Does bulut already know ?

Does the manager already know he's not getting a contract and the players aswell so none of them are motivated ?


Looking back at he start when we won those games in a row I was like wow the press the passing the aggression was just quality.


Then come closer to the transfer window tactics changed players seemed half assed sloppy goals slow build up lack of goals from open play the list goes on.

This seems to me that it's get safe get paid and leave type of thing going on ? If that is the case the what is the plans for the club I just want to know what the clubs long term aims are obviously trying managers who has never managed in this league just don't work out for us.


So maybe at the end of the season it is time to now get a proven long term manager with a 5 year plan a project us fans can all get behind and believe in. It's been a nightmare for us fans for a long while now and we all need a lift it's clear to see.

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I'm not seeing a lack of motivation myself.

A lack of quality, confidence and confusion - yes.

Wintle, for example, emptied his tank yesterday but had zero influence other than reverse passing and chasing shadows.

I'm not seeing a lack of motivation myself.

A lack of quality, confidence and confusion - yes.

Wintle, for example, emptied his tank yesterday but had zero influence other than reverse passing and chasing shadows.

bowler can never be bothered to hurry and get the ball back when he looses it collins etete all the same maybe its not motivation then and its just confidence its very lackluster

I'm not seeing a lack of motivation myself.

A lack of quality, confidence and confusion - yes.

Wintle, for example, emptied his tank yesterday but had zero influence other than reverse passing and chasing shadows.

Same here...!

Erol Bulut was apoplectic with rage at times last night. He's still gelling his team and I honestly believe these stories about him being disillysioned and/or ready to leave started on this Forum and simply gathered pace amongst those with an agenda and those who can't think for themselves...

I don’t believe for one second that Bulut doesn’t care. Don’t forget he got a yellow card on Saturday for overstepping the mark on his passion.

I also don’t believe the players don’t have motivation, they were better last night and they were putting in the effort.

We just aren’t playing well at the moment, that’s all it is.

I believe Bulut realises he is not being backed and they have not been working with him.

Keith Morgan( aka Dalman) reckons he has already been offered a new contract but Bulut denies that.

I do believe he believes he is a winner , but I believe the Championship is way to much for him and results say that and the standard of football.

I'm not seeing a lack of motivation myself.

A lack of quality, confidence and confusion - yes.

Wintle, for example, emptied his tank yesterday but had zero influence other than reverse passing and chasing shadows.

Same here...!

Erol Bulut was apoplectic with rage at times last night. He's still gelling his team and I honestly believe these stories about him being disillysioned and/or ready to leave started on this Forum and simply gathered pace amongst those with an agenda and those who can't think for themselves...

to be fair its all over twitter even the turkish guys on there saying hes going and that hes fed up. im seeing a totally different spirit when they go on the pitch these past few weeks something is off you can sense it. granted fans booing and moaning all the time dont help but its there right to do it.

Five year contract?

We fans don’t give our managers five games before we start having a pop at them.

It’s not everyone, but after a couple of losses people get on their back.

It’s endemic. It breeds through to the players and their confidence gets shot.

We need Ted Lasso.

I'm not seeing a lack of motivation myself.

A lack of quality, confidence and confusion - yes.

Wintle, for example, emptied his tank yesterday but had zero influence other than reverse passing and chasing shadows.

Same here...!

Erol Bulut was apoplectic with rage at times last night. He's still gelling his team and I honestly believe these stories about him being disillysioned and/or ready to leave started on this Forum and simply gathered pace amongst those with an agenda and those who can't think for themselves...

to be fair its all over twitter even the turkish guys on there saying hes going and that hes fed up. im seeing a totally different spirit when they go on the pitch these past few weeks something is off you can sense it. granted fans booing and moaning all the time dont help but its there right to do it.

These “Turkish guys” know no more than we do. Remember when they were saying we signing certain players and Bulut himself said it was rubbish?

It’s like us knowing for some strange reason what Gareth Bale’s plans are all the time which we don’t.

With the next 3 games of Norwich (away), Blackburn (home), Stoke (home), if we fail to win at least one of those, I can't see the manager staying beyond. Resignation or sack!
He sounded disallusioned during the transfer window.
Sure, we signed a few players last minute, but they've hardly made much impression. I can't imagine he feels any different.
The team lacks pace and is certainly goal shy. Too reliant on the return of Aaron Ramsey.
I, for one thought we should offer him another 12 months on his contract, but we may be beyond that.

