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SamCCFC1927 wrote:Doesn’t shock me annis club got no plan or nothing I can’t wait for dalman to come out and promise the world,get them all out it’s a circus we just go around and around year after year
Mon May 06, 2024 9:12 am
Forever Blue wrote:SamCCFC1927 wrote:Doesn’t shock me annis club got no plan or nothing I can’t wait for dalman to come out and promise the world,get them all out it’s a circus we just go around and around year after year
Sam,
It’s getting beyond, We’ve been called a Circus run by Clowns.
But this just shows their so called new plans for the future every year are total bullshit.
Yes your right Dalman will be coming out with we have our New plans in place and the club are going forward and we want everyone behinds etc , his two Spokesmen Morgan and Williams will come on websites , Twitter everything saying all the bullshit for them.
Why don’t they question properly Dalman and say please the fans have had enough, but know they will print the bullshit.
Mon May 06, 2024 9:48 am
Forever Blue wrote:SamCCFC1927 wrote:Doesn’t shock me annis club got no plan or nothing I can’t wait for dalman to come out and promise the world,get them all out it’s a circus we just go around and around year after year
Sam,
It’s getting beyond, We’ve been called a Circus run by Clowns.
But this just shows their so called new plans for the future every year are total bullshit.
Yes your right Dalman will be coming out with we have our New plans in place and the club are going forward and we want everyone behinds etc , his two Spokesmen Morgan and Williams will come on websites , Twitter everything saying all the bullshit for them.
Why don’t they question properly Dalman and say please the fans have had enough, but know they will print the bullshit.
Mon May 06, 2024 10:09 am
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davids wrote:Does anyone on here think that Bulut is worth a three year contract because it seems that is what he wants.
I would say goodbye to him today but I can just about at a struggle understand the logic in giving him another year but absolutely no way should he be given more than a year.
Have we not learned the lesson of McCarthy and others?
No fan of Tan but if he's unwilling to offer Bulut more than one year I'd be 100% in agreement with him.
Mon May 06, 2024 10:52 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:davids wrote:Does anyone on here think that Bulut is worth a three year contract because it seems that is what he wants.
I would say goodbye to him today but I can just about at a struggle understand the logic in giving him another year but absolutely no way should he be given more than a year.
Have we not learned the lesson of McCarthy and others?
No fan of Tan but if he's unwilling to offer Bulut more than one year I'd be 100% in agreement with him.
I think it’s two years he wants so he can move his family over, that’s not unreasonable at all in my opinion.
From a club point of view, does the length of contract really matter with the football manager? I’m not sure.
Club should just give him that contract.
My concern is he has asked for money for new players and a bigger recruitment department but they don’t want to spend the money.
If that’s the case, we can look forward to another manager like Hudson and probably relegation next season.
Mon May 06, 2024 11:00 am
davids wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:davids wrote:Does anyone on here think that Bulut is worth a three year contract because it seems that is what he wants.
I would say goodbye to him today but I can just about at a struggle understand the logic in giving him another year but absolutely no way should he be given more than a year.
Have we not learned the lesson of McCarthy and others?
No fan of Tan but if he's unwilling to offer Bulut more than one year I'd be 100% in agreement with him.
I think it’s two years he wants so he can move his family over, that’s not unreasonable at all in my opinion.
From a club point of view, does the length of contract really matter with the football manager? I’m not sure.
Club should just give him that contract.
My concern is he has asked for money for new players and a bigger recruitment department but they don’t want to spend the money.
If that’s the case, we can look forward to another manager like Hudson and probably relegation next season.
I think the length of contract does matter to the club because of course it's not just the manager we're talking about but the whole coaching team who will be getting extensions to their contracts.
Bulut has already been talking about extending the coaching set up (an attacking coach would help) and if things go tits up by Christmas you are then looking at multiple pay offs to get rid of the existing manager and his coaching staff as well as the cost of a replacement manager who no doubt will want his own entourage.
Mon May 06, 2024 11:18 am
Mon May 06, 2024 12:59 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:davids wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:davids wrote:Does anyone on here think that Bulut is worth a three year contract because it seems that is what he wants.
