Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:03 pm
Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:21 pm
Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:22 pm
Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:34 pm
EastleighBlue wrote:Sounds like the club have got what they want which is a smoking gun to implicate Nantes.
Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:37 pm
wez1927 wrote:Here's what I think happened. He's handed over everything Cardiff wanted and it will help Cardiff to get their monies back and there case against Nantes. If he was involved, Nantes will end up being liable.
Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:43 pm
Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:44 pm
Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:46 pm
wez1927 wrote:Here's what I think happened. He's handed over everything Cardiff wanted and it will help Cardiff to get their monies back and there case against Nantes. If he was involved, Nantes will end up being liable.
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:11 pm
Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Here's what I think happened. He's handed over everything Cardiff wanted and it will help Cardiff to get their monies back and there case against Nantes. If he was involved, Nantes will end up being liable.
I agree Wez, City could not get money of him so he has agreed to hand over all the paperwork etc
Willie Mckay is a bankrupt.
City have so far spent well over £30mill plus in transfer fee, fines, interest, court costs and Solicitors & Barristers.
We have had approx £10mill back through the insurance.
City are now taking Nantes to a Civil Court Case.
https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:12 pm
wez1927 wrote:Here's what I think happened. He's handed over everything Cardiff wanted and it will help Cardiff to get their monies back and there case against Nantes. If he was involved, Nantes will end up being liable.
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:35 pm
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:48 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Here's what I think happened. He's handed over everything Cardiff wanted and it will help Cardiff to get their monies back and there case against Nantes. If he was involved, Nantes will end up being liable.
I agree Wez, City could not get money of him so he has agreed to hand over all the paperwork etc
Willie Mckay is a bankrupt.
City have so far spent well over £30mill plus in transfer fee, fines, interest, court costs and Solicitors & Barristers.
We have had approx £10mill back through the insurance.
City are now taking Nantes to a Civil Court Case.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226
Hopefully we get all that money back and it gets invested in thecteam as it will be able to be used for transfers as its already been account for
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:50 pm
We could take the club into administration. Or even bust it will get paid .MikeO76 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Here's what I think happened. He's handed over everything Cardiff wanted and it will help Cardiff to get their monies back and there case against Nantes. If he was involved, Nantes will end up being liable.
I agree Wez, City could not get money of him so he has agreed to hand over all the paperwork etc
Willie Mckay is a bankrupt.
City have so far spent well over £30mill plus in transfer fee, fines, interest, court costs and Solicitors & Barristers.
We have had approx £10mill back through the insurance.
City are now taking Nantes to a Civil Court Case.
https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226
Hopefully we get all that money back and it gets invested in thecteam as it will be able to be used for transfers as its already been account for
Do we know how much Cardiff want? If it's the £60m I've heard Nantes won't have that kind money so we'll probably have to except it in annual payments over x amount of years. Or maybe a player or 3.
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:53 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:We all know the bloke is financially bent.
I blame the club on a lot of things, but can’t blame them for the stuff this bloke has done.
He’s a mate of Warnock’s. I was told this days after the Sala news and said it on here but was slated.
Fact is Warnock and this leech were and have been in it together.
My opinion is he should be in prison for life, he heavily contributed to the death of an innocent individual.
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:54 pm
wez1927 wrote:We could take the club into administration. Or even bust it will get paid .MikeO76 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Here's what I think happened. He's handed over everything Cardiff wanted and it will help Cardiff to get their monies back and there case against Nantes. If he was involved, Nantes will end up being liable.
I agree Wez, City could not get money of him so he has agreed to hand over all the paperwork etc
Willie Mckay is a bankrupt.
City have so far spent well over £30mill plus in transfer fee, fines, interest, court costs and Solicitors & Barristers.
We have had approx £10mill back through the insurance.
City are now taking Nantes to a Civil Court Case.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226
Hopefully we get all that money back and it gets invested in thecteam as it will be able to be used for transfers as its already been account for
Do we know how much Cardiff want? If it's the £60m I've heard Nantes won't have that kind money so we'll probably have to except it in annual payments over x amount of years. Or maybe a player or 3.
