Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:18 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2024 5:22 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:03 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Tom Davies who is 21 yrs old this year,
Made 9 appearances for Pontypridd United in 2023 on loan
Made only 6 appearances for Kilmarnock in 5 months and only started 2 of them, struggled.
Never played for Cardiff City’s first team.
My view, I am in shock like I was with Kieron Evans 22 yrs old.
100% these decisions were not Erol Buluts.
I do agree they are on very very low wages but, if we really are going for Top 6 or even Top 2 we need a lot better.
Sorry but totally unconvinced???
Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:26 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Tom Davies who is 21 yrs old this year,
Made 9 appearances for Pontypridd United in 2023 on loan
Made only 6 appearances for Kilmarnock in 5 months and only started 2 of them, struggled.
Never played for Cardiff City’s first team.
My view, I am in shock like I was with Kieron Evans 22 yrs old.
100% these decisions were not Erol Buluts.
I do agree they are on very very low wages but, if we really are going for Top 6 or even Top 2 we need a lot better.
Sorry but totally unconvinced???
Need numbers for reserve team and doesn't there have 5o be a certain amount of home grown players registered?
Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:38 pm
pembroke allan wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Tom Davies who is 21 yrs old this year,
Made 9 appearances for Pontypridd United in 2023 on loan
Made only 6 appearances for Kilmarnock in 5 months and only started 2 of them, struggled.
Never played for Cardiff City’s first team.
My view, I am in shock like I was with Kieron Evans 22 yrs old.
100% these decisions were not Erol Buluts.
I do agree they are on very very low wages but, if we really are going for Top 6 or even Top 2 we need a lot better.
Sorry but totally unconvinced???
Need numbers for reserve team and doesn't there have 5o be a certain amount of home grown players registered?
Also need to give them a contract that was better than last one so that we can get compensation if they went due to their age...otherwise would lose them for nothing! Useful for the squad as you say
Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:06 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:33 pm
Forever Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Tom Davies who is 21 yrs old this year,
Made 9 appearances for Pontypridd United in 2023 on loan
Made only 6 appearances for Kilmarnock in 5 months and only started 2 of them, struggled.
Never played for Cardiff City’s first team.
My view, I am in shock like I was with Kieron Evans 22 yrs old.
100% these decisions were not Erol Buluts.
I do agree they are on very very low wages but, if we really are going for Top 6 or even Top 2 we need a lot better.
Sorry but totally unconvinced???
Need numbers for reserve team and doesn't there have 5o be a certain amount of home grown players registered?
Also need to give them a contract that was better than last one so that we can get compensation if they went due to their age...otherwise would lose them for nothing! Useful for the squad as you say
Allan,
I’ve stated it year after year on players like these, they are worthless and will not be help to our first team at all.
Plus Wez says for the U21’s, but for me nearly 21 yrs old and 22yrs old. Should have well and truly made it.
Struggled with Kilmarnock and the played in the lower Mon Leagues, def def not Championship material.
Said it before on 9/10 of our players and year later or 2 years later released time and time again.
I am sat with a Kilmarnock fan and he thought Davies was not good enough at all and they could not wait for him to go.
Remember 3 yrs ago we apparently had 12 great players , All failed badly for us.
We have to stop keeping players like these if we really want to progress.
I really thought we had stopped carrying players and were bringing better in?
We have some great 18 yr olds they should be playing.
Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:51 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Forever Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Tom Davies who is 21 yrs old this year,
Made 9 appearances for Pontypridd United in 2023 on loan
Made only 6 appearances for Kilmarnock in 5 months and only started 2 of them, struggled.
Never played for Cardiff City’s first team.
My view, I am in shock like I was with Kieron Evans 22 yrs old.
100% these decisions were not Erol Buluts.
I do agree they are on very very low wages but, if we really are going for Top 6 or even Top 2 we need a lot better.
Sorry but totally unconvinced???
Need numbers for reserve team and doesn't there have 5o be a certain amount of home grown players registered?
