Tan / Dalman and this predictable style of football

Sorry for the length of this one!

Yes I am very angry with EB. But its equally at Tan / Dalman as it is their appointment. Not that of a football man. Surely if they actually did their homework on EB they could see what tactics and style of play we were getting.

Once again we have another in a succession of manager appointments that is guilty of stubbornness and lack of imagination, adaptability, fluidity and creativity with his tactics, selection, philosophy and substitutions. add to that one game plan, no plan B,C or D. And the only consistency we have is not performances or results, its sideways and backwards passing, a reluctance to give our one attacking forward fluid thinking player a license of trust to roam and express himself.

EB sets up not to be beaten, not to win.

Following a long line of managers post Dave Jones. Its become a Cardiff Way. Not very attractive football, grind out a win, concede lots of possession, over run in midfield etc. I honestly think EB did not know what he was doing on Saturday, he was all over the shop with his substitutions.

Rubin was our best player on the pitch at Watford, I was there and every game I do my Rubin watch throughout, (still beggars belief how Watford didnt score) yet next game he gets dropped. And what message does that send out?

Siopis, Wintle, Ralls must never ever be allowed to play as a 3 again in EBs formation, in fact only away against technically superior teams would I consider playing two of them together. Under this tame rigid 4-2-3-1 It should be one from Ralls, Siopis and Wintle and two from Ramsey, Turnbull and Rubin, the latter should be first name on the team sheet currently. He beats players far better than any of our wingers.

Wingers are dreadful. Bowler cannot make it to the byline constantly cutting inside, poor delivery. Predictable. Grant works hard, pacy, strong but awful delivery also,predictable, if I was a full back I would relish putting both these lads in my pocket.

Upfront Etete would not get into Wrexham or Newports first 11. Yes a league 2 player is our CF. Predicatable. Time will tell on the new guy. Again a centre backs dream to play against.

It does not take a lot of homework to do a number against us particularly at CCS. FFS even a laughing stock Wayne Rooney did a number on Bulut along with poor teams like QPR, and Preston. Yes Bulut outdone by a losing streak hapless Rooney. Word travels quickly around the coaches in our league, Cardiff? Easy to plan for and line up against.

Bulut may pull off his lack of plan B rigid 4-2-3-1 with everyone tackling back in Turkey, it does not work here, its naive and screams of a culture difference.

Why not try a 4-1-2-3 or a 4-1-4-1 or something to accommodate a fit Ramsey and Colwill together who will both offer better variety and creativity for our toothless forwards than Bowler and Grant.

Goals for, we are 17th! Points at home, we are 16th!

I want to see our teams having a go, trying things, pass the ball forward! bodies in the box, shots at goal where keepers can parry or spill, our sideways backwards play is a style of football that has become a trademark almost , so that's on Tan and Dalman. There will be no change in this style with these clowns in charge, as angry as I am with Bulut, not to mention criticizing players publicly, its our owner and yes man politician sidekick who will continue to keep us in this rut of style-less football and continue to appoint the right men to deliver it. And with Tan still feeling burned by Murphy and Cornelius will continue to tell them to shop in the free and bargain market.

Still, thank you EB for the two derby wins they were great (against 2 shit teams on the day)

I'll be there at The Hawthorns getting behind Bulut and the boys, nonetheless. But I will be fine if he gets the boot or walks.

And yes, Cooper is out of our reach now, Nathan Jones has a new job, so I have given up on an alternative suggestion, because post Dave Jones, City have never appointed a manager who was in my personal top 3 realistic choices. All my choices liked to play front foot forward thinking footy.

Probably Darren Purse is buying a new blue tie in readiness.

Ill be loud and proud at WBA

Thats alright about the length of your post.

You can come on here and get it off your chest. We will try not to laugh at the same time.

Thats alright about the length of your post.

You can come on here and get it off your chest. We will try not to laugh at the same time.

Wow happy with our playing style then ? I see no laughing matter, mates texting me saying they are staying away from CCS and watching local football. I am hearing the same from friends of friends and colleagues.

