Bulut: are you happy?

It'll come as no surprise that I'm firmly in the yes camp. I've been saying for months we need to back him and let him build his own team.

Where does everyone else stand? Be interesting to see what the overall consensus is.

Not for me.

Don't think he can play in any other way than the way he played last season which saw some of the worst and most depressing football I've seen City play for many years.

Won't trust young players.

I hope he proves me wrong but I reckon he'll be gone by Christmas and we'll be back to square one yet again.

Will happily eat humble pie if he gets us anywhere near the play offs this season.

Not for me.

Don't think he can play in any other way than the way he played last season which saw some of the worst and most depressing football I've seen City play for many years.

Won't trust young players.

I hope he proves me wrong but I reckon he'll be gone by Christmas and we'll be back to square one yet again.

Will happily eat humble pie if he gets us anywhere near the play offs this season.

I'm happy and believe he will get a striker or two in who can do the job that allows him to be a little more adventurous

He did a good job overall ladt season under tough circumstances and with appropriate backing could take us even further ul the table

I understand why some, including you, might have reservations though

If better football

This the way I see it.

We would all like to see better quality football. But that can’t come at the cost of results. We did outperform expectations in terms of league finish last season.

When you are in the football management game, results are what keep you in a job. You can play the best looking football in the world, but if you don’t get results then you won’t keep your job.

Would also say if he had the best quality football in the league and good results over a season (we had the results last season), then he would be managing in the PL - not the Championship.

I’m pleased he’s staying in answer to the question. Better performances would be nice, I think that will happen with better players.

But most of all, the target must be to compete for the top six. If he doesn’t, then people can quite rightly criticise him.

I believe we will see a proper Bulut side that is not hamstrung by ffp and with a team of coaches of his choosing I'm confident of a playoff place.

Happy with the manager - Now time to see which players we get in ...

This the way I see it.

We would all like to see better quality football. But that can’t come at the cost of results. We did outperform expectations in terms of league finish last season.

When you are in the football management game, results are what keep you in a job. You can play the best looking football in the world, but if you don’t get results then you won’t keep your job.

Would also say if he had the best quality football in the league and good results over a season (we had the results last season), then he would be managing in the PL - not the Championship.

I’m pleased he’s staying in answer to the question. Better performances would be nice, I think that will happen with better players.

But most of all, the target must be to compete for the top six. If he doesn’t, then people can quite rightly criticise him.

A good point regarding results. By common consent Plymouth played better football than us but were very nearly relegated and as a result their manager was fired.

If Bulut was getting his team to play conservatively in his first season in charge that's OK but from here on in he has to adopt a more expansive approach, as neither the fans nor the club's hierarchy will support him if there is no improvement next season.

Give him what he wants to do the job and I think he could be good for us

Give him what he wants to do the job and I think he could be good for us

Needs to be backed, simple as that.

He deserved his contract. It was mission accomplished last season so I'm happy we have some stability and can plan ahead for the short and medium term.

I do feel we'll always be a nearly team under him though. He'll never be able to motivate the players enough to win the games that really count (i.e. play offs - and thats regardless of whether hes backed or not). I'd love to be wrong!

Most on here will know I didn't want Bulut to have a new contract but I will give him and the team my full support as I always do.

If the style of football doesn't change we will be in a relegation fight next season because every team knows how we are going to play with no plan B.

We finished 12th last season due to the good start we had before Bulut's one and only game plan was sussed out by one and all.

I hope I'm wrong and will gladly eat a big slice of humble pie.

C'mon Bulut, prove me wrong

Most on here will know I didn't want Bulut to have a new contract but I will give him and the team my full support as I always do.

If the style of football doesn't change we will be in a relegation fight next season because every team knows how we are going to play with no plan B.

We finished 12th last season due to the good start we had before Bulut's one and only game plan was sussed out by one and all.

I hope I'm wrong and will gladly eat a big slice of humble pie.

C'mon Bulut, prove me wrong

Did we not beat couple of top teams late in season? So if teams did suss our plan "A" no one told them? .... but hopefully get couple of decent players in and Rambo o'dowda stay fit longer will see more consistently better performances snd different tactics.

