My View so far: We had a reasonable mid table team las

We had a reasonable mid table team last season that could have done better if Ramsey , Robinson and O’Dowda had more game time .

Yes we lost 3 influential players (loanies) in Nat Phillips , Karlan Grant and Josh Bowler , but we have now signed a number of good or really good players, with definitely more to come.

We have also kept Bulut and that is an important plus because now he knows his players , the Championship and how to deal with the unpredictable Tan (he has won him over).


Bulut/The Club/Tan are genuinely talking big ….and obviously this is because they know about the money available , to buy or wages, and they also know their plan.

They are talking about the play-offs as a minimum and automatic promotion as a real target .

Well they have set a high bar and now they have to deliver . With that they will stand or fall .

That is the level they will be judged by.


The majority of our fans are really happy with the signings , many are excited .

Remember we are not done yet .

There are 3-4 weeks till the closure of the transfer window and that is more than enough time to enhance our pisition further .

Yet the bookies are not rating us at all . Mainly mid table and below !! Why ??


Are we the fans and Bulut and Tan and the Club deluded ? Is it because of the tip of a new season expectations ? Is it wishful thinking ?


Will we challenge Leeds , Burnley , Luton , Middllesborough , Coventry , Sheffield Utd (2 points deducted), Norwich ?
Because that is what we have to do if we are to get automatic promotion or finish top six.


There are definitely other clubs who fancy themselves ….not just us …. West Brom (real problems) , Hull (possible problems) , Stoke , Sheffield Wednesday , Sunderland …….these are big clubs.

So the question is are we deluded ?

Are the bookies wrong ?

Will Bulut and Tan finally do enough ….to deliver what they promised ?


In the final analysis just like all players , managers and owners are judged ……the judgement will come with how we will perform on the pitch .


Big money has not been spent buying , But big money is being spent on wages for this coming season.

Where do you think we will finish ?


How happy are you with Bulut snd Tan ?



I must admit that even I was to a degree getting carried away . But , when you consider the opposition and you analyze the situation more ….you sort of start getting rather ….. more real .

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Most analysts are basing their predictions on last season and way we played? I don't imagine for one minute we will play that way with the new recruitment plus o'dowda rambo being fit to start season nothing to suggest they will miss same amount of games this season! Top 6 finish is within their reach at least... you've got to be happy so far with the club and it's support for bulut it appears he's got everything he's asked for.

I am optimistic but as it stands I still don't think we can make the top six. I can equally see us making a slow start to the season despite a good preseason. Three of our new signings (including Robertson) won't be fully fit until September. But importantly the window is not closed yet. There could be some big twists and turns on deadline day including players going out. My cup is still half full at the start of the season and certainly don't subscribe to the bottom 6 predictions given to us by some pundits.

Most analysts are basing their predictions on last season and way we played? I don't imagine for one minute we will play that way with the new recruitment plus o'dowda rambo being fit to start season nothing to suggest they will miss same amount of games this season! Top 6 finish is within their reach at least... you've got to be happy so far with the club and it's support for bulut it appears he's got everything he's asked for.

Allan,

You know I am straight to the point , I have to say Tan is backing Bulut for everything he has asked for and Bulut now has to deliver.

Few points, my opinion:

Tan has a long way to go in terms of making things right. This is a good start and is clearly standing by his word that he will back Bulut.

It was crucial we kept Bulut. Not because of the style of football (or lack of) but because it gives stability, he now knows the areas that were weak, and he actually atands up to Tan. We've not had a manager do that in a while.

Do I think we are going to be top 2? No. I believe we will be pushing for play offs, maybe just inside the play offs.

I am optimistic we can prove the bookies wrong and compete for the top six.

I don’t see us as a top two team though.

As for the bookies, they had us to be relegated last season. I think they had Birmingham competing for the top six and they were relegated.

The reason I’m optimistic is not just the brilliant signings.

It’s also because we will be playing a much more attacking style of football. You can’t compete with the best if you play defensively, not in this league.

Bulut has learned from his first season.

Like you say, more will come in. I can see at least 3/4 coming in.

I predict that El Ghazi, Willock and Robertson will be real fan favourites.

Just can’t wait for it all to get started next week now.

I am optimistic but as it stands I still don't think we can make the top six. I can equally see us making a slow start to the season despite a good preseason. Three of our new signings (including Robertson) won't be fully fit until September. But importantly the window is not closed yet. There could be some big twists and turns on deadline day including players going out. My cup is still half full at the start of the season and certainly don't subscribe to the bottom 6 predictions given to us by some pundits.