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:56 pm
Forever Blue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:We all know the bloke is financially bent.
I blame the club on a lot of things, but can’t blame them for the stuff this bloke has done.
He’s a mate of Warnock’s. I was told this days after the Sala news and said it on here but was slated.
Fact is Warnock and this leech were and have been in it together.
My opinion is he should be in prison for life, he heavily contributed to the death of an innocent individual.
Spot on Ned.
But don’t forget Willie Mckays two Sons were in our U21’s team and Warnock was his mate.
I will say it again as I did say we would lose all the Legal Court Cases ( I was proven right on everyone one of them) , Nantes will not be found guilty of any of this as he was not their player when he went back to France, they are liable for nothing.
Sala went back of his own accord and did it for his own personal reasons.
Don’t forget for two yrs our board try to deny Emiliano Sala was not our player.
Nantes are not liable for Sala after he became our player.
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:59 pm
Forever Blue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:We all know the bloke is financially bent.
I blame the club on a lot of things, but can’t blame them for the stuff this bloke has done.
He’s a mate of Warnock’s. I was told this days after the Sala news and said it on here but was slated.
Fact is Warnock and this leech were and have been in it together.
My opinion is he should be in prison for life, he heavily contributed to the death of an innocent individual.
Spot on Ned.
But don’t forget Willie Mckays two Sons were in our U21’s team and Warnock was his mate.
I will say it again as I did say we would lose all the Legal Court Cases , Nantes will not be found guilty of any of this as he was not their player when he went back to France, they are liable for nothing.
Don’t forget for two yrs our board try to deny Emiliano Sala was not our player.
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:59 pm
Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:01 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:We all know the bloke is financially bent.
I blame the club on a lot of things, but can’t blame them for the stuff this bloke has done.
He’s a mate of Warnock’s. I was told this days after the Sala news and said it on here but was slated.
Fact is Warnock and this leech were and have been in it together.
My opinion is he should be in prison for life, he heavily contributed to the death of an innocent individual.
Spot on Ned.
But don’t forget Willie Mckays two Sons were in our U21’s team and Warnock was his mate.
I will say it again as I did say we would lose all the Legal Court Cases ( I was proven right on everyone one of them) , Nantes will not be found guilty of any of this as he was not their player when he went back to France, they are liable for nothing.
Sala went back of his own accord and did it for his own personal reasons.
Don’t forget for two yrs our board try to deny Emiliano Sala was not our player.
Nantes are not liable for Sala after he became our player.
I dont agree with you at all , premier league and pfa still don't think he was our player but this case isn't about if he was our player or not it's moved on since then , it's the use of unlicensed agents and the liability of that .
Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:05 pm
wez1927 wrote:Ultimately Nantes used a unlicensed agent to sell there player , the agent then organised an illegal flight proven in court! , the player (asset) was lost due to there unlicensed agents actions . It doesn't matter who the player was registered too ,
Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:10 pm
kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Ultimately Nantes used a unlicensed agent to sell there player , the agent then organised an illegal flight proven in court! , the player (asset) was lost due to there unlicensed agents actions . It doesn't matter who the player was registered too ,
but the other courts ruled against us so why would this be any different ? even if true using unlicensed agents is a points deduction for a club nothing more ?
Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:12 pm
Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:We all know the bloke is financially bent.
I blame the club on a lot of things, but can’t blame them for the stuff this bloke has done.
He’s a mate of Warnock’s. I was told this days after the Sala news and said it on here but was slated.
Fact is Warnock and this leech were and have been in it together.
My opinion is he should be in prison for life, he heavily contributed to the death of an innocent individual.
Spot on Ned.
But don’t forget Willie Mckays two Sons were in our U21’s team and Warnock was his mate.
I will say it again as I did say we would lose all the Legal Court Cases ( I was proven right on everyone one of them) , Nantes will not be found guilty of any of this as he was not their player when he went back to France, they are liable for nothing.