I'm not seeing a lack of motivation myself.

A lack of quality, confidence and confusion - yes.

Wintle, for example, emptied his tank yesterday but had zero influence other than reverse passing and chasing shadows.

Same here...!

Erol Bulut was apoplectic with rage at times last night. He's still gelling his team and I honestly believe these stories about him being disillysioned and/or ready to leave started on this Forum and simply gathered pace amongst those with an agenda and those who can't think for themselves...

to be fair its all over twitter even the turkish guys on there saying hes going and that hes fed up. im seeing a totally different spirit when they go on the pitch these past few weeks something is off you can sense it. granted fans booing and moaning all the time dont help but its there right to do it.

These “Turkish guys” know no more than we do. Remember when they were saying we signing certain players and Bulut himself said it was rubbish?

It’s like us knowing for some strange reason what Gareth Bale’s plans are all the time which we don’t.

Bulut even said he wanted one or two of then but the board didn't work fast enough to sign then or couldn't afford them due to ffp? So they where right in most what they said.i remember him saying he would want baka but couldn't afford his wages

I'm not seeing a lack of motivation myself.

A lack of quality, confidence and confusion - yes.

Wintle, for example, emptied his tank yesterday but had zero influence other than reverse passing and chasing shadows.

Same here...!

Erol Bulut was apoplectic with rage at times last night. He's still gelling his team and I honestly believe these stories about him being disillysioned and/or ready to leave started on this Forum and simply gathered pace amongst those with an agenda and those who can't think for themselves...

to be fair its all over twitter even the turkish guys on there saying hes going and that hes fed up. im seeing a totally different spirit when they go on the pitch these past few weeks something is off you can sense it. granted fans booing and moaning all the time dont help but its there right to do it.

These “Turkish guys” know no more than we do. Remember when they were saying we signing certain players and Bulut himself said it was rubbish?

It’s like us knowing for some strange reason what Gareth Bale’s plans are all the time which we don’t.

That last bit isnt quite true now is it, there are some fans on here that know exactly what Gareth Bale and even Moore is thinking, as they are the ones that said they were both coming here, however the same fans forgot to mention that they new both had changed their minds (obviously) due to better deals offered else where.

They will also say they knew Rambo was coming but don’t mention that he was the only one that said publicly he will do whatever it takes to play for city again as he wanted to give back to the club where it all started.

Note; before the slating starts the above is said with a hint of tongue in cheek.

I'm not seeing a lack of motivation myself.

A lack of quality, confidence and confusion - yes.

Wintle, for example, emptied his tank yesterday but had zero influence other than reverse passing and chasing shadows.

Same here...!

Erol Bulut was apoplectic with rage at times last night. He's still gelling his team and I honestly believe these stories about him being disillysioned and/or ready to leave started on this Forum and simply gathered pace amongst those with an agenda and those who can't think for themselves...

to be fair its all over twitter even the turkish guys on there saying hes going and that hes fed up. im seeing a totally different spirit when they go on the pitch these past few weeks something is off you can sense it. granted fans booing and moaning all the time dont help but its there right to do it.

These “Turkish guys” know no more than we do. Remember when they were saying we signing certain players and Bulut himself said it was rubbish?

It’s like us knowing for some strange reason what Gareth Bale’s plans are all the time which we don’t.

That last bit isnt quite true now is it, there are some fans on here that know exactly what Gareth Bale and even Moore is thinking, as they are the ones that said they were both coming here, however the same fans forgot to mention that they new both had changed their minds (obviously) due to better deals offered else where.

They will also say they knew Rambo was coming but don’t mention that he was the only one that said publicly he will do whatever it takes to play for city again as he wanted to give back to the club where it all started.

Note; before the slating starts the above is said with a hint of tongue in cheek.

your free to say whatever comes to mind no insults or crossing the lines your fine

I'm not seeing a lack of motivation myself.

A lack of quality, confidence and confusion - yes.

Wintle, for example, emptied his tank yesterday but had zero influence other than reverse passing and chasing shadows.

bowler can never be bothered to hurry and get the ball back when he looses it collins etete all the same maybe its not motivation then and its just confidence its very lackluster

Bowler (and Grant) are 'ball ahead of them' type players. Fast balls into the channel. Dynamic.
Both of them, majority of touches, are back to goal near our halfway line. Slow, scripted patterns which allow the opposition to reset.

It's asking a goldfish to climb a tree.