My worry still is, will we score goals even with all these very good signings ?

Few points, my opinion:

Tan has a long way to go in terms of making things right. This is a good start and is clearly standing by his word that he will back Bulut.

It was crucial we kept Bulut. Not because of the style of football (or lack of) but because it gives stability, he now knows the areas that were weak, and he actually atands up to Tan. We've not had a manager do that in a while.

Do I think we are going to be top 2? No. I believe we will be pushing for play offs, maybe just inside the play offs.

I will never forgive Tan for the Rebrand or for Dividing or fan base or for taking the Soul out of our club

But he knows the only way he will get big money for us now is promotion .

I am optimistic we can prove the bookies wrong and compete for the top six.

I don’t see us as a top two team though.

As for the bookies, they had us to be relegated last season. I think they had Birmingham competing for the top six and they were relegated.

The reason I’m optimistic is not just the brilliant signings.

It’s also because we will be playing a much more attacking style of football. You can’t compete with the best if you play defensively, not in this league.

Bulut has learned from his first season.

Like you say, more will come in. I can see at least 3/4 coming in.

I predict that El Ghazi, Willock and Robertson will be real fan favourites.

Just can’t wait for it all to get started next week now.

Ned,

I agree Top 6 can be done, Top 2 Hmmmmmmmmm?

Bulut should be a lot better in his 2nd season and will have learnt a lot, from last season.

I am optimistic but as it stands I still don't think we can make the top six. I can equally see us making a slow start to the season despite a good preseason. Three of our new signings (including Robertson) won't be fully fit until September. But importantly the window is not closed yet. There could be some big twists and turns on deadline day including players going out. My cup is still half full at the start of the season and certainly don't subscribe to the bottom 6 predictions given to us by some pundits.

My worry still is, will we score goals even with all these very good signings ?

I agree and another striker is still my hope before deadline day.

I am optimistic but as it stands I still don't think we can make the top six. I can equally see us making a slow start to the season despite a good preseason. Three of our new signings (including Robertson) won't be fully fit until September. But importantly the window is not closed yet. There could be some big twists and turns on deadline day including players going out. My cup is still half full at the start of the season and certainly don't subscribe to the bottom 6 predictions given to us by some pundits.

My worry still is, will we score goals even with all these very good signings ?

Annis,

A fit Rambo could be the difference here

I think he will see players running behind this season, and a fit rambo will be able to pick them out. We didn't have his vision for most of last season

I am optimistic but as it stands I still don't think we can make the top six. I can equally see us making a slow start to the season despite a good preseason. Three of our new signings (including Robertson) won't be fully fit until September. But importantly the window is not closed yet. There could be some big twists and turns on deadline day including players going out. My cup is still half full at the start of the season and certainly don't subscribe to the bottom 6 predictions given to us by some pundits.

My worry still is, will we score goals even with all these very good signings ?

Annis,

A fit Rambo could be the difference here

I think he will see players running behind this season, and a fit rambo will be able to pick them out. We didn't have his vision for most of last season

I do agree, a fit Rambo will win games for us.

If we can get 20 games out of Ramsey ( big ask I now) we have a genuine chance to push for top 6

If we can get 20 games out of Ramsey ( big ask I now) we have a genuine chance to push for top 6

Why is it a big ask? Last seasons injury if you read it was unusual and not a normal injury ....any knee injury as a long recovery time and is not a sighn a player is injury prone! Yes his game time needs looking at but it doesn't mean only play every other game? Giggs was injury prone until changed his car ( helped stop pulled hamstrings) after that no problem played most games at 37+....

I am optimistic we can prove the bookies wrong and compete for the top six.

I don’t see us as a top two team though.

As for the bookies, they had us to be relegated last season. I think they had Birmingham competing for the top six and they were relegated.

The reason I’m optimistic is not just the brilliant signings.

It’s also because we will be playing a much more attacking style of football. You can’t compete with the best if you play defensively, not in this league.

Bulut has learned from his first season.

Like you say, more will come in. I can see at least 3/4 coming in.

I predict that El Ghazi, Willock and Robertson will be real fan favourites.

Just can’t wait for it all to get started next week now.

Ned,

I agree Top 6 can be done, Top 2 Hmmmmmmmmm?