I also want the football to change, but as Ned said, it comes down to results at the end of the day.

If we were to make it to the playoffs, playing a non attractive style of football, then that ultimately ticks the boxes of performance from the boards perspective.

This is the season that shows us who Bulut is as a manager in my eyes - we will no longer be able to say that it is

A) His first season in English football

B) A league one squad of players which can't play his style of play (IF Tan backs Bulut as promised)

C) Too risky to play our youngsters. They now all have first team experience and did very well, all deserve their chances this season.

Most on here will know I didn't want Bulut to have a new contract but I will give him and the team my full support as I always do.

If the style of football doesn't change we will be in a relegation fight next season because every team knows how we are going to play with no plan B.

We finished 12th last season due to the good start we had before Bulut's one and only game plan was sussed out by one and all.

I hope I'm wrong and will gladly eat a big slice of humble pie.

C'mon Bulut, prove me wrong

Did we not beat couple of top teams late in season? So if teams did suss our plan "A" no one told them? .... but hopefully get couple of decent players in and Rambo o'dowda stay fit longer will see more consistently better performances snd different tactics.

Yes you are correct, we did but we also threw the towel in before the ball was kicked at home to Leicester and Leeds, then away to Norwich, Southampton and the JB's so inconsistency is also an issue.

One thing is certain, we need new players so it'll be an interesting summer to see who comes in permanently and on loan. And I'll be excited as ever for the first game.

Most on here will know I didn't want Bulut to have a new contract but I will give him and the team my full support as I always do.

If the style of football doesn't change we will be in a relegation fight next season because every team knows how we are going to play with no plan B.

We finished 12th last season due to the good start we had before Bulut's one and only game plan was sussed out by one and all.

I hope I'm wrong and will gladly eat a big slice of humble pie.

C'mon Bulut, prove me wrong

Did we not beat couple of top teams late in season? So if teams did suss our plan "A" no one told them? .... but hopefully get couple of decent players in and Rambo o'dowda stay fit longer will see more consistently better performances snd different tactics.

Yes you are correct, we did but we also threw the towel in before the ball was kicked at home to Leicester and Leeds, then away to Norwich, Southampton and the JB's so inconsistency is also an issue.

One thing is certain, we need new players so it'll be an interesting summer to see who comes in permanently and on loan. And I'll be excited as ever for the first game.

Let's hope he now knows jow championship works and what type of players required to get out of this league? Yes looking forward to season but not hbe fact only 6 start at 3pm at home on Saturdays...

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Most on here will know I didn't want Bulut to have a new contract but I will give him and the team my full support as I always do.

If the style of football doesn't change we will be in a relegation fight next season because every team knows how we are going to play with no plan B.

We finished 12th last season due to the good start we had before Bulut's one and only game plan was sussed out by one and all.

I hope I'm wrong and will gladly eat a big slice of humble pie.

C'mon Bulut, prove me wrong

Did we not beat couple of top teams late in season? So if teams did suss our plan "A" no one told them? .... but hopefully get couple of decent players in and Rambo o'dowda stay fit longer will see more consistently better performances snd different tactics.

Yes you are correct, we did but we also threw the towel in before the ball was kicked at home to Leicester and Leeds, then away to Norwich, Southampton and the JB's so inconsistency is also an issue.

One thing is certain, we need new players so it'll be an interesting summer to see who comes in permanently and on loan. And I'll be excited as ever for the first game.

Let's hope he now knows jow championship works and what type of players required to get out of this league? Yes looking forward to season but not hbe fact only 6 start at 3pm at home on Saturdays...

Yes I hate that TV is controlling football. Sky are the biggest to blame for football now being a business first, sport second.

