Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:25 pm
Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:35 pm
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Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:46 pm
Mr Ducie wrote:Most pertinently, referenced above, the set timeframes within the EFL Regulations state that matters are heard and reviewed within a matter of weeks of it being referred. This is aimed at providing a quick solution
So , I may be wrong but I can’t see any amendments being proposed three days before the end of the window.
Transfers in January are “last minute “ but normally they are done within 30 days or more.
You have to have medicals , accommodation, bank authority, insurance etc.
If deals are undone and cancelled (by the EFL) within 3 days of the deadline then surely the EFL would be liable for costs reasonably occurred and clubs compensated ?
Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:56 pm
Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:04 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Joff,
There are a few things that could of easily been done to ensure stay in FFP rules “if we were close to it which we can’t be”
A we have been getting rid of far more players than bringing in players, we reduced wages and we have not been buying players.
1) Why doesn’t one of Tans big companies sponsor the club therefore generating more income
2) Why are the clubs costs not broken down - People earning in excess of 500k per year for 2 days a week - That wage should be recharged to Tans other company for the other 3 days per week.
3) Are we sure owners travel costs are not included in there accounting? Reducing profit
4) Why leave business so late in the transfer window?? Everyone knows the later you leave it in the window the more an average player will cost you. Should of had business planned early in the window.
5) I now know Dalman has lent our club a total of £30mill at £2.7mill interest a year and another person I believe to be Tans Son has lent us money at high interest.
These could be deferred for a while.
6) Am I right Owners can gift their Club £10mill to buy players?
Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:06 pm
Mr Ducie wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Joff,
There are a few things that could of easily been done to ensure stay in FFP rules “if we were close to it which we can’t be”
A we have been getting rid of far more players than bringing in players, we reduced wages and we have not been buying players.
1) Why doesn’t one of Tans big companies sponsor the club therefore generating more income
2) Why are the clubs costs not broken down - People earning in excess of 500k per year for 2 days a week - That wage should be recharged to Tans other company for the other 3 days per week.
3) Are we sure owners travel costs are not included in there accounting? Reducing profit
4) Why leave business so late in the transfer window?? Everyone knows the later you leave it in the window the more an average player will cost you. Should of had business planned early in the window.
5) I now know Dalman has lent our club a total of £30mill at £2.7mill interest a year and another person I believe to be Tans Son has lent us money at high interest.
These could be deferred for a while.
6) Am I right Owners can gift their Club £10mill to buy players?
Any sponsorship revenue received by a club, having had the underlying deals investigated and given a clear bill of health, will be considered an exemption from FFP. But getting to the bottom of what does or doesn't amount to a legitimate sponsorship deal has proven extremely tricky in practice.
All the terms of FFP are in this contract perhaps another poster could use this as a reference and list the relevant terms
https://www.efl.com/documents/efl-handbook.pdf
Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:15 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Mr Ducie wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Joff,
There are a few things that could of easily been done to ensure stay in FFP rules “if we were close to it which we can’t be”
A we have been getting rid of far more players than bringing in players, we reduced wages and we have not been buying players.
1) Why doesn’t one of Tans big companies sponsor the club therefore generating more income
2) Why are the clubs costs not broken down - People earning in excess of 500k per year for 2 days a week - That wage should be recharged to Tans other company for the other 3 days per week.
3) Are we sure owners travel costs are not included in there accounting? Reducing profit
4) Why leave business so late in the transfer window?? Everyone knows the later you leave it in the window the more an average player will cost you. Should of had business planned early in the window.
5) I now know Dalman has lent our club a total of £30mill at £2.7mill interest a year and another person I believe to be Tans Son has lent us money at high interest.
These could be deferred for a while.
6) Am I right Owners can gift their Club £10mill to buy players?
Any sponsorship revenue received by a club, having had the underlying deals investigated and given a clear bill of health, will be considered an exemption from FFP. But getting to the bottom of what does or doesn't amount to a legitimate sponsorship deal has proven extremely tricky in practice.
All the terms of FFP are in this contract perhaps another poster could use this as a reference and list the relevant terms
https://www.efl.com/documents/efl-handbook.pdf
Thanks Joff
Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:20 pm
Mr Ducie wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mr Ducie wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Joff,
There are a few things that could of easily been done to ensure stay in FFP rules “if we were close to it which we can’t be”
A we have been getting rid of far more players than bringing in players, we reduced wages and we have not been buying players.
