BACK BULUT OR BACK TAN &BOARD POLL

Perhaps there should be a poll which could be compiled by the forum of fans views which could be shown to all concerned with a simple tick
Manager and Tan & dalhman and they could draw there own conclussions and hopefully react in a positive way.

But it’s not an either / or choice so pointless. Everyone has to be aligned, from the board to the manager to the players to the fans.

Back Bulut ALL THE WAY. A good manager who knows how a club should perform top to bottom.

He knew January was key, and the door appears to be closing on him at a rate of knots

CARPE DIEM

Disagree the one with the lowest votes has to change track and get with the program then align themselves with the majority.

Could the moderators get involved and sort some sort of poll before the topic goes off track.

Added a poll to this topic for you.

For the record, I back Bulut over Tan.

Should do a poll- Should Tan sell now or stay

good idea from what i have seen this is only going one way ! soon people will need to start voting with a protest untill the board has gone i feel its time now

Bulut 100%

He’s brought exciting football back to CCS, just shows that we fans have been right all these years, the board are fcuking us over constantly

Same problem, different manager. Backing Bulut for sure.

WORCESTER

Thank you for your help lets hope something can come of it for what its worth i hope bulut can reflect and take some heart in what i think will be a comfort to know the fans are behind him
and perhaps the board can see that fans back the manager.

I back Bulut, but it’s not that simple.

The board can go out and get a new manager, maybe not as good but a new manager none the less.

What we have seen for the last few seasons is that there is no realistic alternative to our current owner. Whether some on here acknowledge it or not, he is putting in millions every season and there aren’t any prospective buyers out there who will get near to the club valuation never mind agree to subsidise the club to that level.

In Bulut we have a top level manager on the up, he knows he will get a bigger job if he walks and won’t want a “failure” on his CV. Which is why he is brave enough to make this type of statement because not even Warnock was willing to do it previously.

I hope that a compromise can be reached and it’s the impetus needed to get some of these signings over the line. I don’t think Tan will take this well but, if as some people on here have claimed, Dalman is running the show then perhaps things will become much clearer in the remainder of the transfer window.

Given me some hope that it’s so far 17-0 Bulut.

SACK
THE
BOARD

CARPE DIEM

Disagree the one with the lowest votes has to change track and get with the program then align themselves with the majority.

Total nonsense.

I'd give bullut 0 pence...why his he any better than Morrison...Morrison was not given any chance..and he was not too bad..bullut discussion making his awful..and motivation is zero

But it’s not an either / or choice so pointless. Everyone has to be aligned, from the board to the manager to the players to the fans.

100% a pointless 'poll'

The problem we have is that too many factions have opened up and no one seems prepared to meet in the middle ground; and at all levels of the club and its support...

What is 'for the good of our club' is to each to perceive but sadly hard to reconcile when emotions are so high...

CARPE DIEM / SVEN
You could say it pointless fans turning up every week to recieve the same outcome
Its just a forum for discussion
And if its a pointless poll fair enough it will fade away a bit like the fans if we carry on with this board v manager the poll is there to point out the obvious to the stubbourn

You don' t have to vote anyway

But if i was a manager in buluts position it would be nice to know the fans had your back and support and may reflect on it and i am sure the players would back him to
so that just leaves the board .

I'd give bullut 0 pence...why his he any better than Morrison...Morrison was not given any chance..and he was not too bad..bullut discussion making his awful..and motivation is zero

Morison wasn’t given a chance, dismissed 10 games after a completely new squad. But again, with freebies and loans. Like our current squad.

No manager has done well in the past few seasons and it’s obviously why. Don’t see how the board members can be backed at this point.

Bulut 100%

He’s brought exciting football back to CCS, just shows that we fans have been right all these years, the board are fcuking us over constantly

Exciting football!!!

CARPE DIEM / SVEN
You could say it pointless fans turning up every week to recieve the same outcome
Its just a forum for discussion
And if its a pointless poll fair enough it will fade away a bit like the fans if we carry on with this board v manager the poll is there to point out the obvious to the stubbourn

You don' t have to vote anyway

But if i was a manager in buluts position it would be nice to know the fans had your back and support and may reflect on it and i am sure the players would back him to
so that just leaves the board .

Monty, that wasn't a pop at you; just that such a 'poll' should have far more 'options' for it to be a serious one...

It certainly is a Forum 'for discussion' and Carpe Diem and myself had an opposing but respectful view to yourself and I happen to believe the 'poll' was/is flawed; that is my considered opinion...

I think Tan already knows the feelings amongst supporters and I equally believe it doesn't overly concern him considering it had little affect when some supporters did 'protest'; it just seemed to entrench him more...

As for 'fans turning up every game for the same outcome', that has been a time-old dilemma, i.e. does someone stay and support their team through thick and thin, as I and many others have; or do they walk away (as others have done) until the situation changes...?

That is for individuals to decide but as a very experienced Bluebird, I can tell you with all honesty, I have seen a lot worse at our club than this current situation...

That doesn't mean I'm 'happy' and it 100% doesn't mean I wouldn't prefer a new more supporter-orientated owner; but we are nowhere near that currently, so what are our realistic options...?

Nathan Blake feels Cardiff City boss Erol Bulut's "hands are tied" given the club's failure to bring in any players so far during the transfer window.

Bulut has regularly stated his desire to add to his squad in the winter window, although with two-thirds of January now gone, Cardiff are yet to sign a player.

"The manager has been talking about bringing in players in the January transfer window since early December, maybe late November," Blake said on BBC Radio Wales.

“You try and keep those cards close to your chest but I think it’s probably as a result of trying to convince the owner to do some business.

“He’s probably come in with the assumption that, come January, we’ll make the squad a bit stronger and move forward. He’s trying to embed himself in the club while progressing, but it’s just not happening.