I would say goodbye to him today but I can just about at a struggle understand the logic in giving him another year
but absolutely no way should he be given more than a year.
Have we not learned the lesson of McCarthy and others?
No fan of Tan but if he's unwilling to offer Bulut more than one year I'd be 100% in agreement with him.
I think it’s two years he wants so he can move his family over, that’s not unreasonable at all in my opinion.
From a club point of view, does the length of contract really matter with the football manager? I’m not sure.
Club should just give him that contract.
My concern is he has asked for money for new players and a bigger recruitment department but they don’t want to spend the money.
If that’s the case, we can look forward to another manager like Hudson and probably relegation next season.
I think the length of contract does matter to the club because of course it's not just the manager we're talking about but the whole coaching team who will be getting extensions to their contracts.
Bulut has already been talking about extending the coaching set up (an attacking coach would help) and if things go tits up by Christmas you are then looking at multiple pay offs to get rid of the existing manager and his coaching staff as well as the cost of a replacement manager who no doubt will want his own entourage.
Managers at other clubs get given 2/3 year contracts all the time, I don’t see why our club should be any different?
A lot of the time there is a clause where if a manager and his coaches don’t achieve a certain thing then they can be sacked on reduced compensation. That would be the case here.
People just need to realise the real reason Tan isn’t sure. It has nothing to do with Bulut.
It’s because he doesn’t want to spend money.
Mon May 06, 2024 1:10 pm
davids wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:davids wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:davids wrote:Does anyone on here think that Bulut is worth a three year contract because it seems that is what he wants.
I would say goodbye to him today but I can just about at a struggle understand the logic in giving him another year
but absolutely no way should he be given more than a year.
Have we not learned the lesson of McCarthy and others?
No fan of Tan but if he's unwilling to offer Bulut more than one year I'd be 100% in agreement with him.
I think it’s two years he wants so he can move his family over, that’s not unreasonable at all in my opinion.
From a club point of view, does the length of contract really matter with the football manager? I’m not sure.
Club should just give him that contract.
My concern is he has asked for money for new players and a bigger recruitment department but they don’t want to spend the money.
If that’s the case, we can look forward to another manager like Hudson and probably relegation next season.
I think the length of contract does matter to the club because of course it's not just the manager we're talking about but the whole coaching team who will be getting extensions to their contracts.
Bulut has already been talking about extending the coaching set up (an attacking coach would help) and if things go tits up by Christmas you are then looking at multiple pay offs to get rid of the existing manager and his coaching staff as well as the cost of a replacement manager who no doubt will want his own entourage.
Managers at other clubs get given 2/3 year contracts all the time, I don’t see why our club should be any different?
A lot of the time there is a clause where if a manager and his coaches don’t achieve a certain thing then they can be sacked on reduced compensation. That would be the case here.
People just need to realise the real reason Tan isn’t sure. It has nothing to do with Bulut.
It’s because he doesn’t want to spend money.
I've not heard of such a clause before but you may well know far more about managers and coaching staff contracts than I do.
So where would you draw the line for Bulut and his coaches to get reduced compensation next season? If he doesn't make top 6? If he doesn't make top 10? Only if we're in the bottom 3?
Would any manager accept such a clause in their contract?
I hear what you say about Tan not wanting to spend money and I agree with you but if there's no money available why would Bulut want to stay? Surely it will be no different to this season? Bulut will only be able to sign players who are incapable of playing the exciting , skilful entertaining football he's told us he wants to play but of which we have seen absolutely no evidence this entire season.
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Tue May 07, 2024 7:00 pm
TopCat CCFC wrote:For me if Tan and the board want to keep Erol - offer him another 1 year contract and review in Jan or wait end of season ..
To me it also has a lot to do with how much money is there to buy/improve the squad for next season .
Tue May 07, 2024 7:57 pm
litoblues wrote:Done well to give bullut a 1 year contract..shite manager..what's sad is ,there doesn't seem to be anyone in place to take over from him..by the time he is replaced the transfer window will be gone