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pembroke allan wrote:Paul looking at teams about to be relegated and those going for promotion next season looks like the best opportunity for a big push for top 2 places for any club with ambition to get to premier league.
Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:57 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Paul looking at teams about to be relegated and those going for promotion next season looks like the best opportunity for a big push for top 2 places for any club with ambition to get to premier league.
Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:36 pm
GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Paul looking at teams about to be relegated and those going for promotion next season looks like the best opportunity for a big push for top 2 places for any club with ambition to get to premier league.
Completely agree with that Al and have thought it for some time. I know things change over the summer but the way it's looking, it would be a good time for any team to invest and have a proper go.
Yet still the usual radio silence from Tan and the board and we don't even know if EB will be around.
So what's the plan, Tan?
Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:10 pm
pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Paul looking at teams about to be relegated and those going for promotion next season looks like the best opportunity for a big push for top 2 places for any club with ambition to get to premier league.
Completely agree with that Al and have thought it for some time. I know things change over the summer but the way it's looking, it would be a good time for any team to invest and have a proper go.
Yet still the usual radio silence from Tan and the board and we don't even know if EB will be around.
So what's the plan, Tan?
There is something not sitting right with me? Buluts agent must have overtures from prospective clubs as not signed or been offered new contract...... so why the silence from him he could simply say not staying same as club could say same? All well him saying no idea what's happening about contract when it's in his power to simply say I'm going as not offered me a deal afterall hes only got 5 games left what is he waiting for?? "Christmas"
Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:11 pm
GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Paul looking at teams about to be relegated and those going for promotion next season looks like the best opportunity for a big push for top 2 places for any club with ambition to get to premier league.
Completely agree with that Al and have thought it for some time. I know things change over the summer but the way it's looking, it would be a good time for any team to invest and have a proper go.
Yet still the usual radio silence from Tan and the board and we don't even know if EB will be around.
So what's the plan, Tan?
There is something not sitting right with me? Buluts agent must have overtures from prospective clubs as not signed or been offered new contract...... so why the silence from him he could simply say not staying same as club could say same? All well him saying no idea what's happening about contract when it's in his power to simply say I'm going as not offered me a deal afterall hes only got 5 games left what is he waiting for?? "Christmas"
Me too mate, 3 games left and still nada. I think FFP could be a significant factor again budgetwise so if VT is going to have a go, he's going to have to finance it which pushes his liability even further. But whatever, you'd think we would know something by now, especially on the EB side of things.
Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:44 pm
GrangeEndStar wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Paul looking at teams about to be relegated and those going for promotion next season looks like the best opportunity for a big push for top 2 places for any club with ambition to get to premier league.
Completely agree with that Al and have thought it for some time. I know things change over the summer but the way it's looking, it would be a good time for any team to invest and have a proper go.
Yet still the usual radio silence from Tan and the board and we don't even know if EB will be around.
So what's the plan, Tan?
There is something not sitting right with me? Buluts agent must have overtures from prospective clubs as not signed or been offered new contract...... so why the silence from him he could simply say not staying same as club could say same? All well him saying no idea what's happening about contract when it's in his power to simply say I'm going as not offered me a deal afterall hes only got 5 games left what is he waiting for?? "Christmas"
Me too mate, 3 games left and still nada. I think FFP could be a significant factor again budgetwise so if VT is going to have a go, he's going to have to finance it which pushes his liability even further. But whatever, you'd think we would know something by now, especially on the EB side of things.
Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:29 pm
Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:33 pm
cardiffboy1995 wrote:Southampton, Leeds, Leicester.
Their squads are levels above every other team in the division, including Ipswich.
Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:07 pm
pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Paul looking at teams about to be relegated and those going for promotion next season looks like the best opportunity for a big push for top 2 places for any club with ambition to get to premier league.
Completely agree with that Al and have thought it for some time. I know things change over the summer but the way it's looking, it would be a good time for any team to invest and have a proper go.
Yet still the usual radio silence from Tan and the board and we don't even know if EB will be around.
So what's the plan, Tan?
There is something not sitting right with me? Buluts agent must have overtures from prospective clubs as not signed or been offered new contract...... so why the silence from him he could simply say not staying same as club could say same? All well him saying no idea what's happening about contract when it's in his power to simply say I'm going as not offered me a deal afterall hes only got 5 games left what is he waiting for?? "Christmas"
Me too mate, 3 games left and still nada. I think FFP could be a significant factor again budgetwise so if VT is going to have a go, he's going to have to finance it which pushes his liability even further. But whatever, you'd think we would know something by now, especially on the EB side of things.
We will be in better position ffp wise this coming season but we won't be only club keeping close eye on spending... bulut says one thing then contrdicts it later been doing it all season so dont believe he knows nothing even allowing for tans idiosyncrasies when it comes go running club... says he's spoken to dalman about contract but not Tan?? And is looking at players he whants why ? Strange very strange
Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:26 pm
montyblue wrote:Lets just hope a takeover is imminent.
Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:41 pm
GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Paul looking at teams about to be relegated and those going for promotion next season looks like the best opportunity for a big push for top 2 places for any club with ambition to get to premier league.