Sala went back of his own accord and did it for his own personal reasons.
Don’t forget for two yrs our board try to deny Emiliano Sala was not our player.
Nantes are not liable for Sala after he became our player.
I dont agree with you at all , premier league and pfa still don't think he was our player but this case isn't about if he was our player or not it's moved on since then , it's the use of unlicensed agents and the liability of that .
https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226
You did not agree with me before every Court Case and we lost All three.
We are having to do any Civil (private) Court Case as we lost all the others.
This will be costly to us and We won’t win.
I will leave it there as I did all those other cases.
https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226
Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:14 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:We all know the bloke is financially bent.
I blame the club on a lot of things, but can’t blame them for the stuff this bloke has done.
He’s a mate of Warnock’s. I was told this days after the Sala news and said it on here but was slated.
Fact is Warnock and this leech were and have been in it together.
My opinion is he should be in prison for life, he heavily contributed to the death of an innocent individual.
Spot on Ned.
But don’t forget Willie Mckays two Sons were in our U21’s team and Warnock was his mate.
I will say it again as I did say we would lose all the Legal Court Cases ( I was proven right on everyone one of them) , Nantes will not be found guilty of any of this as he was not their player when he went back to France, they are liable for nothing.
Sala went back of his own accord and did it for his own personal reasons.
Don’t forget for two yrs our board try to deny Emiliano Sala was not our player.
Nantes are not liable for Sala after he became our player.
I dont agree with you at all , premier league and pfa still don't think he was our player but this case isn't about if he was our player or not it's moved on since then , it's the use of unlicensed agents and the liability of that .
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226
You did not agree with me before every Court Case and we lost All three.
We are having to do any Civil (private) Court Case as we lost all the others.
This will be costly to us and We won’t win.
I will leave it there as I did all those other cases.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226
Annis we won against the insurance company , we've won aginst McKay today these are now civil courts and are nothing to do with player registration. These out of court settlements are coz the likelihood is that we have a case I have no doubt that Nantes will end upbsettling out of court due to McKays involvement the evidence is damming .
Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:27 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:We all know the bloke is financially bent.
I blame the club on a lot of things, but can’t blame them for the stuff this bloke has done.
He’s a mate of Warnock’s. I was told this days after the Sala news and said it on here but was slated.
Fact is Warnock and this leech were and have been in it together.
My opinion is he should be in prison for life, he heavily contributed to the death of an innocent individual.
Spot on Ned.
But don’t forget Willie Mckays two Sons were in our U21’s team and Warnock was his mate.
I will say it again as I did say we would lose all the Legal Court Cases ( I was proven right on everyone one of them) , Nantes will not be found guilty of any of this as he was not their player when he went back to France, they are liable for nothing.
Sala went back of his own accord and did it for his own personal reasons.
Don’t forget for two yrs our board try to deny Emiliano Sala was not our player.
Nantes are not liable for Sala after he became our player.
I dont agree with you at all , premier league and pfa still don't think he was our player but this case isn't about if he was our player or not it's moved on since then , it's the use of unlicensed agents and the liability of that .
https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226
You did not agree with me before every Court Case and we lost All three.
We are having to do any Civil (private) Court Case as we lost all the others.
This will be costly to us and We won’t win.
I will leave it there as I did all those other cases.
https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226
Annis we won against the insurance company , we've won aginst McKay today these are now civil courts and are nothing to do with player registration. These out of court settlements are coz the likelihood is that we have a case I have no doubt that Nantes will end upbsettling out of court due to McKays involvement the evidence is damming .
Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:06 pm
Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:We all know the bloke is financially bent.
I blame the club on a lot of things, but can’t blame them for the stuff this bloke has done.
He’s a mate of Warnock’s. I was told this days after the Sala news and said it on here but was slated.
Fact is Warnock and this leech were and have been in it together.
My opinion is he should be in prison for life, he heavily contributed to the death of an innocent individual.
Spot on Ned.
But don’t forget Willie Mckays two Sons were in our U21’s team and Warnock was his mate.
