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POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:42 pm

These are the stats for Erol Bulut's tenure at the CCS so far...

Do you think he has done enough to date to suggest he deserves the chance to rebuild the squad and take the Bluebirds on to better things...?
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Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:45 pm

My personal feeling is that he has but needs to be backed by the Board

These stats are not bad considering the squad he inherited and the limitations of his replacements

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:00 pm

Firmly in the yes camp,

Rambo aside we have only O'Dowda, NG, Goutas,Siopis, Grant, Ralls who would be starters in top half championship teams

Rubin and McGuiness have massive potential

We need at least 12 championship-level players, with about three or four that premier league teams are looking at and a few decent kids.

Morisons cohort of recruits are lead boots for our progress

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:01 pm

Strong yes but needs to be backed. He’s worked wonders with the poor squad that we have.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:03 pm

Sven wrote:My personal feeling is that he has but needs to be backed by the Board

These stats are not bad considering the squad he inherited and the limitations of his replacements



Evidence of the last few months and the way he's setting his sides, strange team selection, it's borrowed time.


Why Grant hasn't appeared at centre forward where he's scored goals for three successive teams, is a major worry?

Etete, Meite and Ugbo barely have a goal between them, none are championship standard, yet he still starts them.

He played the last twenty minutes just behind yesterday. Why hasn't Bulut started him at 9 with Colwell as a 10 linking play? Without Ramsey in the side Rubin surely has to play? That frees up a left wing position for Tanner, rather than a cameo 15 minutes.

His insistence on playing three defensive midfielders is also very worrying. It hasn't worked, yet he persists, starts them all?

His position as manager has to be in serious doubt, especially if the board think similar and will not back him. :bluescarf:

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:08 pm

A definite yes for me
We need stability and with a couple of transfer windows, I think we will have a team ready to challenge
Players from Turkey and Greece seem to really want to play for him but as it stands will be thinking perhaps not, when Bulut only has a few months left on his contract
I was hoping the board would have backed Lamouchi
This really could go either way

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:09 pm

Sven wrote:My personal feeling is that he has but needs to be backed by the Board

These stats are not bad considering the squad he inherited and the limitations of his replacements



I totally agree with you Chris.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:10 pm

Yes for me :bluescarf:

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:30 pm

Agree with you Chris.

He has but has to be backed this month.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:34 pm

For me it’s a yes. With what he’s had to work with he’s done a tremendous job. Take into account he’s had no money, some crap signings from previous managers and now he’s getting the same false promises the others had with the fact the embargo has been lifted. He’s now watching his targets be picked up one by one

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:48 pm

No for me. The football we have been playing the last couple of months has been some of the worst I have witnessed in 40 years watching the City. We were lucky to win at qpr, sheff wed and Plymouth should have beaten us so those stats are flattering. Playing out from the back, no shots on goal and totally negative football from minute one. From a manager who apparently goes out to win every game. Players must shoulder some of the blame too, yesterday no desire and not enough effort, criminal as a footballer in my opinion.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:21 pm

Initially I thought so, but not now. The football being played is so dreadful and he simply doesn’t know what to do about it. I want a manager who wants to play attractive attacking football. Bulut seemed to want that too and it started well, but by god it’s gone almost completely the opposite way.

A few weeks ago I was excited about this transfer window but now I can sort of understand why Tan may be wondering if this is a manager he wants to gamble his money on having had so much of it wasted by previous managers.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:40 pm

We can have 50 managers with the same outcome. You can only go so far with freebies and loans players at this level, and he has done well considering what he has to work with. The vicious circle will continue unless there is a change at the top.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:41 pm

I've always thought that we need to pick a manager & stick with him for a while so that he can build his team, chopping & changing manager because we lost a few games doesn't usually end well.

And as I said on another thread we shouldn't be spending silly money on someone now no matter who it is but wait until the summer, which I know most on here don't agree with but that's my thoughts for what they're worth.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:04 pm

Agree we shouldn't spend money for the sake of it, and what money we do spend should be spent wisely. We have seen what adding 1 quality player to the squad can do i.e Ramsey. Getting an extra 1 or 2 quality players in could make the difference at this stage in the season. Then reacess for Summer window if the board will support the manager.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:10 pm

I am happy if we spend and put a team together now rather than the summer the team can all gel together and may not need much tweaking at the start of next season

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:10 pm

It’s a yes from me has done very well considering the restraints. Only thing I don’t understand how the hell does he keep playing Etete. He’s to soft to be a footballer better of with the Kit man upfront.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:28 pm

Comparing Bulut's first game against Leeds to his latest, also against Leeds.. has the team improved? Has the football improved? I think the fact Bulut was more keen to talk about his contract before the game, rather than talk about the importance of the game is telling. I think he still needs some backing in the transfer window, but I don't think he's done enough to earn a long term contract. Clearly he's having to do some wheeling and dealing, rather than being given an open cheque book, with some of the players he brought in going back before he can bring others in. Moaning about his own contract situation hasn't helped.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:46 pm

JB1 wrote:Comparing Bulut's first game against Leeds to his latest, also against Leeds.. has the team improved? Has the football improved? I think the fact Bulut was more keen to talk about his contract before the game, rather than talk about the importance of the game is telling. I think he still needs some backing in the transfer window, but I don't think he's done enough to earn a long term contract. Clearly he's having to do some wheeling and dealing, rather than being given an open cheque book, with some of the players he brought in going back before he can bring others in. Moaning about his own contract situation hasn't helped.


