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litoblues wrote:Works both ways.. Warnock had bargains ready and waiting
Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:16 pm
Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:39 pm
nobby wrote:How any manager puts up with this board I don't know.
Time will tell, hopefully we will get the 6 players he wanted, if not I think even he will have had enough and walk.
Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:44 pm
Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:44 pm
Ninian1962 wrote:nobby wrote:How any manager puts up with this board I don't know.
Time will tell, hopefully we will get the 6 players he wanted, if not I think even he will have had enough and walk.
Why would a manager worry too much about what is said on this message board or any other message board?
Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:49 pm
nobby wrote:Ninian1962 wrote:nobby wrote:How any manager puts up with this board I don't know.
Time will tell, hopefully we will get the 6 players he wanted, if not I think even he will have had enough and walk.
Why would a manager worry too much about what is said on this message board or any other message board?
I meant board as in Tan Dalman etc, not this board ffs.![]()
Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:54 pm
nobby wrote:Ninian1962 wrote:nobby wrote:How any manager puts up with this board I don't know.
Time will tell, hopefully we will get the 6 players he wanted, if not I think even he will have had enough and walk.
Why would a manager worry too much about what is said on this message board or any other message board?
I meant board as in Tan Dalman etc, not this board ffs.![]()
Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:59 pm
MoodyBluebird wrote:nobby wrote:Ninian1962 wrote:nobby wrote:How any manager puts up with this board I don't know.
Time will tell, hopefully we will get the 6 players he wanted, if not I think even he will have had enough and walk.
Why would a manager worry too much about what is said on this message board or any other message board?
I meant board as in Tan Dalman etc, not this board ffs.![]()
I think ninian1962 has played you like a kipper mate lol
Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:11 pm
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Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:21 pm
Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:45 pm
Sven wrote:Erol Bulut is going nowhere; and a lot of hints in there, including the new Chief Scout...
Beyond that, I understand the club have promised to back him, so far as they can, with wages more than transfer fees...
Things are moving; but expect more in the summer when the market is more fluid...
Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:20 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Sven wrote:Erol Bulut is going nowhere; and a lot of hints in there, including the new Chief Scout...
Beyond that, I understand the club have promised to back him, so far as they can, with wages more than transfer fees...
Things are moving; but expect more in the summer when the market is more fluid...
Sven,
I think people need to know why with wages and not transfer fees. Its all to do with FFP. If we paid for one player we would break FFP. That is how close it is. So the only option we have is wages. We might be able to bring in the 6 players and still stay within FFP.
Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:59 pm
Sven wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Sven wrote:Erol Bulut is going nowhere; and a lot of hints in there, including the new Chief Scout...
Beyond that, I understand the club have promised to back him, so far as they can, with wages more than transfer fees...
Things are moving; but expect more in the summer when the market is more fluid...
Sven,
I think people need to know why with wages and not transfer fees. Its all to do with FFP. If we paid for one player we would break FFP. That is how close it is. So the only option we have is wages. We might be able to bring in the 6 players and still stay within FFP.
Ian, I think you are spot on...!![]()
I think part of the (Forum) issue is that we, the supporters, don't really know how we actually stand with FFP, so we rely (with baited breath) on the club and more often on the likes of (the financially credible) Keith Morgan...
What we do know from his previous experiences, is that our owner has been stung mainly by agants and once or twice by his manager(s) to the point he lacks trust in paying out large transfer fees and he has actually said that...
In The Championship, it is possible (mainly in the summer months) to bring in good Premier League players at the end of their contracts, whilst paying smaller fees for up and coming players from the lower Leagues...
I think it's very tough at this time of year when players still have contracts and we've seen that when trying to shift players out in January in the past...
We are currently chasing up to six players and if even half of those come off, we will be in a good position to move further forward in tbe summer and when another year off this shoddily-arranged FFP is over...
Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:51 am
Ninian1962 wrote:Sven wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Sven wrote:Erol Bulut is going nowhere; and a lot of hints in there, including the new Chief Scout...
Beyond that, I understand the club have promised to back him, so far as they can, with wages more than transfer fees...
Things are moving; but expect more in the summer when the market is more fluid...
Sven,
I think people need to know why with wages and not transfer fees. Its all to do with FFP. If we paid for one player we would break FFP. That is how close it is. So the only option we have is wages. We might be able to bring in the 6 players and still stay within FFP.
Ian, I think you are spot on...!![]()
I think part of the (Forum) issue is that we, the supporters, don't really know how we actually stand with FFP, so we rely (with baited breath) on the club and more often on the likes of (the financially credible) Keith Morgan...