Life was much simpler 40 years ago

No, not happy. I would have gladly sacrificed a few places in the table to have seen a better style of football, more creativity and offensive and expansive minded. Some of the worst football if not the worst considering our wage bill I have seen down the City. Even against equally poor opposition who were there for the taking. One Turkish League slow build defensive tactic that after a good start got worked out by the entire league. Weird how fans want the manager to stay who was unable to adapt and change things during the game when most of the crowd are screaming at him to do so. And still it goes sideways and back to the keeper, the wingers cut inside a full backs wet dream, the isolated striker being easily micro managed .there is no other tactic in this man’s repertoire, set pieces excellent but they slowed down towards the end. Man management very concerning, predictable awful to watch, easy for the opponent to plan against, no pace, a lot of players clearly having the shit coached out of them, Turnbull signing really disappointing because of this, Colwills treatment concerning, happy to tinker with team selection but not with his precious stubborn boring Bulut ball. This tactic will be in place from the off I have seen no evidence as to why I should expect any different. And don’t start me on Rotherham.

However clean slate, appointment needed to be made, I expect worse than last season, but I will be cheering loudly for him and the team as always from the off. I hope he makes me eat my words for the tactics more than league position.

My beef with him is nothing compared to Tan.

We go again good luck Erol. Just mix it up please sir

Most on here will know I didn't want Bulut to have a new contract but I will give him and the team my full support as I always do.

If the style of football doesn't change we will be in a relegation fight next season because every team knows how we are going to play with no plan B.

We finished 12th last season due to the good start we had before Bulut's one and only game plan was sussed out by one and all.

I hope I'm wrong and will gladly eat a big slice of humble pie.

C'mon Bulut, prove me wrong

Did we not beat couple of top teams late in season? So if teams did suss our plan "A" no one told them? .... but hopefully get couple of decent players in and Rambo o'dowda stay fit longer will see more consistently better performances snd different tactics.

Those victories were inspired by the team going for it in the last 10, almost saying f**k this tactic, charging forward mostly led by Rubin playing his natural game. Almost a f**k you to Bulut. We are going for it. And that’s just plain wrong. The league position was above our station, elevated by a good start, set pieces , 9 points from poor derby opposition, and those late late goals. As I say I hope I have egg on my face next season and wish him well

Dreadful style of football with no plan B and awful substitute decisions, not for me.

Yes.

Improvement. Stability. Familiarity.

Top 6 finish would be significant improvement again and should be the goal. Anything less, then circumstances should define whether we stick with or part ways.

Yes I am happy. I know we've had some bad patches and played some awful football but I think he's made enough of an improvement to be given a chance. In judging him, we also need to take account of many factors that may have impeded him in getting more from the team - such as the transfer embargo, playing in an unfamiliar league, in a different country with players whose morale had hit rock bottom. If Manchester United had ditched Alex Ferguson because he did not do well in his first seasons, we would have been deprived of a very special football team. Only time will tell whether Tan made the right decision - but I'm really looking forward to next season.

I can't believe the love for him. In any other period since 2001 this would be a poor season but somehow we have lowered expectations to a shocking level.

I absolutely agree the squad isn't great, but i doubt (and we'd never know) that any other manager before Morison would not have reached the dizzy height of 12th whilst serving up some entertainment.

I was so happy when we hired an experienced German manager as I thought we would try to play a fast-attacking direct game. Instead, we have a 1970's Italian tribute act.

I think it is no coincidence that it took so long to iron out the contract, I can't imagine Tan thinks this is the way to sell the club, and the addition of a highly regarded former coach is telling. I think we'll see a more attacking gameplan next season as EB's brand isn't going to win much affection in the highly lucrative English game based on last season.

Continuity is key though, so when weighing all the pro's and cons I am glad we extended but I doubt it's going to cost Vinny much if we are are not challenging next season.

Can see three at the back next season

Not enthused at all. Came with a goes out to win every game tag and did the complete opposite. Rolled over in many games, the Jacks away was a disgrace! Last season was negative football played in a library. Be interesting what the budget is and what kind of players he brings in. Twelfth place flattered us imo.

I can't believe the love for him. In any other period since 2001 this would be a poor season but somehow we have lowered expectations to a shocking level.

I absolutely agree the squad isn't great, but i doubt (and we'd never know) that any other manager before Morison would not have reached the dizzy height of 12th whilst serving up some entertainment.

I was so happy when we hired an experienced German manager as I thought we would try to play a fast-attacking direct game. Instead, we have a 1970's Italian tribute act.