Completely agree with that Al and have thought it for some time. I know things change over the summer but the way it's looking, it would be a good time for any team to invest and have a proper go.
Yet still the usual radio silence from Tan and the board and we don't even know if EB will be around.
So what's the plan, Tan?
There is something not sitting right with me? Buluts agent must have overtures from prospective clubs as not signed or been offered new contract...... so why the silence from him he could simply say not staying same as club could say same? All well him saying no idea what's happening about contract when it's in his power to simply say I'm going as not offered me a deal afterall hes only got 5 games left what is he waiting for?? "Christmas"
Me too mate, 3 games left and still nada. I think FFP could be a significant factor again budgetwise so if VT is going to have a go, he's going to have to finance it which pushes his liability even further. But whatever, you'd think we would know something by now, especially on the EB side of things.
We will be in better position ffp wise this coming season but we won't be only club keeping close eye on spending... bulut says one thing then contrdicts it later been doing it all season so dont believe he knows nothing even allowing for tans idiosyncrasies when it comes go running club... says he's spoken to dalman about contract but not Tan?? And is looking at players he whants why ? Strange very strange
Not so sure about FFP wise Al. It's a rolling 3 year period moving average and the last two puts us at £38M. (27+11). The max average allowed is 13x3 so £39M, I maybe wrong but that's how I read it at present., which doesn't leave much wriggle room. We will see I guess.
Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:30 pm
Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:53 pm
pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Paul looking at teams about to be relegated and those going for promotion next season looks like the best opportunity for a big push for top 2 places for any club with ambition to get to premier league.
Completely agree with that Al and have thought it for some time. I know things change over the summer but the way it's looking, it would be a good time for any team to invest and have a proper go.
Yet still the usual radio silence from Tan and the board and we don't even know if EB will be around.
So what's the plan, Tan?
There is something not sitting right with me? Buluts agent must have overtures from prospective clubs as not signed or been offered new contract...... so why the silence from him he could simply say not staying same as club could say same? All well him saying no idea what's happening about contract when it's in his power to simply say I'm going as not offered me a deal afterall hes only got 5 games left what is he waiting for?? "Christmas"
Me too mate, 3 games left and still nada. I think FFP could be a significant factor again budgetwise so if VT is going to have a go, he's going to have to finance it which pushes his liability even further. But whatever, you'd think we would know something by now, especially on the EB side of things.
We will be in better position ffp wise this coming season but we won't be only club keeping close eye on spending... bulut says one thing then contrdicts it later been doing it all season so dont believe he knows nothing even allowing for tans idiosyncrasies when it comes go running club... says he's spoken to dalman about contract but not Tan?? And is looking at players he whants why ? Strange very strange
Not so sure about FFP wise Al. It's a rolling 3 year period moving average and the last two puts us at £38M. (27+11). The max average allowed is 13x3 so £39M, I maybe wrong but that's how I read it at present., which doesn't leave much wriggle room. We will see I guess.
See your point but a lot more involved than simple losses of x amount.... took s look at ffp for championship and was total gobblygook without giving a precise amount.... but like say we will see
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:04 pm
GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Paul looking at teams about to be relegated and those going for promotion next season looks like the best opportunity for a big push for top 2 places for any club with ambition to get to premier league.
Completely agree with that Al and have thought it for some time. I know things change over the summer but the way it's looking, it would be a good time for any team to invest and have a proper go.
Yet still the usual radio silence from Tan and the board and we don't even know if EB will be around.
So what's the plan, Tan?
There is something not sitting right with me? Buluts agent must have overtures from prospective clubs as not signed or been offered new contract...... so why the silence from him he could simply say not staying same as club could say same? All well him saying no idea what's happening about contract when it's in his power to simply say I'm going as not offered me a deal afterall hes only got 5 games left what is he waiting for?? "Christmas"
Me too mate, 3 games left and still nada. I think FFP could be a significant factor again budgetwise so if VT is going to have a go, he's going to have to finance it which pushes his liability even further. But whatever, you'd think we would know something by now, especially on the EB side of things.
We will be in better position ffp wise this coming season but we won't be only club keeping close eye on spending... bulut says one thing then contrdicts it later been doing it all season so dont believe he knows nothing even allowing for tans idiosyncrasies when it comes go running club... says he's spoken to dalman about contract but not Tan?? And is looking at players he whants why ? Strange very strange
Not so sure about FFP wise Al. It's a rolling 3 year period moving average and the last two puts us at £38M. (27+11). The max average allowed is 13x3 so £39M, I maybe wrong but that's how I read it at present., which doesn't leave much wriggle room. We will see I guess.
See your point but a lot more involved than simple losses of x amount.... took s look at ffp for championship and was total gobblygook without giving a precise amount.... but like say we will see
I reviewed it with someone who knows the detail and it seems that the figures I've quoted are ultimately where we are. But wherever we are, I just hope all is revealed soon about what Tans plan is, the silence is deafening.
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:29 pm
pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Paul looking at teams about to be relegated and those going for promotion next season looks like the best opportunity for a big push for top 2 places for any club with ambition to get to premier league.
