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Welsh Exile wrote:This comes across as though he’s resigned to let mcguiness go ?
Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:10 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Welsh Exile wrote:This comes across as though he’s resigned to let mcguiness go ?
I took it as the exact opposite.
Paraphrasing:
“He’s a good player so there will be interest but we don’t have to sell and he’ll only go at the right price.”
Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:45 pm
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Forever Blue wrote:Home form?
Of course, the home form, everyone is targeting to have more wins at home, but when we see last season, we had nine or 10, away nearly the same. It could be better. We had many games we could win, but we conceded goals.
Our target is to have more wins at home. To have aggressive football at home. But game by game, it changes. It depends against which team you play against.
Erol Bulut
Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:19 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Erol Bulut:
“Joel Bagan did really good pre-season,we will see how he continues.”
“Eli King was good. Even when we send him for a loan last season, he had a really good season.”
"We’ll have to see the final decision with the youngsters, who we’ll keep for the season and who will go out for another loan.”
Joel Bagan 23 years old
Eli King 22 years old in a few months.
My View:
If they are going to make it’s now or move them out for good.
Yes they’ve impressed but at lower levels.
Their age they should have made it now.
Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:31 pm
Tuna Pasta Bake wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Erol Bulut:
“Joel Bagan did really good pre-season,we will see how he continues.”
“Eli King was good. Even when we send him for a loan last season, he had a really good season.”
"We’ll have to see the final decision with the youngsters, who we’ll keep for the season and who will go out for another loan.”
Joel Bagan 23 years old
Eli King 22 years old in a few months.
My View:
If they are going to make it’s now or move them out for good.
Yes they’ve impressed but at lower levels.
Their age they should have made it now.
Totally agree, 22 or 23 years old - they're either good enough for the Championship or they're not. The manager needs to make a decision on this rather than keep shipping them out on loan. If they go out again, they're not going to make it in the Championship.
Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:45 pm
Tuna Pasta Bake wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Home form?
Of course, the home form, everyone is targeting to have more wins at home, but when we see last season, we had nine or 10, away nearly the same. It could be better. We had many games we could win, but we conceded goals.
Our target is to have more wins at home. To have aggressive football at home. But game by game, it changes. It depends against which team you play against.
Erol Bulut
For me, I don't care who we play - if we're at home I want to see us go for it - no passing across the back line for most of the match!
Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:59 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Tuna Pasta Bake wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Erol Bulut:
“Joel Bagan did really good pre-season,we will see how he continues.”
“Eli King was good. Even when we send him for a loan last season, he had a really good season.”
"We’ll have to see the final decision with the youngsters, who we’ll keep for the season and who will go out for another loan.”
Joel Bagan 23 years old
Eli King 22 years old in a few months.
My View:
If they are going to make it’s now or move them out for good.
Yes they’ve impressed but at lower levels.
Their age they should have made it now.
Totally agree, 22 or 23 years old - they're either good enough for the Championship or they're not. The manager needs to make a decision on this rather than keep shipping them out on loan. If they go out again, they're not going to make it in the Championship.
Agreed
Just look we have Signed Robertson and he will be first team and he’s 19yrs old
Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:32 pm
Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:33 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Tuna Pasta Bake wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Erol Bulut:
“Joel Bagan did really good pre-season,we will see how he continues.”
“Eli King was good. Even when we send him for a loan last season, he had a really good season.”
"We’ll have to see the final decision with the youngsters, who we’ll keep for the season and who will go out for another loan.”
Joel Bagan 23 years old
Eli King 22 years old in a few months.
My View:
If they are going to make it’s now or move them out for good.
Yes they’ve impressed but at lower levels.
Their age they should have made it now.
Totally agree, 22 or 23 years old - they're either good enough for the Championship or they're not. The manager needs to make a decision on this rather than keep shipping them out on loan. If they go out again, they're not going to make it in the Championship.
Agreed
Just look we have Signed Robertson and he will be first team and he’s 19yrs old
The same goes for Rubin Colwill then?
Hasn’t been consistently starting games so should go?
Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:38 pm
Tuna Pasta Bake wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Tuna Pasta Bake wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Erol Bulut:
“Joel Bagan did really good pre-season,we will see how he continues.”
“Eli King was good. Even when we send him for a loan last season, he had a really good season.”
"We’ll have to see the final decision with the youngsters, who we’ll keep for the season and who will go out for another loan.”
Joel Bagan 23 years old
Eli King 22 years old in a few months.
My View:
If they are going to make it’s now or move them out for good.
Yes they’ve impressed but at lower levels.
Their age they should have made it now.
Totally agree, 22 or 23 years old - they're either good enough for the Championship or they're not. The manager needs to make a decision on this rather than keep shipping them out on loan. If they go out again, they're not going to make it in the Championship.
Agreed
Just look we have Signed Robertson and he will be first team and he’s 19yrs old
The same goes for Rubin Colwill then?
Hasn’t been consistently starting games so should go?
Ruben has been involved in more matches over the past couple of seasons than Bagan etc.
I think Annis made a good point - this Robertson lad is 21 and he will go straight into the first team when ready.
Surely by now, our coaches should know whether Bagan et al can cut it consistently at this level?
Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:41 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Tuna Pasta Bake wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Home form?
Of course, the home form, everyone is targeting to have more wins at home, but when we see last season, we had nine or 10, away nearly the same. It could be better. We had many games we could win, but we conceded goals.
Our target is to have more wins at home. To have aggressive football at home. But game by game, it changes. It depends against which team you play against.
Erol Bulut
For me, I don't care who we play - if we're at home I want to see us go for it - no passing across the back line for most of the match!
With due respect you do not go for it every game at home simply because
Not every team plays gung ho football away from home..... What was one of our main reasons lost so many goals at home ? the counter attack because got caught out pressing to many players forward! We play to our strengths and defend strongly...... but as you say not along back line so much
Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:08 pm
Tuna Pasta Bake wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Tuna Pasta Bake wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Home form?
Of course, the home form, everyone is targeting to have more wins at home, but when we see last season, we had nine or 10, away nearly the same. It could be better. We had many games we could win, but we conceded goals.
Our target is to have more wins at home. To have aggressive football at home. But game by game, it changes. It depends against which team you play against.
Erol Bulut
For me, I don't care who we play - if we're at home I want to see us go for it - no passing across the back line for most of the match!
With due respect you do not go for it every game at home simply because
Not every team plays gung ho football away from home..... What was one of our main reasons lost so many goals at home ? the counter attack because got caught out pressing to many players forward! We play to our strengths and defend strongly...... but as you say not along back line so much
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
I stand by my view that in the Championship we should at least attempt to play on the front foot in every home match. For me, the supporters expect that.
More often than not, we got caught out at the back because our defenders had too much of the ball for too long and our inverted wingers / forward / no.10 could not keep hold of the ball for more than 2 or 3 passes - the wingers tried to cut inside and ended up getting nowhere, passing the ball back to the CDM or full back for the ball to be recycled again and again - all that put extra pressure on our defence!
You counteract that by playing more positive, incisive football with a goal threat.
Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:16 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:Welsh Exile wrote:This comes across as though he’s resigned to let mcguiness go ?
I took it as the exact opposite.
Paraphrasing:
“He’s a good player so there will be interest but we don’t have to sell and he’ll only go at the right price.”