I think it is no coincidence that it took so long to iron out the contract, I can't imagine Tan thinks this is the way to sell the club, and the addition of a highly regarded former coach is telling. I think we'll see a more attacking gameplan next season as EB's brand isn't going to win much affection in the highly lucrative English game based on last season.

Continuity is key though, so when weighing all the pro's and cons I am glad we extended but I doubt it's going to cost Vinny much if we are are not challenging next season.

Can see three at the back next season

Pretty sure Trollope wasn't able to

“It’s a no from me, I preferred being close to relegation”.

It wasn’t pretty but last season was progress, let’s build on it. Too many fans I feel are a bit entitled and forgetting just how bad it had been over the last few seasons.

“It’s a no from me, I preferred being close to relegation”.

It wasn’t pretty but last season was progress, let’s build on it. Too many fans I feel are a bit entitled and forgetting just how bad it had been over the last few seasons.

Spot On .

“It’s a no from me, I preferred being close to relegation”.

It wasn’t pretty but last season was progress, let’s build on it. Too many fans I feel are a bit entitled and forgetting just how bad it had been over the last few seasons.

Disagree, last season was the worst football, game management, man management, stubborness and predictability I have seen not just 'over the last few seasons' but further back than that. You simply cannot play the modern game with one tactic and refuse to change it when required, that is massively concerning now he has been reappointed. As the worst team in the league by a country mile were smashing five past us all of these symptoms were massively exposed by an already relegated team.

Yes I would have sacrificed a few league positions for on field progress, trying new things, different tactics, more offensive pleasing on the eye transitional play, which admittedly would have come with some defeats but would rather lose 4-3 and 3-2 than lose 3-0 or boring goalless draws. Not once can i recall under Bulut us losing and walking out of the ground, thinking wow we went for it there, what a good account of ourselves we gave there, again, very concerning.

I do not get the love in for him, have our expectations been lowered that much as City fans that we accept this and sing his name? Or is it just the league position he got us to? He got us there with the sixth highest wage bill, yet six places under that, he got us there for reasons other than what his fans perceive as good managerial skills.

Very good Set pieces
A decent start before the whole league worked us out
The poorest league for as long as I can remember, some of our opponents were terrible and we still failed to go for it
Nine points from the worst derby day opposition for many many years
Late goals when a Colwill inspired cavalry decided to rip up Buluts tactic and go for it

All of these things will be likely to have been worked out and diluted this coming season

I fear the season ahead for these reasons, but I will back him from game one, clean slate

“It’s a no from me, I preferred being close to relegation”.

It wasn’t pretty but last season was progress, let’s build on it. Too many fans I feel are a bit entitled and forgetting just how bad it had been over the last few seasons.

Disagree, last season was the worst football, game management, man management, stubborness and predictability I have seen not just 'over the last few seasons' but further back than that. You simply cannot play the modern game with one tactic and refuse to change it when required, that is massively concerning now he has been reappointed. As the worst team in the league by a country mile were smashing five past us all of these symptoms were massively exposed by an already relegated team.

Yes I would have sacrificed a few league positions for on field progress, trying new things, different tactics, more offensive pleasing on the eye transitional play, which admittedly would have come with some defeats but would rather lose 4-3 and 3-2 than lose 3-0 or boring goalless draws. Not once can i recall under Bulut us losing and walking out of the ground, thinking wow we went for it there, what a good account of ourselves we gave there, again, very concerning.

I do not get the love in for him, have our expectations been lowered that much as City fans that we accept this and sing his name? Or is it just the league position he got us to? He got us there with the sixth highest wage bill, yet six places under that, he got us there for reasons other than what his fans perceive as good managerial skills.

Very good Set pieces
A decent start before the whole league worked us out
The poorest league for as long as I can remember, some of our opponents were terrible and we still failed to go for it
Nine points from the worst derby day opposition for many many years
Late goals when a Colwill inspired cavalry decided to rip up Buluts tactic and go for it

All of these things will be likely to have been worked out and diluted this coming season

I fear the season ahead for these reasons, but I will back him from game one, clean slate

Top post mate. Very well summed up and I totally agree.