What we do know from his previous experiences, is that our owner has been stung mainly by agants and once or twice by his manager(s) to the point he lacks trust in paying out large transfer fees and he has actually said that...
In The Championship, it is possible (mainly in the summer months) to bring in good Premier League players at the end of their contracts, whilst paying smaller fees for up and coming players from the lower Leagues...
I think it's very tough at this time of year when players still have contracts and we've seen that when trying to shift players out in January in the past...
We are currently chasing up to six players and if even half of those come off, we will be in a good position to move further forward in tbe summer and when another year off this shoddily-arranged FFP is over...
You make some very good points in this post.
One of the problems the club has faced in trying to maximise funds available to the manager to bring in new players in the current transfer window is the failure to offload players(and therefore their wage costs) who aren`t important to the first team squad and wouldn`t be a loss if they left, However, the players concerned have to agree to leave and I am aware of at least one who has categorically refused to go
Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:54 pm
Ninian1962 wrote:Sven wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Sven wrote:Erol Bulut is going nowhere; and a lot of hints in there, including the new Chief Scout...
Beyond that, I understand the club have promised to back him, so far as they can, with wages more than transfer fees...
Things are moving; but expect more in the summer when the market is more fluid...
Sven,
I think people need to know why with wages and not transfer fees. Its all to do with FFP. If we paid for one player we would break FFP. That is how close it is. So the only option we have is wages. We might be able to bring in the 6 players and still stay within FFP.
Ian, I think you are spot on...!![]()
I think part of the (Forum) issue is that we, the supporters, don't really know how we actually stand with FFP, so we rely (with baited breath) on the club and more often on the likes of (the financially credible) Keith Morgan...
What we do know from his previous experiences, is that our owner has been stung mainly by agants and once or twice by his manager(s) to the point he lacks trust in paying out large transfer fees and he has actually said that...
In The Championship, it is possible (mainly in the summer months) to bring in good Premier League players at the end of their contracts, whilst paying smaller fees for up and coming players from the lower Leagues...
I think it's very tough at this time of year when players still have contracts and we've seen that when trying to shift players out in January in the past...
We are currently chasing up to six players and if even half of those come off, we will be in a good position to move further forward in tbe summer and when another year off this shoddily-arranged FFP is over...
You make some very good points in this post.
One of the problems the club has faced in trying to maximise funds available to the manager to bring in new players in the current transfer window is the failure to offload players(and therefore their wage costs) who aren`t important to the first team squad and wouldn`t be a loss if they left, However, the players concerned have to agree to leave and I am aware of at least one who has categorically refused to go
Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:58 pm
Sven wrote:Ninian1962 wrote:Sven wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Sven wrote:Erol Bulut is going nowhere; and a lot of hints in there, including the new Chief Scout...
Beyond that, I understand the club have promised to back him, so far as they can, with wages more than transfer fees...
Things are moving; but expect more in the summer when the market is more fluid...
Sven,
I think people need to know why with wages and not transfer fees. Its all to do with FFP. If we paid for one player we would break FFP. That is how close it is. So the only option we have is wages. We might be able to bring in the 6 players and still stay within FFP.
Ian, I think you are spot on...!![]()
I think part of the (Forum) issue is that we, the supporters, don't really know how we actually stand with FFP, so we rely (with baited breath) on the club and more often on the likes of (the financially credible) Keith Morgan...
What we do know from his previous experiences, is that our owner has been stung mainly by agants and once or twice by his manager(s) to the point he lacks trust in paying out large transfer fees and he has actually said that...
In The Championship, it is possible (mainly in the summer months) to bring in good Premier League players at the end of their contracts, whilst paying smaller fees for up and coming players from the lower Leagues...
I think it's very tough at this time of year when players still have contracts and we've seen that when trying to shift players out in January in the past...
We are currently chasing up to six players and if even half of those come off, we will be in a good position to move further forward in tbe summer and when another year off this shoddily-arranged FFP is over...
You make some very good points in this post.
One of the problems the club has faced in trying to maximise funds available to the manager to bring in new players in the current transfer window is the failure to offload players(and therefore their wage costs) who aren`t important to the first team squad and wouldn`t be a loss if they left, However, the players concerned have to agree to leave and I am aware of at least one who has categorically refused to go
Thank you as always for your input, Keith; and I think that just sums it up...
Not sure who the one players is but it won't be the first time a players has preferred to sit on his derriere at our club (and others) rather than go play football for a living. I guess it's a personal financial calculation but going forward, it rarely succeeds, as once released these players often struggle to find decent new clubs...
Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:38 am
Sun Jan 21, 2024 2:44 am
nobby wrote:I'm still convinced he'll walk