Cardiff Take a hell of a hammering:

Week after week Cardiff City’s U21’s either get hammered or lose and today City’s U18’s

For me Darren Purse should have gone 2 yrs ago and Gavin Chesterfield a lovely person but from Barry Town to a Championship Club like Cardiff City for me should not be happening:

They might be Cheap but in the long run costing City big time with the future.




You can defend 2nil even 3nil defeats but 5nil.

It’s the management not the players.


TODAY: UNDER 18’S

WATFORD U18’S 5 CARDIFF CITU U18’S 0

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Cardiff City

Cardiff City U21 fixtures for the 2023/24 PDL campaign are as follows:

Tue Aug 15 Fleetwood Town 4 Cardiff City 1
Tue Aug 22 CARDIFF CITY 3 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 3
Sat Aug 26 Burnley 2 Cardiff City 2

Fri Sep 1 CARDIFF CITY 2 BARNSLEY 1
Tue Sep 12 Sheffield United 6 Cardiff City 2
Tue Sep 26 CARDIFF CITY 0 MILLWALL 1

Tue Oct 3 Ipswich Town 5 Cardiff City 2
Tue Oct 17 AFC BOURNEMOUTH H
Tue Oct 24 Watford 2 Cardiff City 2
Mon Oct 30 Queens Park Rangers 3 Cardiff City 2



Tue Nov 7 CARDIFF CITY 3 BRISTOL CITY 0
Mon Nov 27 Charlton Athletic 5 Cardiff City 5

Tue Dec 5 CARDIFF CITY 3 SWANSEA CITY 0
Mon Dec 18 Millwall 5 Cardiff City 1



Tue Jan 9 CARDIFF CITY 0 WATFORD 0
Tue Jan 16 AFC Bournemouth 3 Cardiff City 2
Tue Jan 30 QUEENS PARK RANGERS H

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Little wonder we have nothing really tangible coming through to the senior section.

Rubin Colwill aside, King, Ashford, King, Denham, Antwi, Crole and left-back Beecher are all long shots. If you pay peanuts, your going to only get substandard coaches. Why we have constantly over looked Cameron Toshack for our Head of Academy is beyond me.

Nice doesn't come into it, we have to hire ruthlessness ability. Now we have kids being brought up with a mentality of losing and we are expecting them to carry positivity as they try to break into the first-team frame.

The millions spend down at the Llanrumney Academy will be wasted hiring coaches who should only be operating in that Dog & Duck League, otherwise known the Welsh PL

Nice doesn't come into it, we have to hire ruthlessness ability. Now we have kids being brought up with a mentality of losing and we are expecting them to carry positivity as they try to break into the first-team frame.

The millions spend down at the Llanrumney Academy will be wasted hiring coaches who should only be operating in that Dog & Duck League, otherwise known the Welsh PL

For once, I agree with you; it simply cannot be breeding positivity and/or confidence when a team are going out with their heads already down...

Sam had the right idea, when he had the Academy upgraded to 'elite' status. With current FFP, the future for clubs such as ourselves is surely to create our own players and supplement them with good signings...?

Well what do you expect when your under21's team consists of 7 1st year and 4 2nd year scholars. Are the normal under 21 team on holiday like the 1st team?

Annis, you are right here.

In any form of management, and irrespective of whatever level you are playing at, you MUST aspire to make your side one of the top 5 teams. I mean with all the resources open to us you would think we could be on par with the Swans in this league.

Let us look at this how it is. Watford is a mid-table team in this league and we got smashed by five goals. As an individual result, I could accept that because rogue results happen in football. But this is not a rogue scenario. We in week out our kids are having their enthusiasm for the game destroyed. 3-0, 4-0, 5-0 week in and week out - the present management does not have it in them to turn this around.

Purse is not upto it hopefully if bulut gets contract he will sort it out! Do all clubs put in kids 2or3 yrs younger than age group? Because it seems we do it regularly which is not good for their development.

The future looks bright

Just waiting for the spin doctor and co in the boardroom to tell us there's 5 to 6 stars in there who could make it in the first team. Just like before when we didn't spend anything and what happened to them freed up and pontypridd they went sadly.

Purse is not upto it hopefully if bulut gets contract he will sort it out! Do all clubs put in kids 2or3 yrs younger than age group? Because it seems we do it regularly which is not good for their development.

Back in the day when Sam was running the Academy he purposely put 14-year-olds in the Under 16s and played 16 year olds in the Under 18.

It meant, that by age 18, they were hardened enough to step into the reserves and upwards.

We can all reel off names who came through the Academy.

We need to have that foresight again.

In the mid 1980s the Southampton Academy was the best in the country. Through a "Bob Higgins" legal case I spoke with Dave Merrington who run their 16-18 academy and had players like Shearer, Le Tiss etc going through him.

He said to me that if a club wants to create its own money they have to attend Under 12/13/14 football sessions all across the country. He did this. He held Southampton coaching sessions in Gateshead and brought the best players down to Southampton with him.