Solskjaer, Slade, Trollope, Harris, McCarthy, Morisson, Hudson Lamouchi and now Bulut. All Tans appointments over a decade.

Not laughing.

It is down to Erol Bulut our boring / dire football and toothless in front of goal.

Plus as you say those two derby wins in my view is what’s saving him.

I remember people warned us about his style of play, first part of the season wasnt the case but it is now. Try not to lose, get that 1 nil win

I remember people warned us about his style of play, first part of the season wasnt the case but it is now. Try not to lose, get that 1 nil win

Maybe thats why Tan / Dalman got him then!

As always I will support him and the players during the 90 mins up there tomorrow night. Post match is different, thats the time to voice opinion and rants! .I hope he proves us wrong, we need to stop the merry go round. I just cant see it at all. And to change formation and style will take time, better a new man introduce that rather than EB implement something he isn't fully behind or isn't massively familiar with. Hes following his predecessors. And its been obvious for months.

Even if we win tomorrow night, and Colwill plays, please Erol celebrate and encourage what Rubin can bring to the game and not publicly criticize him for a part of the game that isnt essentially his main role. Im not saying RC is the answer , theres lots to learn, but hes the only player we have that has the ability to beat a man and have us playing on the front foot, fluid, attacking. Certainly the only player we have in an attacking sense than can acutally excite me. Thing is with the lack of creative movment ahead of him, even he has to revert to Siopis, Wintle, Ralls sideways passing!

Yes good post, the wing play is poor and we never seem to get to the byline. Another thing under Dave Jones, there was a gradual improvement in players performance, however, under Bulit some seem to get worse Ng in particular.

Yes good post, the wing play is poor and we never seem to get to the byline. Another thing under Dave Jones, there was a gradual improvement in players performance, however, under Bulit some seem to get worse Ng in particular.

Good post yerself, I forget at just how much players like Kev, Burke, Bothroyd, Whitts, McCormack, Johnson, Ledley etc improved under Jones, thats what we want to see again. Player development.

Yeh another great post
Sadly it’s all true
Could be a painful next few months
Shit ain’t going to change until we have new owners
Sooner new owners the better , for the sake of this club which could be so great

I remember people warned us about his style of play, first part of the season wasnt the case but it is now. Try not to lose, get that 1 nil win

Remember that - Would have taken 1-0 Wins of late .

Sorry for the length of this one!

Yes I am very angry with EB. But its equally at Tan / Dalman as it is their appointment. Not that of a football man. Surely if they actually did their homework on EB they could see what tactics and style of play we were getting.

Once again we have another in a succession of manager appointments that is guilty of stubbornness and lack of imagination, adaptability, fluidity and creativity with his tactics, selection, philosophy and substitutions. add to that one game plan, no plan B,C or D. And the only consistency we have is not performances or results, its sideways and backwards passing, a reluctance to give our one attacking forward fluid thinking player a license of trust to roam and express himself.

EB sets up not to be beaten, not to win.

Following a long line of managers post Dave Jones. Its become a Cardiff Way. Not very attractive football, grind out a win, concede lots of possession, over run in midfield etc. I honestly think EB did not know what he was doing on Saturday, he was all over the shop with his substitutions.

Rubin was our best player on the pitch at Watford, I was there and every game I do my Rubin watch throughout, (still beggars belief how Watford didnt score) yet next game he gets dropped. And what message does that send out?

Siopis, Wintle, Ralls must never ever be allowed to play as a 3 again in EBs formation, in fact only away against technically superior teams would I consider playing two of them together. Under this tame rigid 4-2-3-1 It should be one from Ralls, Siopis and Wintle and two from Ramsey, Turnbull and Rubin, the latter should be first name on the team sheet currently. He beats players far better than any of our wingers.

Wingers are dreadful. Bowler cannot make it to the byline constantly cutting inside, poor delivery. Predictable. Grant works hard, pacy, strong but awful delivery also,predictable, if I was a full back I would relish putting both these lads in my pocket.

Upfront Etete would not get into Wrexham or Newports first 11. Yes a league 2 player is our CF. Predicatable. Time will tell on the new guy. Again a centre backs dream to play against.

