Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:13 am
Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:54 am
Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:58 am
Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:17 pm
Maccydear wrote:While that’s all true and correct. It misses out a large narrative that is very important.
Fans have started turning against Bulut and that has to have had an impact on any decisions by the board to give him funds.
The fact a fair few of his loans have gone back is also quite telling.
Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:49 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Maccydear wrote:While that’s all true and correct. It misses out a large narrative that is very important.
Fans have started turning against Bulut and that has to have had an impact on any decisions by the board to give him funds.
The fact a fair few of his loans have gone back is also quite telling.
Yep Tan and Dalman will be questioning the sending back of Ugbo and Ponzo. Also the decline of Goutas and Siopis won't help.
Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:03 pm
Maccydear wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Maccydear wrote:While that’s all true and correct. It misses out a large narrative that is very important.
Fans have started turning against Bulut and that has to have had an impact on any decisions by the board to give him funds.
The fact a fair few of his loans have gone back is also quite telling.
Yep Tan and Dalman will be questioning the sending back of Ugbo and Ponzo. Also the decline of Goutas and Siopis won't help.
Goutas was in team of the half season just recently. I think our problems are huge and it’s confidence based. Ramsey back will help a lot but it is papering over the cracks.
Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:14 pm
Sven wrote:Maccydear wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Maccydear wrote:While that’s all true and correct. It misses out a large narrative that is very important.
Fans have started turning against Bulut and that has to have had an impact on any decisions by the board to give him funds.
The fact a fair few of his loans have gone back is also quite telling.
Yep Tan and Dalman will be questioning the sending back of Ugbo and Ponzo. Also the decline of Goutas and Siopis won't help.
Goutas was in team of the half season just recently. I think our problems are huge and it’s confidence based. Ramsey back will help a lot but it is papering over the cracks.
People on here telling them they're 'crap, tired, freebies, second choice, not good enough, etc.' certainly doesn't help...
We know we have a fickle support base; and much of that is down to very short memories...
Many do seem to constantly look for the negative...
Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:02 pm
Maccydear wrote:Sven wrote:Maccydear wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Maccydear wrote:While that’s all true and correct. It misses out a large narrative that is very important.
Fans have started turning against Bulut and that has to have had an impact on any decisions by the board to give him funds.
The fact a fair few of his loans have gone back is also quite telling.
Yep Tan and Dalman will be questioning the sending back of Ugbo and Ponzo. Also the decline of Goutas and Siopis won't help.
Goutas was in team of the half season just recently. I think our problems are huge and it’s confidence based. Ramsey back will help a lot but it is papering over the cracks.
People on here telling them they're 'crap, tired, freebies, second choice, not good enough, etc.' certainly doesn't help...
We know we have a fickle support base; and much of that is down to very short memories...
Many do seem to constantly look for the negative...
Said it constantly Chris, really fickle fan base. People been on at Bulut for a while now.
When we were doing well it was a good squad. Now it’s a poor squad made up of freebies again. As you say always the negative.
Ramsey turned an average squad into one that was better than that. Confidence from that start has disappeared now.
20 mins v Plymouth we looked good. Needed a second.
Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:07 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Maccydear wrote:Sven wrote:Maccydear wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Maccydear wrote:While that’s all true and correct. It misses out a large narrative that is very important.
Fans have started turning against Bulut and that has to have had an impact on any decisions by the board to give him funds.
The fact a fair few of his loans have gone back is also quite telling.
Yep Tan and Dalman will be questioning the sending back of Ugbo and Ponzo. Also the decline of Goutas and Siopis won't help.
Goutas was in team of the half season just recently. I think our problems are huge and it’s confidence based. Ramsey back will help a lot but it is papering over the cracks.
People on here telling them they're 'crap, tired, freebies, second choice, not good enough, etc.' certainly doesn't help...
We know we have a fickle support base; and much of that is down to very short memories...
Many do seem to constantly look for the negative...
Said it constantly Chris, really fickle fan base. People been on at Bulut for a while now.
When we were doing well it was a good squad. Now it’s a poor squad made up of freebies again. As you say always the negative.
Ramsey turned an average squad into one that was better than that. Confidence from that start has disappeared now.
20 mins v Plymouth we looked good. Needed a second.
How can you block out the negative after these last 2 months? It only natural to feel that way unless you are an alien from outer space.
And football is for 90 minutes not 20.
Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:50 pm
Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:56 pm
skiprat wrote:Any of you ever wondered why our fanbase is so fickle?it's down to the fact that the club has a shocking history of under achievement and has only reached its full potential twice in its 125 year history .true to form hear we are again in all too familiar period of uncertainty.As much as I don't like tan/Dalman all see them doing is joining the list of so many previous owners who have failed to take the club forward.
Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:00 pm
skiprat wrote:Any of you ever wondered why our fanbase is so fickle?it's down to the fact that the club has a shocking history of under achievement and has only reached its full potential twice in its 125 year history .true to form hear we are again in all too familiar period of uncertainty.As much as I don't like tan/Dalman all see them doing is joining the list of so many previous owners who have failed to take the club forward.
Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:04 pm
Maccydear wrote:skiprat wrote:Any of you ever wondered why our fanbase is so fickle?it's down to the fact that the club has a shocking history of under achievement and has only reached its full potential twice in its 125 year history .true to form hear we are again in all too familiar period of uncertainty.As much as I don't like tan/Dalman all see them doing is joining the list of so many previous owners who have failed to take the club forward.
Sam’s tenure spoilt us. It was so good and felt so good. Then Dave Jones performed miracles. Then the spending under Malky.
Stretched our expectations.
As much as we say happy with mid table or to avoid relegation we don’t mean that.
Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:09 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:Maccydear wrote:skiprat wrote:Any of you ever wondered why our fanbase is so fickle?it's down to the fact that the club has a shocking history of under achievement and has only reached its full potential twice in its 125 year history .true to form hear we are again in all too familiar period of uncertainty.As much as I don't like tan/Dalman all see them doing is joining the list of so many previous owners who have failed to take the club forward.
Sam’s tenure spoilt us. It was so good and felt so good. Then Dave Jones performed miracles. Then the spending under Malky.
Stretched our expectations.
As much as we say happy with mid table or to avoid relegation we don’t mean that.
Just because you don't mean what you say doesn't mean everybody is the same as you.
I've said I would be happy with mid table this season and I would still be happy with it after the last 2 years of fighting relegation almost from the start of the season.
Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:38 pm
skiprat wrote:Any of you ever wondered why our fanbase is so fickle?it's down to the fact that the club has a shocking history of under achievement and has only reached its full potential twice in its 125 year history .true to form hear we are again in all too familiar period of uncertainty.As much as I don't like tan/Dalman all see them doing is joining the list of so many previous owners who have failed to take the club forward.