Bulut should be a lot better in his 2nd season and will have learnt a lot, from last season.

IMO we still need 3 first team players to challenge for top 6.

We are missing a prolific goal scorer still

I am optimistic we can prove the bookies wrong and compete for the top six.

I don’t see us as a top two team though.

As for the bookies, they had us to be relegated last season. I think they had Birmingham competing for the top six and they were relegated.

The reason I’m optimistic is not just the brilliant signings.

It’s also because we will be playing a much more attacking style of football. You can’t compete with the best if you play defensively, not in this league.

Bulut has learned from his first season.

Like you say, more will come in. I can see at least 3/4 coming in.

I predict that El Ghazi, Willock and Robertson will be real fan favourites.

Just can’t wait for it all to get started next week now.

Ned,

I agree Top 6 can be done, Top 2 Hmmmmmmmmm?

Bulut should be a lot better in his 2nd season and will have learnt a lot, from last season.

IMO we still need 3 first team players to challenge for top 6.

We are missing a prolific goal scorer still

We will sign another striker because of the injury to Davies. I was told that the plan was for Davies to be one of our main strikers this season.

But I don’t like the way people are suddenly writing off Kanga based on 20 minutes in a friendly after being with the team less than a week.

Also, last time we got promoted I think our top scorer had less than 10 goals. If you share the goals out, which we have the players to do, you don’t need a 15 goal striker.

But people need to give Kanga the time to show what he can do, I have a good feeling he has the right attributes.

Put simply there are not enough goals in this team to compete! We need a recognised striker at this level. Sell McG and buy a top notch striker.

I am optimistic we can prove the bookies wrong and compete for the top six.

I don’t see us as a top two team though.

As for the bookies, they had us to be relegated last season. I think they had Birmingham competing for the top six and they were relegated.

The reason I’m optimistic is not just the brilliant signings.

It’s also because we will be playing a much more attacking style of football. You can’t compete with the best if you play defensively, not in this league.

Bulut has learned from his first season.

Like you say, more will come in. I can see at least 3/4 coming in.

I predict that El Ghazi, Willock and Robertson will be real fan favourites.

Just can’t wait for it all to get started next week now.

Ned,

I agree Top 6 can be done, Top 2 Hmmmmmmmmm?

Bulut should be a lot better in his 2nd season and will have learnt a lot, from last season.

IMO we still need 3 first team players to challenge for top 6.

We are missing a prolific goal scorer still

We will sign another striker because of the injury to Davies. I was told that the plan was for Davies to be one of our main strikers this season.

But I don’t like the way people are suddenly writing off Kanga based on 20 minutes in a friendly after being with the team less than a week.

Also, last time we got promoted I think our top scorer had less than 10 goals. If you share the goals out, which we have the players to do, you don’t need a 15 goal striker.

But people need to give Kanga the time to show what he can do, I have a good feeling he has the right attributes.

Ned a 30+ goal striker did Blackburn a lot of good? What is really needed is like say goals spread around the team .... and it looks like we've got that "IF" we play attacking football

Put simply there are not enough goals in this team to compete! We need a recognised striker at this level. Sell McG and buy a top notch striker.

Goals all over will help.

But you sell McGuinness, then that’s two CBs we need and not one.

Put simply there are not enough goals in this team to compete! We need a recognised striker at this level. Sell McG and buy a top notch striker.

We have recognised strikers at this level. They’re strikers and people recognise them

But being serious, you’re asking for something that doesn’t really exist.

We have signed a striker and people need to give him more than 20 minutes before they judge him.

If we can get 20 games out of Ramsey ( big ask I now) we have a genuine chance to push for top 6

Agree .

Just above mid table I think we will finish.

Top two no chance.
In the playoffs wishful thinking Imo.

Unless we sign three more proven players in the champ or above that level i don't see anything different to last season in truth but fingers crossed.

I won't be on here slagging off the manager like some after six games because we are not in 4th spot tbh as I'm not delusional like some. :

If we can keep the key players off the treatment table then we may do better. Ramsey I feel won't be lasting five games I guess but we shall see

Most seem to be happy with the players we have got in so far and we still have time for more

I am optimistic we can prove the bookies wrong and compete for the top six.

I don’t see us as a top two team though.

As for the bookies, they had us to be relegated last season. I think they had Birmingham competing for the top six and they were relegated.

The reason I’m optimistic is not just the brilliant signings.