“He’s blindfolded, his hands are tied. He’s not sure what’s happening."

Blake's comments come after Bulut said"some things have to change" at the club following Cardiff's 3-1 defeat to Plymouth Argyle.
“Where does he go from here? The next step is ‘I have to start questioning myself and my own future’," added former Wales and Cardiff striker Blake.

“I’ll still maintain, I think he can get more out of this team. These players earlier on in the season were doing far better than what they’re doing now, and I don’t think they’ve really improved from a coaching perspective.

“But at the same time, if he doesn’t feel he’s getting backed or the club has a plan to move forward, then it’s almost ‘what’s the point?’ and I think that’s what you’re hearing from him now.

“He’s starting to question whether it’s worthwhile for him to be here because there doesn’t seem to be any sort of plan in place."

Erol Bulut is a fan really.. Mr Tan, what is the point?
British football sold its soul to the Devil, and this is the outcome. A distant and disdainful foreigner with no connection.

I voted bulut obviously.
But if it comes down to tan or bukut to go there's only going to be 1 winner. Tan is not going anywhere until he gets what he wants. Which he's not going to get = catch 22= same shit year in year out. Only 1 suffering Cardiff City FC ( and everyone involved i.e fans etc)

Bulut 100%

He’s brought exciting football back to CCS, just shows that we fans have been right all these years, the board are fcuking us over constantly

But it was the board that brought Bulut in. So they bring in a great manager player exciting football yet the board are now to blame. lol. Crazy.
Backing bulut is like backing the board by proxy.

I voted bulut obviously.
But if it comes down to tan or bukut to go there's only going to be 1 winner. Tan is not going anywhere until he gets what he wants. Which he's not going to get = catch 22= same shit year in year out. Only 1 suffering Cardiff City FC ( and everyone involved i.e fans etc)

I don’t disagree with most of your post, but the fans suffering? I’m certainly not suffering football be release my pleasure and I choose to go. People who are truly suffering do not choose their situation.

SVEN

Thats fair enough happy for a better poll to be sorted by the forum mods
it was just something i was hoping bulut could have brought to his attention and maybe reflect on before chucking it in because if he goes we go back to "rookie managers" all over again and the cycle continue s

We all know tan would not bother or take notice of anything on paper but also some on the forum are against protests at the stadium so how do you go about
from a fans point of view getting your views heard and reflecting on

What do you suggest is going to make mr tan reignite his interest because it cannot go on
or do we have to wait until as tan once said smugly(quote)
If there' s a welsh billionaire out there who wants to buy the club.
Otherwise i run the club as i see fit
What a shame we have an owner with that attidude who has no interest in the clubs history the city or us fans whatsoever
we could do with an owner like bristol have a local born and bred who invested lots and is there in the stadium week in week out.

SVEN

Thats fair enough happy for a better poll to be sorted by the forum mods
it was just something i was hoping bulut could have brought to his attention and maybe reflect on before chucking it in because if he goes we go back to "rookie managers" all over again and the cycle continue s

We all know tan would not bother or take notice of anything on paper but also some on the forum are against protests at the stadium so how do you go about
from a fans point of view getting your views heard and reflecting on

What do you suggest is going to make mr tan reignite his interest because it cannot go on
or do we have to wait until as tan once said smugly(quote)
If there' s a welsh billionaire out there who wants to buy the club.
Otherwise i run the club as i see fit
What a shame we have an owner with that attidude who has no interest in the clubs history the city or us fans whatsoever
we could do with an owner like bristol have a local born and bred who invested lots and is there in the stadium week in week out.

Monty, I broadly agree; and there in your post lies the issue, i.e. a lack of real alternative to Tan and until he decides otherwise, we are stuck with him and his dictatorial ways...

I try to have a balanced view but I do wonder sometimes if we are being punished over past conflict with him; then on reflection, I think he's simply a bit of a meglomaniac and there's not much we can do other than hope Mrs Tan, Snr. has another word in his shell-like...!

SVEN

Thats fair enough happy for a better poll to be sorted by the forum mods
it was just something i was hoping bulut could have brought to his attention and maybe reflect on before chucking it in because if he goes we go back to "rookie managers" all over again and the cycle continue s

We all know tan would not bother or take notice of anything on paper but also some on the forum are against protests at the stadium so how do you go about
from a fans point of view getting your views heard and reflecting on

What do you suggest is going to make mr tan reignite his interest because it cannot go on
or do we have to wait until as tan once said smugly(quote)
If there' s a welsh billionaire out there who wants to buy the club.
Otherwise i run the club as i see fit
What a shame we have an owner with that attidude who has no interest in the clubs history the city or us fans whatsoever
we could do with an owner like bristol have a local born and bred who invested lots and is there in the stadium week in week out.

Monty, I broadly agree; and there in your post lies the issue, i.e. a lack of real alternative to Tan and until he decides otherwise, we are stuck with him and his dictatorial ways...

I try to have a balanced view but I do wonder sometimes if we are being punished over past conflict with him; then on reflection, I think he's simply a bit of a meglomaniac and there's not much we can do other than hope Mrs Tan, Snr. has another word in his shell-like...!

ChrisI got to agree with you on this

VT won’t be going anywhere until the Sala business is concluded. And that may take years.

SVEN

Yes i know you give a balanced view but the idea that you just have to suck it up for whatever time tan wants to carry on
I would be fine for to carry on if he would be more on board rather than as you said punishing us from past clashes
man utd protested about the glazers
and reading are know protesting and will be interesting to see the outcome but the thought of us carrying on like this fir the foreseeable future is very depressing just making up the numbers in the championship with our hands tied
how can you compete without investment.