't need to convince Keiffer) within the constraints that continue to affect our club

Sorry if all that is a little too sensible but seemingly unlike you, I try to keep it real...! ;) :ayatollah:

???? i do keep it real the club is run like a shitshow and i feel that if we dont spend and show ambition he should sell up i spend over 1k a season on season tickets not including costs for away and i like to voice my opinion on the club which is my right. i have paid close attention and all i see is tan loving the court system and putting us in this mess he should of paid up then chased it in court but no his ego got in his way and he had to put us in the worse position we have been in for years.

So, let's break this down into segments...

"The club is run like a shit show..."

It may well be your opinion but how do you justify that statement when most will tell you that despite his errors, the current owner has kept our beloved club alive...?

"If we don't spend and show ambition, he should sell up..."

Have you only scanned the contents of this Forum to suit your own agenda? We have not been able to spend (fees) for the last four windows, and prior to the FFP issue, he tended to back his managers; so how does that play out?

You "spend over one £1k a season on season tickets plus away games and I like to voice my opinion"

No issues with voicing your opinion but (a) I know people, including myself, who spend far more than that but it doesn't gives us a stake in how the club is run, as much as we'd like it to; but at least state your 'opinion' on a base of (even some) knowledge of what is actually going on at the club

"All i see is Tan loving the Court system and putting us in this mess he should of paid up then chased it in court"

On this point, I have some limited sympathy for what you say and there has been 'unnecessary' litigation regarding some matters. However, where the Michael Guy case was concerned, he was right; and where the Emiliano Sala case is concerned, it is increasingly apparent that our club may well have a fighting chance of regaining monies (and reputation) lost in recent times

What we do know is that our owner doesn't do losing well and will leave no stone unturned to 'win'; albeit that in some cases what a 'win' actually amounts to is debatable and even a 'stalemate' or 'out of Court' settlement may have been dressed up as said 'win'

He "put us in the worse position we have been in for years"

That one confuses me a little to be fair, so I ask you to explain when we were in a 'better' position before he arrived? You know, the point where he stepped in, saved the club, and took us to the Premier League twice (never been done before)?

I make no secret of my admiration for Sam Hammam as the starter of the 'new era' and my dream is to see him back in tandem with a wealthy benefactor like Vincent Tan; one running the football side and one the business side...

I'll leave you decide which should do which... ;)

All that aside, now let's look at this season where we have relatively successfully overhauled a failing squad with a new (proper) manager and a squad that has surprised us pleasantly in the main

Mehemet Dalman has reignited the boiler beneath the club and has to take some credit for that, surely? He guided us through said overhaul and is in the process of getting new players in; some of whom we will pay a fee for

I'm all for your right to an opinion; but don't get arsey when myself or others have theirs and disagree...! :ayatollah:

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:11 pm

Sven wrote:
kyle08 wrote:
Sven wrote:
kyle08 wrote:if we dont splash the cash then tan is just up to his old ways of being tight people forget the money we got for getting promoted yes we spent on some player but not as much as the prem earned us we just didnt invest in a team after it. if we dont get good players in this window what is the point just sell up

That's rubbish; and just your opinion based on supposition...

You don't have to be pro-Tan to know that the club have had one hand (and often two) tied behind their back in recents seasons

Equally, anyone who actually pays reasonable attention to what's been going on at the club will see that not only have we had to recruit with no ability to pay fees for new players, we have had to dig deep to stay away from Financial Fair Play (FFP) breaches

January is the first transfer window in the last five that we have been able to spend and the owner along with Chairman Mehmet Dalman, has said money will be available in January 'for the right players at the right price' whilstvstill having to balance the books

It is well known that Keiffer wants to come back and I'm sure all involved at this end are trying hard to make it happen with FC Bournemouth's people (they don't need to convince Keiffer) within the constraints that continue to affect our club

Sorry if all that is a little too sensible but seemingly unlike you, I try to keep it real...! ;) :ayatollah:

???? i do keep it real the club is run like a shitshow and i feel that if we dont spend and show ambition he should sell up i spend over 1k a season on season tickets not including costs for away and i like to voice my opinion on the club which is my right. i have paid close attention and all i see is tan loving the court system and putting us in this mess he should of paid up then chased it in court but no his ego got in his way and he had to put us in the worse position we have been in for years.

So, let's break this down into segments...

"The club is run like a shit show..."

It may well be your opinion but how do you justify that statement when most will tell you that despite his errors, the current owner has kept our beloved club alive...?

"If we don't spend and show ambition, he should sell up..."

Have you only scanned the contents of this Forum to suit your own agenda? We have not been able to spend (fees) for the last four windows, and prior to the FFP issue, he tended to back his managers; so how does that play out?

You "spend over one £1k a season on season tickets plus away games and I like to voice my opinion"

No issues with voicing your opinion but (a) I know people, including myself, who spend far more than that but it doesn't gives us a stake in how the club is run, as much as we'd like it to; but at least state your 'opinion' on a base of (even some) knowledge of what is actually going on at the club

"All i see is Tan loving the Court system and putting us in this mess he should of paid up then chased it in court"

On this point, I have some limited sympathy for what you say and there has been 'unnecessary' litigation regarding some matters. However, where the Michael Guy case was concerned, he was right; and where the Emiliano Sala case is concerned, it is increasingly apparent that our club may well have a fighting chance of regaining monies (and reputation) lost in recent times

What we do know is that our owner doesn't do losing well and will leave no stone unturned to 'win'; albeit that in some cases what a 'win' actually amounts to is debatable and even a 'stalemate' or 'out of Court' settlement may have been dressed up as said 'win'

He "put us in the worse position we have been in for years"

That one confuses me a little to be fair, so I ask you to explain when we were in a 'better' position before he arrived? You know, the point where he stepped in, saved the club, and took us to the Premier League twice (never been done before)?

I make no secret of my admiration for Sam Hammam as the starter of the 'new era' and my dream is to see him back in tandem with a wealthy benefactor like Vincent Tan; one running the football side and one the business side...

I'll leave you decide which should do which... ;)

All that aside, now let's look at this season where we have relatively successfully overhauled a failing squad with a new (proper) manager and a squad that has surprised us pleasantly in the main

Mehemet Dalman has reignited the boiler beneath the club and has to take some credit for that, surely? He guided us through said overhaul and is in the process of getting new players in; some of whom we will pay a fee for

I'm all for your right to an opinion; but don't get arsey when myself or others have theirs and disagree...! :ayatollah:


not once have i got arsey lol i just said my part and then people commented on it and i responded :laughing6: i would take sam back owning the club yesterday loved the man i was gutted it all ended the way it did the success this season is down dalmn and fair play to him hes got people hopefull again worse position in years meaning the table standings maybe i should of worded it better but writing has never been my strong point :laughing6: also the fans of the other club dont like him too much either im not on here to argue we have all done that since he ruined our club with the colour and badge change i just wanted to air my 10 pence

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:50 pm

Gut feeling is that if Kieffer was actually ever going to come he would already be here.

Fingers crossed I’m wrong but I’m becoming increasingly doubtful.

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:00 am

I feel this whole Kieffer Moore saga is just a way of creating interest to get a better move, I hope I’m wrong.
I’ll be honest though if we don’t a few better players in soon we are in big trouble.

Re: Yes Kieffer Moore wants to / but despite

Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:02 am

I feel this whole Kieffer Moore saga is just a way of creating interest to get a better move, I hope I’m wrong.
I’ll be honest though I’m we don’t a few better players in soon we are in big trouble.