It does not take a lot of homework to do a number against us particularly at CCS. FFS even a laughing stock Wayne Rooney did a number on Bulut along with poor teams like QPR, and Preston. Yes Bulut outdone by a losing streak hapless Rooney. Word travels quickly around the coaches in our league, Cardiff? Easy to plan for and line up against.

Bulut may pull off his lack of plan B rigid 4-2-3-1 with everyone tackling back in Turkey, it does not work here, its naive and screams of a culture difference.

Why not try a 4-1-2-3 or a 4-1-4-1 or something to accommodate a fit Ramsey and Colwill together who will both offer better variety and creativity for our toothless forwards than Bowler and Grant.

Goals for, we are 17th! Points at home, we are 16th!

I want to see our teams having a go, trying things, pass the ball forward! bodies in the box, shots at goal where keepers can parry or spill, our sideways backwards play is a style of football that has become a trademark almost , so that's on Tan and Dalman. There will be no change in this style with these clowns in charge, as angry as I am with Bulut, not to mention criticizing players publicly, its our owner and yes man politician sidekick who will continue to keep us in this rut of style-less football and continue to appoint the right men to deliver it. And with Tan still feeling burned by Murphy and Cornelius will continue to tell them to shop in the free and bargain market.

Still, thank you EB for the two derby wins they were great (against 2 shit teams on the day)

I'll be there at The Hawthorns getting behind Bulut and the boys, nonetheless. But I will be fine if he gets the boot or walks.

And yes, Cooper is out of our reach now, Nathan Jones has a new job, so I have given up on an alternative suggestion, because post Dave Jones, City have never appointed a manager who was in my personal top 3 realistic choices. All my choices liked to play front foot forward thinking footy.

Probably Darren Purse is buying a new blue tie in readiness.

Ill be loud and proud at WBA

Tanledupinblue it's a great post, and what most true football have been saying for months at ccfc

Nobody likes too much change, but when players are going backwards , (as you say I can't think of one who
seems to have improved his form) there are no patterns of play, wholesale panic team changes at half time,
i really think Erol is not the man.

I've got a horrible feeling the midfield you don't want to see may be out there this evening at West Brom! Bulut's treatment of Rubin Colwill nothing short of disgraceful. Leaving him out last Saturday after his performance at Watford was unforgivable, he should have been first name on the team sheet! It also sends poor signs out to his brother Joel, and the other youngsters knocking the door. This business of tracking back putting a shift in, is destroying any creative side.Let your creative players CREATE!

Also as you've mentioned, the entertainment value at home is a huge turn off, Bulut not learning from his mistakes. I'm all for not changing for the sake, BUT the manager must be put to the sword. If he thinks the crowds will flock in watching his
tactics for the past few months, he's very much mistaken! Mt Tan is no fool either, as a spectacle our home games are -10


I'd also find a team to incorporate both Colwill and Ramsey at home. Why is he so scared of any team visiting our stadium?
Ditch the inverted wingers, it has never worked apart from Bowler's wonder strike. We NEVER get be'hind teams, down the sides, crosses into the box non existent, midfield rarely in front of Etete, who really should be in league's a lot lower. It's not rocket science that we barely lay a glove on opposition goal?

A really tough month coming up, with two derbies on the horizon. Let's see what EB comes up with, and listen to any more excuses. I'm not holding my breath.

Great Dylan tune by the way!

Wiggy

Tangledupinblue and Wiggy

Spot on boys.

To add to the lengthy and correct (NOT negative) rants, I'd say that Bowler only steps inside because he's on the wrong wing!

Expecting a 2 or 3-0 defeat this evening as EB will NOT change shape or philosophy - perhaps because he doesn't believe in any other way of playing.

We could still get relegated and that would be disastrous after the early season fanfare / positivity.

It is down to Erol Bulut our boring / dire football and toothless in front of goal.

Plus as you say those two derby wins in my view is what’s saving him.

Agree as we weren't boring up to November time we high pressed and attacked teams .