Collins to me is public execution. Been poor for 3 months, maybe even full season. That is a clear weak spot that is unmanaged.

Bulut actually wanted up to 6 players and had his target all ready through December, but as January went on and on, he said he lost them as he did not know if he was getting backed.

He got rid of 17 players , including 3 loans and a lot of 19-21 yr olds and those wages certainly add up off the wage budget.

I'm not seeing a lack of motivation myself.

A lack of quality, confidence and confusion - yes.

Wintle, for example, emptied his tank yesterday but had zero influence other than reverse passing and chasing shadows.

bowler can never be bothered to hurry and get the ball back when he looses it collins etete all the same maybe its not motivation then and its just confidence its very lackluster

Bowler (and Grant) are 'ball ahead of them' type players. Fast balls into the channel. Dynamic.
Both of them, majority of touches, are back to goal near our halfway line. Slow, scripted patterns which allow the opposition to reset.

It's asking a goldfish to climb a tree.


Collins to me is public execution. Been poor for 3 months, maybe even full season. That is a clear weak spot that is unmanaged.

totally agree with this although i do like grants work ethic there isnt much more after that he offers

Bulut actually wanted up to 6 players and had his target all ready through December, but as January went on and on, he said he lost them as he did not know if he was getting backed.

He got rid of 17 players , including 3 loans and a lot of 19-21 yr olds and those wages certainly add up off the wage budget.

people dont like to admit that he got let down they all seem to think these players that we signed that nobody else wanted was his top tactics there aint no way they where

Bulut actually wanted up to 6 players and had his target all ready through December, but as January went on and on, he said he lost them as he did not know if he was getting backed.

He got rid of 17 players , including 3 loans and a lot of 19-21 yr olds and those wages certainly add up off the wage budget.

people dont like to admit that he got let down they all seem to think these players that we signed that nobody else wanted was his top tactics there aint no way they where

Kyle, as much as I am no longer believing in Bulut, Bulut was 100% let down by the CCFC Board and I do respect him for speaking out.

Bullutt hasn't earned the right for a new contract.. poor manager

I hate tan and do not trust dalman but Bale and Moore are not the boards fault, Bale wanted to go to the USA and Moore wanted to go to Ipswich rather than us as he thinks he will get a better chance in the prem with them.

Not many teams did better in transfer market I just feel we over achieved in the beginning of the season and now the manager is seeing how difficult it is in the championship. I am not sure if Bulut is the answer to be honest

I believe Bulut feels he is not going to get that contract extension.

He will continue as best he can but if results don't improve he will give up and resign. There is only so much frustration you can take.

Few weeks ago a lot were saying Tan out bulut in now talk about sacking him etc
If anything he will walk he’s not a yes man that we have all wanted

His passion is what we have been missing.

We have to back a manager for a few seasons not a first

I hate tan and do not trust dalman but Bale and Moore are not the boards fault, Bale wanted to go to the USA and Moore wanted to go to Ipswich rather than us as he thinks he will get a better chance in the prem with them.

Not many teams did better in transfer market I just feel we over achieved in the beginning of the season and now the manager is seeing how difficult it is in the championship. I am not sure if Bulut is the answer to be honest

That's working out well for Moore so far, isn't it...?

Don't ever doubt he indicated early his willingness/preference to come here and Bulut thought it was effectively a done deal until Bournemouth peddled him around for the best price...

That he chose late to go to Ipswich is for him to explain...

I have an opinion but it wouldn't read well for a player some still idolise 'cos he plays for Wales; having grown up in that well known Welsh town of Torquay...!

Now that ive calmed down after last night.i dont think its fair to say bulut dont care he obviously does.
He is still learning about the team etc.
They can do it the first half of the season they proved that.
He does tinker a lot and make subs at half time .Be nice for him to find his style and starting 11 and stick to it .in my opinion we lack goals because we play side to side and back to the center back and keeper a lot .No Ramsey is back hopefully we can get creative. Colwell has done a great job but can they play together. The new forward needs time as do all new signings.I honestly think if this group believes more and they play like they did for 10.mins in the second half we can do well.
All this for bulut to work out thats what hes payed for if he does it new contract if not he will leave the club .its a difficult job here for any manager at this club we all no that dont we

Few weeks ago a lot were saying Tan out bulut in now talk about sacking him etc
If anything he will walk he’s not a yes man that we have all wanted

His passion is what we have been missing.

We have to back a manager for a few seasons not a first

This.

He has shown what he can do.