I tend to agree with you and can understand why Tan appears to be holding back. Personally I think he should offer Bulut a 12 month contract and give him some financial backing to prove whether he really has it in him improve the team. If he doesn't then it's thank you but goodbye Mr Bulut.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:52 pm

In don’t think he’s done enough to warrant a new deal. The style of football is shite and the lack of effort game after game is embarrassing. Hes had one decent unbeaten streak and since then we have been poor.

Leeds home and not even laying a glove on them shows he’s not up to it. There are better managers out there who would do a much better job with the players we currently have.

Send him back to Turkey.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:53 pm

Basically this thread is about will bulut be backed.

I don't think he will get the 6 players he wants and he will not get the QUALITY players he wants either, is that buluts fault, for me yes because he isn't showing that he's a good manager in anyway regardless.

But hey ho that's my opinion but what do I know.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:20 pm

He started off well, but we tailed off end of October, and performances got worse, a few mixed results, but progressively worse, culminating in the debacle and total capitulation in yesterday’s performance.
It’s quite obvious that things behind the scenes are not right, added to the fact that it looks pretty clear that he’s not going to get the players he wants, or wanted. Results and performances have to improve, or he will be gone, sooner rather than later.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:25 pm

Now that the knee jerk reaction to yesterday has calmed down. I’d say yes, let’s go for some stability. I’ve not been convinced as I think he sets up at KO too cautiously. But the reality is, we’re a mixed bunch in the squad. Some good some bad. Some developing and some getting close to having run their race for us. I’m a true fan of Rallsy, but I feel injuries and time is catching up with him. RC I wasn’t sure of until the string of substitute appearances this year and his belter of goal late in the game. He was obviously undoubtedly skilful, but wasn’t quite putting it together. You can see his confidence has sky rocketed lately and Bulut has been increasing his game time and starts.
We’re 3 points off the playoffs, somehow. And if we hang around that level while rebuilding I’ll be happy to see a top 8-10th place finish this season.
But I have to say, it’s very painful some games.
We’ve had enough short termism to last us a lifetime. Lets get into the mindset of looking away from game to game and try to see some positives. RC seems to have finally broken through. I’d love to see Joel start doing the same this year as I think he is a more robust player and will put himself about a bit as well as being creative. 2 academy boys embedding themself in the 1st team squad would be welcome in one season.
I know it’s a positive post and expect the incoming. But it’s an opinion, amongst many.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:30 pm

I don't like Bulut, never have. Our team is now lacking drive. We should replace him

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:41 pm

A great manager gets results from poor teams.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:53 pm

Not for me, he was allowed to sign 9 players on big money in the summer and is already releasing 3 as not good enough! He started well, new manager bounce but can no longer motivate players and will not change his defensive game plan. Cardiff have the 6th highest wage bill in the championship so should be doing much better! Approach Steve Cooper or Nathan Jones, local boys who know the Championship unlike Bulut as we are not going up or down this season.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:02 pm

HarriRhys22 wrote:Not for me, he was allowed to sign 9 players on big money in the summer and is already releasing 3 as not good enough! He started well, new manager bounce but can no longer motivate players and will not change his defensive game plan. Cardiff have the 6th highest wage bill in the championship so should be doing much better! Approach Steve Cooper or Nathan Jones, local boys who know the Championship unlike Bulut as we are not going up or down this season.


What what what?!? Are you on drugs? What big money signings? :lol:

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:04 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Agree with you Chris.

He has but has to be backed this month.

His head will be on the block even if he's not backed thats how daft the board are imo.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:20 pm

As a benchmark, would Warnock get more out of the squad we have now? For me he would. At least he would mix the team and tactics according to who we were playing and the team would show some fight, everything lacking at the moment.

Re: POLL: HAS EROL BULUT DONE ENOUGH?

Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:24 pm

HarriRhys22 wrote:Not for me, he was allowed to sign 9 players on big money in the summer and is already releasing 3 as not good enough! He started well, new manager bounce but can no longer motivate players and will not change his defensive game plan. Cardiff have the 6th highest wage bill in the championship so should be doing much better! Approach Steve Cooper or Nathan Jones, local boys who know the Championship unlike Bulut as we are not going up or down this season.



Rambo on 80K a week :lol: :lol:

Ugbo & Runnarson 15K a week :shock:

Somehow I think the guesswork is just that.....

https://www.capology.com/club/cardiff/salaries/