Completely agree with that Al and have thought it for some time. I know things change over the summer but the way it's looking, it would be a good time for any team to invest and have a proper go.
Yet still the usual radio silence from Tan and the board and we don't even know if EB will be around.
So what's the plan, Tan?
There is something not sitting right with me? Buluts agent must have overtures from prospective clubs as not signed or been offered new contract...... so why the silence from him he could simply say not staying same as club could say same? All well him saying no idea what's happening about contract when it's in his power to simply say I'm going as not offered me a deal afterall hes only got 5 games left what is he waiting for?? "Christmas"
Me too mate, 3 games left and still nada. I think FFP could be a significant factor again budgetwise so if VT is going to have a go, he's going to have to finance it which pushes his liability even further. But whatever, you'd think we would know something by now, especially on the EB side of things.
We will be in better position ffp wise this coming season but we won't be only club keeping close eye on spending... bulut says one thing then contrdicts it later been doing it all season so dont believe he knows nothing even allowing for tans idiosyncrasies when it comes go running club... says he's spoken to dalman about contract but not Tan?? And is looking at players he whants why ? Strange very strange
Not so sure about FFP wise Al. It's a rolling 3 year period moving average and the last two puts us at £38M. (27+11). The max average allowed is 13x3 so £39M, I maybe wrong but that's how I read it at present., which doesn't leave much wriggle room. We will see I guess.
See your point but a lot more involved than simple losses of x amount.... took s look at ffp for championship and was total gobblygook without giving a precise amount.... but like say we will see
I reviewed it with someone who knows the detail and it seems that the figures I've quoted are ultimately where we are. But wherever we are, I just hope all is revealed soon about what Tans plan is, the silence is deafening.
Yes hope we hear about clubs plans but be ghere as usual.... as for ffp if its over 3 years at 39m in total can see only 1m below limit available so whatever we save on sending loans back and players we get rid off thats our budget minus any other running losses incurred? ..... but like said other things need to be taken into consideration to arrive at ffp limit well hope so or its poundland again....
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Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:31 am
pembroke allan wrote:by GrangeEndStar »
⁷It seems like that's where we are with everything taken into consideration and the secondary specialist audit was what delayed us in Jan that proves it, the dark arts of getting around it are being closed down. But if Tan puts more money in to balance it, then no problem it would appear, the question is, will he, if EB is here or not. Everything will be geared as to the boards (Tans) plan for next season and it all works back from there, including if EB is deemed the right person to deliver whatever the Tan Plan is.
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:52 am
GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:by GrangeEndStar »
⁷It seems like that's where we are with everything taken into consideration and the secondary specialist audit was what delayed us in Jan that proves it, the dark arts of getting around it are being closed down. But if Tan puts more money in to balance it, then no problem it would appear, the question is, will he, if EB is here or not. Everything will be geared as to the boards (Tans) plan for next season and it all works back from there, including if EB is deemed the right person to deliver whatever the Tan Plan is.
Maybe it won't be upto tan come start of new season? :lol
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:52 am
pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:by GrangeEndStar »
⁷It seems like that's where we are with everything taken into consideration and the secondary specialist audit was what delayed us in Jan that proves it, the dark arts of getting around it are being closed down. But if Tan puts more money in to balance it, then no problem it would appear, the question is, will he, if EB is here or not. Everything will be geared as to the boards (Tans) plan for next season and it all works back from there, including if EB is deemed the right person to deliver whatever the Tan Plan is.
Maybe it won't be upto tan come start of new season? :lol
He won't sell anytime soon Al, his liabilities here now represent a significant part of his wealth and he wants it back. But Tans best option of trying to get some of his money back is to admit to himself that he needs help and get someone proven in to run the entire football show and let them get on with it. His stubbornness has been his strength but in City's case, it's his weakness. And that could happen overnight if he wanted to
Meanwhile, we await the latest Tan Plan with bated breath.
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:04 am
GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:pembroke allan wrote:by GrangeEndStar »
⁷It seems like that's where we are with everything taken into consideration and the secondary specialist audit was what delayed us in Jan that proves it, the dark arts of getting around it are being closed down. But if Tan puts more money in to balance it, then no problem it would appear, the question is, will he, if EB is here or not. Everything will be geared as to the boards (Tans) plan for next season and it all works back from there, including if EB is deemed the right person to deliver whatever the Tan Plan is.
Maybe it won't be upto tan come start of new season? :lol
He won't sell anytime soon Al, his liabilities here now represent a significant part of his wealth and he wants it back. But Tans best option of trying to get some of his money back is to admit to himself that he needs help and get someone proven in to run the entire football show and let them get on with it. His stubbornness has been his strength but in City's case, it's his weakness. And that could happen overnight if he wanted to
Meanwhile, we await the latest Tan Plan with bated breath.
Can't wait yo see what anyones plan for club is? What's for sure is he won't get his money back we'll not the reported £200m... technically I suppose he's already lost it as it is mostly shares now so already gone from his account ... lots owners lost such money by selling club at price below their investment ..... cut his losses seems like better option considering he is supposed to be putting in millions a season for no return.
Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:50 pm