It’s not going well at the moment but we over performed and can again.

Bulut was Dalman's choice and as much as I want him gone, he isn't going anywhere YET. The board want this to work out and are willing to offer him some more time to turn things around.

Do any of you really think he knew what he was undertaking when he signed for us.

I believe he thought, I am a Supa Liga manager, I have managed Galatasaray, and I will show this second-tier league what for. Must pundits rate the Championship higher than the Turkish Supaliga and i think he has been hit over the head with the intensity and class.

I believe he needs to see out the 15 games, learn and adapt over the summer. We are where we are now. Rambo coming back will get us 15~20 points and he can go into the summer with his rebuild plan

Rafe Benitez sum it up lovely in an interview after he blew away the championship with Newcastle.

Rafa Benitez believes that the quality in the Sky Bet Championship is much better than some football observers think.
But he has plenty of respect for the second tier of English football.
He said: “It’s quite good and better than people think.
“Everybody was saying it was long-ball or second-ball football. It’s not like this.
“You have a lot of teams that play on the floor and pass the ball.
“And tactically they have different systems. It is quite interesting for a manager.
“You have to adapt to different systems and situations during the game.”
“The mood is really good. We are playing well, scoring goals and not conceding too many and also we have to understand the style of the Championship.
“When you play at home you play on the floor, when you play away you have to defend long balls and set-pieces.
“I think the mood is good and we are growing and improving.”
United were written off by some critics after a bad start to the season when the club lost their first two matches.
Benitez said: “At the beginning it wasn’t nice because we thought we could do better.


https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/f ... 162812.amp

Bulut actually wanted up to 6 players and had his target all ready through December, but as January went on and on, he said he lost them as he did not know if he was getting backed.

He got rid of 17 players , including 3 loans and a lot of 19-21 yr olds and those wages certainly add up off the wage budget.

people dont like to admit that he got let down they all seem to think these players that we signed that nobody else wanted was his top tactics there aint no way they where

Kyle, as much as I am no longer believing in Bulut, Bulut was 100% let down by the CCFC Board and I do respect him for speaking out.

Before you start please at least try and read properly what I am posting here as your usual reaction when you don`t or won`t read things is to accuse people (including me) of being a mouthpiece for the club board or club owner. They make enough mistakes which they are rightly criticised for but where things are not their fault it should be made clear.

I agree that Bulut must have felt let down in the January transfer window but the reason he was let down was actually the decision of the EFL financial review system to restrict CCFC transfer spending below the level they thought they could have and which they were discussing with the manager. The club didn`t move the goalposts it was the EFL and the change was only conveyed to the club a few days before the end of the transfer window.

These late changes impacted on a number of EFL clubs, not just our club which is why spending in the transfer window across the whole of the EFL was only £15m.In addition, similar restrictions for Premier League clubs meant that spending there was way down (over £800m Jan 23 down to only £100m Jan 24) and as a consequence there was far less money available to Championship clubs from selling players in to the Premier League.

Bulut actually wanted up to 6 players and had his target all ready through December, but as January went on and on, he said he lost them as he did not know if he was getting backed.

He got rid of 17 players , including 3 loans and a lot of 19-21 yr olds and those wages certainly add up off the wage budget.

people dont like to admit that he got let down they all seem to think these players that we signed that nobody else wanted was his top tactics there aint no way they where

Kyle, as much as I am no longer believing in Bulut, Bulut was 100% let down by the CCFC Board and I do respect him for speaking out.

Before you start please at least try and read properly what I am posting here as your usual reaction when you don`t or won`t read things is to accuse people (including me) of being a mouthpiece for the club board or club owner. They make enough mistakes which they are rightly criticised for but where things are not their fault it should be made clear.

I agree that Bulut must have felt let down in the January transfer window but the reason he was let down was actually the decision of the EFL financial review system to restrict CCFC transfer spending below the level they thought they could have and which they were discussing with the manager. The club didn`t move the goalposts it was the EFL and the change was only conveyed to the club a few days before the end of the transfer window.

These late changes impacted on a number of EFL clubs, not just our club which is why spending in the transfer window across the whole of the EFL was only £15m.In addition, similar restrictions for Premier League clubs meant that spending there was way down (over £800m Jan 23 down to only £100m Jan 24) and as a consequence there was far less money available to Championship clubs from selling players in to the Premier League.

Late changes?

So where would we have stood if we signed say Keither Moore at the start of the window when we thought we had the money?