1) Why doesn’t one of Tans big companies sponsor the club therefore generating more income
2) Why are the clubs costs not broken down - People earning in excess of 500k per year for 2 days a week - That wage should be recharged to Tans other company for the other 3 days per week.
3) Are we sure owners travel costs are not included in there accounting? Reducing profit
4) Why leave business so late in the transfer window?? Everyone knows the later you leave it in the window the more an average player will cost you. Should of had business planned early in the window.
5) I now know Dalman has lent our club a total of £30mill at £2.7mill interest a year and another person I believe to be Tans Son has lent us money at high interest.
These could be deferred for a while.
6) Am I right Owners can gift their Club £10mill to buy players?
Any sponsorship revenue received by a club, having had the underlying deals investigated and given a clear bill of health, will be considered an exemption from FFP. But getting to the bottom of what does or doesn't amount to a legitimate sponsorship deal has proven extremely tricky in practice.
All the terms of FFP are in this contract perhaps another poster could use this as a reference and list the relevant terms
https://www.efl.com/documents/efl-handbook.pdf
Thanks Joff
I may be wrong here but the club probably had a change of heart, which makes financial sense. As we were not in the position to make the playoffs, additional more costly signings would make more of a difference next season. Something I agree with.
Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:22 pm
Mr Ducie wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mr Ducie wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Joff,
There are a few things that could of easily been done to ensure stay in FFP rules “if we were close to it which we can’t be”
A we have been getting rid of far more players than bringing in players, we reduced wages and we have not been buying players.
1) Why doesn’t one of Tans big companies sponsor the club therefore generating more income
2) Why are the clubs costs not broken down - People earning in excess of 500k per year for 2 days a week - That wage should be recharged to Tans other company for the other 3 days per week.
3) Are we sure owners travel costs are not included in there accounting? Reducing profit
4) Why leave business so late in the transfer window?? Everyone knows the later you leave it in the window the more an average player will cost you. Should of had business planned early in the window.
5) I now know Dalman has lent our club a total of £30mill at £2.7mill interest a year and another person I believe to be Tans Son has lent us money at high interest.
These could be deferred for a while.
6) Am I right Owners can gift their Club £10mill to buy players?
Any sponsorship revenue received by a club, having had the underlying deals investigated and given a clear bill of health, will be considered an exemption from FFP. But getting to the bottom of what does or doesn't amount to a legitimate sponsorship deal has proven extremely tricky in practice.
All the terms of FFP are in this contract perhaps another poster could use this as a reference and list the relevant terms
https://www.efl.com/documents/efl-handbook.pdf
Thanks Joff
I may be wrong here but the club probably had a change of heart, which makes financial sense. As we were not in the position to make the playoffs, additional more costly signings would make more of a difference next season. Something I agree with.
Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:26 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Mr Ducie wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mr Ducie wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Joff,
There are a few things that could of easily been done to ensure stay in FFP rules “if we were close to it which we can’t be”
A we have been getting rid of far more players than bringing in players, we reduced wages and we have not been buying players.
1) Why doesn’t one of Tans big companies sponsor the club therefore generating more income
2) Why are the clubs costs not broken down - People earning in excess of 500k per year for 2 days a week - That wage should be recharged to Tans other company for the other 3 days per week.
3) Are we sure owners travel costs are not included in there accounting? Reducing profit
4) Why leave business so late in the transfer window?? Everyone knows the later you leave it in the window the more an average player will cost you. Should of had business planned early in the window.
5) I now know Dalman has lent our club a total of £30mill at £2.7mill interest a year and another person I believe to be Tans Son has lent us money at high interest.
These could be deferred for a while.
6) Am I right Owners can gift their Club £10mill to buy players?
Any sponsorship revenue received by a club, having had the underlying deals investigated and given a clear bill of health, will be considered an exemption from FFP. But getting to the bottom of what does or doesn't amount to a legitimate sponsorship deal has proven extremely tricky in practice.
All the terms of FFP are in this contract perhaps another poster could use this as a reference and list the relevant terms
https://www.efl.com/documents/efl-handbook.pdf
Thanks Joff
I may be wrong here but the club probably had a change of heart, which makes financial sense. As we were not in the position to make the playoffs, additional more costly signings would make more of a difference next season. Something I agree with.
If that is the case of which I favour then why not say that instead of using this CFRU excuse?
Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:00 pm
kyle08 wrote:wez, if your seeing this could you put up the Cardiff City accounts for the last two years ?
the last post was locked so i thought id ask in here
Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:04 pm