It’s also because we will be playing a much more attacking style of football. You can’t compete with the best if you play defensively, not in this league.

Bulut has learned from his first season.

Like you say, more will come in. I can see at least 3/4 coming in.

I predict that El Ghazi, Willock and Robertson will be real fan favourites.

Just can’t wait for it all to get started next week now.

Ned,

I agree Top 6 can be done, Top 2 Hmmmmmmmmm?

Bulut should be a lot better in his 2nd season and will have learnt a lot, from last season.

IMO we still need 3 first team players to challenge for top 6.

We are missing a prolific goal scorer still

We will sign another striker because of the injury to Davies. I was told that the plan was for Davies to be one of our main strikers this season.

But I don’t like the way people are suddenly writing off Kanga based on 20 minutes in a friendly after being with the team less than a week.

Also, last time we got promoted I think our top scorer had less than 10 goals. If you share the goals out, which we have the players to do, you don’t need a 15 goal striker.

But people need to give Kanga the time to show what he can do, I have a good feeling he has the right attributes.

Not writing kanga off as I didn’t watch him last weekend but even with the squad now we don’t have enough goals.

Unfortunately going on Ramsey track record I can’t see him playing to many games.

Wilock and al ghazi could get 5-7 goals but colwill never scores, Ralls doesn’t score many. Robinson could get up to 10 if he has a good season which still leaves us short.

With Davies out until probably close to Xmas we definitely need another striker

Just above mid table I think we will finish.

Top two no chance.
In the playoffs wishful thinking Imo.

Unless we sign three more proven players in the champ or above that level i don't see anything different to last season in truth but fingers crossed.

I won't be on here slagging off the manager like some after six games because we are not in 4th spot tbh as I'm not delusional like some. :

If we can keep the key players off the treatment table then we may do better. Ramsey I feel won't be lasting five games I guess but we shall see

I like your posts Ian because for me you are one of the more realistic posters on here.

I find a number of posters on here delusional but i don't have a go because its good to be positive providing you can handle the disappointment. I like being on the bottom ruin of the ladder becuase you don't have far to fall when things go bad.

Apart from El Ghazi at this stage o am not sure if the players that have come in are a great step above the loan players who went back
I feel that our season will depend more on getting Ramsey fit along with Odowda who i feel we missed greatly over the season and Robinson continuing the form of preseason. Will a few more decent signing I can see us pushing for the top six.
I can’t see us as it currently stands worrying a top two position thou

I'm really pleased with all the signings so far, Bulut has done really well. Lots of attacking talent and experience and having Rambo and O'Dowda back is like another 2 signings. Rambo will be key this season, not just for his own ability, but he can bring the best out of the players around him.

We definitely need more goals this season and I feel this squad is capable of producing that. We haven't seen much of Kanga yet so I'm excited to see what he can do.

As others have said there will probably be more coming in. With Davies out for half the season we need another striker and maybe a left footed CB who can cover at LB.

With Robertson coming in we have top quality throughout the midfield. On paper we currently have one of the best squads in the Championship and we aren't finished yet.

I'm hoping Bulut has learned from his mistakes from last season. We have seen in pre season that the ball has been getting forward quicker which is a huge plus.

I'm always optimistic at the start of every season but this time more than I can remember. It is however the Championship and as we've seen in previous years, anyone can make a challenge for promotion.

I think top 2 may be too much but you never know. With this squad we should be finishing in the play offs, and I think we''ll finally win a final at Wembley

Over to you Mr Bulut.

I think we are the same as last year atm with the signings we have made , mid table .
We still need a decent striker .

Just above mid table I think we will finish.

Top two no chance.
In the playoffs wishful thinking Imo.

Unless we sign three more proven players in the champ or above that level i don't see anything different to last season in truth but fingers crossed.

I won't be on here slagging off the manager like some after six games because we are not in 4th spot tbh as I'm not delusional like some. :

If we can keep the key players off the treatment table then we may do better. Ramsey I feel won't be lasting five games I guess but we shall see

I like your posts Ian because for me you are one of the more realistic posters on here.

I find a number of posters on here delusional but i don't have a go because its good to be positive providing you can handle the disappointment. I like being on the bottom ruin of the ladder becuase you don't have far to fall when things go bad.

Yep I'm not expected miracles with freebies mate like some so like I said above in my original post I won't be crying about anything this season squad depending of course as we go on with the season we shall see