I will say it again as I did say we would lose all the Legal Court Cases ( I was proven right on everyone one of them) , Nantes will not be found guilty of any of this as he was not their player when he went back to France, they are liable for nothing.
Sala went back of his own accord and did it for his own personal reasons.
Don’t forget for two yrs our board try to deny Emiliano Sala was not our player.
Nantes are not liable for Sala after he became our player.
I dont agree with you at all , premier league and pfa still don't think he was our player but this case isn't about if he was our player or not it's moved on since then , it's the use of unlicensed agents and the liability of that .
https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226
You did not agree with me before every Court Case and we lost All three.
We are having to do any Civil (private) Court Case as we lost all the others.
This will be costly to us and We won’t win.
I will leave it there as I did all those other cases.
https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226
Annis we won against the insurance company , we've won aginst McKay today these are now civil courts and are nothing to do with player registration. These out of court settlements are coz the likelihood is that we have a case I have no doubt that Nantes will end upbsettling out of court due to McKays involvement the evidence is damming .
McKay was to demand to see all the paper work and rightly so.
The insurance company tried to say we had not insured Sala properly, we never got the full value
Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:10 pm
JB1 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:We all know the bloke is financially bent.
I blame the club on a lot of things, but can’t blame them for the stuff this bloke has done.
He’s a mate of Warnock’s. I was told this days after the Sala news and said it on here but was slated.
Fact is Warnock and this leech were and have been in it together.
My opinion is he should be in prison for life, he heavily contributed to the death of an innocent individual.
Spot on Ned.
But don’t forget Willie Mckays two Sons were in our U21’s team and Warnock was his mate.
I will say it again as I did say we would lose all the Legal Court Cases ( I was proven right on everyone one of them) , Nantes will not be found guilty of any of this as he was not their player when he went back to France, they are liable for nothing.
Sala went back of his own accord and did it for his own personal reasons.
Don’t forget for two yrs our board try to deny Emiliano Sala was not our player.
Nantes are not liable for Sala after he became our player.
I dont agree with you at all , premier league and pfa still don't think he was our player but this case isn't about if he was our player or not it's moved on since then , it's the use of unlicensed agents and the liability of that .
https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226
You did not agree with me before every Court Case and we lost All three.
We are having to do any Civil (private) Court Case as we lost all the others.
This will be costly to us and We won’t win.
I will leave it there as I did all those other cases.
https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226
Annis we won against the insurance company , we've won aginst McKay today these are now civil courts and are nothing to do with player registration. These out of court settlements are coz the likelihood is that we have a case I have no doubt that Nantes will end upbsettling out of court due to McKays involvement the evidence is damming .
McKay was to demand to see all the paper work and rightly so.
The insurance company tried to say we had not insured Sala properly, we never got the full value
You can't argue we lost these cases. You reckon it was £10 million.. should the club not have bothered? With McKays evidence, it'll be interesting to see where this goes..
Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:17 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:We all know the bloke is financially bent.
I blame the club on a lot of things, but can’t blame them for the stuff this bloke has done.
He’s a mate of Warnock’s. I was told this days after the Sala news and said it on here but was slated.
Fact is Warnock and this leech were and have been in it together.
My opinion is he should be in prison for life, he heavily contributed to the death of an innocent individual.
Spot on Ned.
But don’t forget Willie Mckays two Sons were in our U21’s team and Warnock was his mate.
I will say it again as I did say we would lose all the Legal Court Cases ( I was proven right on everyone one of them) , Nantes will not be found guilty of any of this as he was not their player when he went back to France, they are liable for nothing.
Sala went back of his own accord and did it for his own personal reasons.
Don’t forget for two yrs our board try to deny Emiliano Sala was not our player.
Nantes are not liable for Sala after he became our player.
I dont agree with you at all , premier league and pfa still don't think he was our player but this case isn't about if he was our player or not it's moved on since then , it's the use of unlicensed agents and the liability of that .
Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:28 pm
piledriver64 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:We all know the bloke is financially bent.
I blame the club on a lot of things, but can’t blame them for the stuff this bloke has done.
He’s a mate of Warnock’s. I was told this days after the Sala news and said it on here but was slated.
Fact is Warnock and this leech were and have been in it together.
My opinion is he should be in prison for life, he heavily contributed to the death of an innocent individual.
Spot on Ned.
But don’t forget Willie Mckays two Sons were in our U21’s team and Warnock was his mate.
I will say it again as I did say we would lose all the Legal Court Cases ( I was proven right on everyone one of them) , Nantes will not be found guilty of any of this as he was not their player when he went back to France, they are liable for nothing.
Sala went back of his own accord and did it for his own personal reasons.
Don’t forget for two yrs our board try to deny Emiliano Sala was not our player.
Nantes are not liable for Sala after he became our player.
I dont agree with you at all , premier league and pfa still don't think he was our player but this case isn't about if he was our player or not it's moved on since then , it's the use of unlicensed agents and the liability of that .
I wouldn’t like to call this and whatever happens I don’t think this is as cut and dried as Forever Blue has stated.
Firstly this is the second case that the club hasn’t “lost”. The case against the insurers got them £10m (as far as we can guess) and now this case against McKay has got them at least documentation to help their case against Nantes and who knows what that contains ?
In addition, the statement from McKay seems to allude to him helping the club in their claim against Nantes. That may well refer to the documentation but could also include either a witness statement from him or a commitment to be a witness for the club at any subsequent hearing.
If we’ve paid out £30m so far as claimed in other posts, we’ve already got £10m and if we win/settle the Nantes case for £20m or more then we would have restored our good name and reputation for a minimum zero net outlay. In all likelihood if we do negotiate/win such an outcome then it will also include a contribution to those costs.
I’m not saying that any of this is certain but I do think, and have said all along, that there is enough of a question mark to make all of these cases absolutely justified to safeguard our clubs finances.
Let’s see how this Nantes case goes now but I have a feeling that they may well want to settle this case before trial after this development and whilst we know we’ll never get anything like the sums claimed we may well get enough to give the manager some money to spend in the summer and stay within FFP.
Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:43 pm
Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:55 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:We all know the bloke is financially bent.
I blame the club on a lot of things, but can’t blame them for the stuff this bloke has done.
He’s a mate of Warnock’s. I was told this days after the Sala news and said it on here but was slated.
Fact is Warnock and this leech were and have been in it together.
My opinion is he should be in prison for life, he heavily contributed to the death of an innocent individual.
Spot on Ned.
But don’t forget Willie Mckays two Sons were in our U21’s team and Warnock was his mate.
I will say it again as I did say we would lose all the Legal Court Cases ( I was proven right on everyone one of them) , Nantes will not be found guilty of any of this as he was not their player when he went back to France, they are liable for nothing.
Sala went back of his own accord and did it for his own personal reasons.
Don’t forget for two yrs our board try to deny Emiliano Sala was not our player.
Nantes are not liable for Sala after he became our player.
I dont agree with you at all , premier league and pfa still don't think he was our player but this case isn't about if he was our player or not it's moved on since then , it's the use of unlicensed agents and the liability of that .
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226
You did not agree with me before every Court Case and we lost All three.
We are having to do any Civil (private) Court Case as we lost all the others.
This will be costly to us and We won’t win.
I will leave it there as I did all those other cases.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226
Annis we won against the insurance company , we've won aginst McKay today these are now civil courts and are nothing to do with player registration. These out of court settlements are coz the likelihood is that we have a case I have no doubt that Nantes will end upbsettling out of court due to McKays involvement the evidence is damming .
We know you’ll stick with Tan on it all.
Said my bit. Like I said, actually don’t blame Tan for what happened because it’s Warnock and his mates. I said this days after Sala signed those contracts to be our player.
What I do blame Tan for is costing us millions in court cases that we didn’t have a prayer of winning.
He just have legal advisors that he ignored.