If you want the best players you have to go out looking for them and attract them to your club. They are not just going to turn up

Little wonder we have nothing really tangible coming through to the senior section.

Rubin Colwill aside, King, Ashford, King, Denham, Antwi, Crole and left-back Beecher are all long shots. If you pay peanuts, your going to only get substandard coaches. Why we have constantly over looked Cameron Toshack for our Head of Academy is beyond me.

That's a great shout mate

Purse is not upto it hopefully if bulut gets contract he will sort it out! Do all clubs put in kids 2or3 yrs younger than age group? Because it seems we do it regularly which is not good for their development.

Back in the day when Sam was running the Academy he purposely put 14-year-olds in the Under 16s and played 16 year olds in the Under 18.

It meant, that by age 18, they were hardened enough to step into the reserves and upwards.

We can all reel off names who came through the Academy.

We need to have that foresight again.

In the mid 1980s the Southampton Academy was the best in the country. Through a "Bob Higgins" legal case I spoke with Dave Merrington who run their 16-18 academy and had players like Shearer, Le Tiss etc going through him.

He said to me that if a club wants to create its own money they have to attend Under 12/13/14 football sessions all across the country. He did this. He held Southampton coaching sessions in Gateshead and brought the best players down to Southampton with him.

If you want the best players you have to go out looking for them and attract them to your club. They are not just going to turn up

Agree got to go out gind yhem hopefully as well the new centre will help draw kids in from a wide area if of course got the right personal at academy... as for putting in players 2 yrs or so under age group in pheory thats good but isn't this thread about team getting hammered so playing youngsters 2yrs under age is going to result in getting hammered a lot ??

Well what do you expect when your under21's team consists of 7 1st year and 4 2nd year scholars. Are the normal under 21 team on holiday like the 1st team?

This is an U18’s match

V other U18’s team 5nil

I know Purse is an ex player, but he’s not up to it and the whole set up seems wrong. It’s not just the fact we lose, but every time I look on here we get hammered. If the board doesn’t want to spend money on the first team, then at least invest more into a quality youth coach that will bring some players through.

I think at the moment we cannot afford to sack him as he's most likely got some absolutely ridiculous contract which some clown gave him. ££££££.

Nice doesn't come into it, we have to hire ruthlessness ability. Now we have kids being brought up with a mentality of losing and we are expecting them to carry positivity as they try to break into the first-team frame.

The millions spend down at the Llanrumney Academy will be wasted hiring coaches who should only be operating in that Dog & Duck League, otherwise known the Welsh PL

For once, I agree with you; it simply cannot be breeding positivity and/or confidence when a team are going out with their heads already down...

Sam had the right idea, when he had the Academy upgraded to 'elite' status. With current FFP, the future for clubs such as ourselves is surely to create our own players and supplement them with good signings...?

What does "good" look like for the academy?

Winning your league ?
Supplying one player a year to your first team squad?
Having bigger clubs steals your schoolboy talent?

We have supplied kids who have gone onto making a living from football, its a tough business and older players are staying fit longer and squads are bigger so getting breaks is more difficult. Its important that players like Harris end up in L1 or L2 as it shows staying at city may allow you to stay in the game. Ending up in semi pro isn't a great advert.

But now we have Colwill eventually breaking through although the "support" for him from a lot of our fans is shocking. Issak Davies may end up like Harris in L1 but it's a positve.
Eli King has already shown he is better than L2 so that promising then Colwill Junior looks ahead of schedule and maybe Ashford we also have Antwi (not academy I know)

So perhaps its not that bad !!!!

Nice doesn't come into it, we have to hire ruthlessness ability. Now we have kids being brought up with a mentality of losing and we are expecting them to carry positivity as they try to break into the first-team frame.

The millions spend down at the Llanrumney Academy will be wasted hiring coaches who should only be operating in that Dog & Duck League, otherwise known the Welsh PL

For once, I agree with you; it simply cannot be breeding positivity and/or confidence when a team are going out with their heads already down...

Sam had the right idea, when he had the Academy upgraded to 'elite' status. With current FFP, the future for clubs such as ourselves is surely to create our own players and supplement them with good signings...?

What does "good" look like for the academy?

Winning your league ?
Supplying one player a year to your first team squad?
Having bigger clubs steals your schoolboy talent?

We have supplied kids who have gone onto making a living from football, its a tough business and older players are staying fit longer and squads are bigger so getting breaks is more difficult. Its important that players like Harris end up in L1 or L2 as it shows staying at city may allow you to stay in the game. Ending up in semi pro isn't a great advert.

But now we have Colwill eventually breaking through although the "support" for him from a lot of our fans is shocking. Issak Davies may end up like Harris in L1 but it's a positve.
Eli King has already shown he is better than L2 so that promising then Colwill Junior looks ahead of schedule and maybe Ashford we also have Antwi (not academy I know)

So perhaps its not that bl ad !!!!

As in all walks, the cream will rise to the top, but I feel our club is short on genuine product; and has been for some time...

Darren Purse and Chesterfield are without doubt not good enough and are there because they are Cheap.

We are going backwards under them Both and not forward.