Also need to give them a contract that was better than last one so that we can get compensation if they went due to their age...otherwise would lose them for nothing! Useful for the squad as you say
Allan,
I’ve stated it year after year on players like these, they are worthless and will not be help to our first team at all.
Plus Wez says for the U21’s, but for me nearly 21 yrs old and 22yrs old. Should have well and truly made it.
Struggled with Kilmarnock and the played in the lower Mon Leagues, def def not Championship material.
Said it before on 9/10 of our players and year later or 2 years later released time and time again.
I am sat with a Kilmarnock fan and he thought Davies was not good enough at all and they could not wait for him to go.
Remember 3 yrs ago we apparently had 12 great players , All failed badly for us.
We have to stop keeping players like these if we really want to progress.
I really thought we had stopped carrying players and were bringing better in?
We have some great 18 yr olds they should be playing.
Agree about the age they should be playing in 1st team... and it is bad that we cannot produce homegrown talent it would help if could keep academy staff we've lost several very good coaches like Hughes... like side reason got contract club will now be pade compensation if go......but must question is it worth keeping them for that reason as clearly not good enough for championship.
Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:55 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:38 pm
Mr Moo Cow wrote:Neither of these players are kids - they should be established at this age
They can’t even get games in lower leagues - why are we offering them contracts ?
Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:16 pm
Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:06 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Mr Moo Cow wrote:Neither of these players are kids - they should be established at this age
They can’t even get games in lower leagues - why are we offering them contracts ?
That’s the big big question????
Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:27 pm
Tuna Pasta Bake wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mr Moo Cow wrote:Neither of these players are kids - they should be established at this age
They can’t even get games in lower leagues - why are we offering them contracts ?
That’s the big big question????
Sad to say I think it's because as per usual, the club don't want to spend money, do not have a quality youth development / scouting staff in place, and they simply want to be seen as taking some kind of action, however minimal.
It's not good enough and been this way ever since we last got relegated from the Prem.
Obviously aware of the embargo / legal action circus etcetera. For me, it all points to an ownership who are not sufficiently interested and passionate about taking the club on an upwards trajectory.
New owners would be great, coming in to sweep away a few years of neglect.
Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:08 am
Forever Blue wrote:Tuna Pasta Bake wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mr Moo Cow wrote:Neither of these players are kids - they should be established at this age
They can’t even get games in lower leagues - why are we offering them contracts ?
That’s the big big question????
Sad to say I think it's because as per usual, the club don't want to spend money, do not have a quality youth development / scouting staff in place, and they simply want to be seen as taking some kind of action, however minimal.
It's not good enough and been this way ever since we last got relegated from the Prem.
Obviously aware of the embargo / legal action circus etcetera. For me, it all points to an ownership who are not sufficiently interested and passionate about taking the club on an upwards trajectory.
New owners would be great, coming in to sweep away a few years of neglect.
Absolutely Totally agree with you.
But it’s been stated Min Top 6 to Top 2, then if so I expect quality to come in big time.
Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:52 am
Abergavenny wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Tuna Pasta Bake wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mr Moo Cow wrote:Neither of these players are kids - they should be established at this age
They can’t even get games in lower leagues - why are we offering them contracts ?
That’s the big big question????
Sad to say I think it's because as per usual, the club don't want to spend money, do not have a quality youth development / scouting staff in place, and they simply want to be seen as taking some kind of action, however minimal.
It's not good enough and been this way ever since we last got relegated from the Prem.
Obviously aware of the embargo / legal action circus etcetera. For me, it all points to an ownership who are not sufficiently interested and passionate about taking the club on an upwards trajectory.
New owners would be great, coming in to sweep away a few years of neglect.
Absolutely Totally agree with you.
But it’s been stated Min Top 6 to Top 2, then if so I expect quality to come in big time.
The competition is not great in training when you see who we are offering contracts too at the moment Players who are just not good enough to be first team players or good enough to put pressure on our first team players.