Really Mark McGuinness £10 Mill?????

Just spoke to 3 Different Luton Fans

A couple very good friends of mine.

NO WAY HAVE LUTON OFFERED £10MILL

Or even £4mill


It’s paper talk ( loac as usual told to start it) deliberately our end pushed by the Hierarchy to get other Clubs interested.

Luton are holding back on their money to complete their new stadium and not even going full out to try and go back up till it’s built / finished 2026

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To be fair, it was said that we’ll only accept £10m (which I don’t believe by the way, it’ll be less) and not that they’d offered it.

Like I said, I think it’ll take quite a bit less than £10m for him to go.

To be fair, it was said that we’ll only accept £10m (which I don’t believe by the way, it’ll be less) and not that they’d offered it.

Like I said, I think it’ll take quite a bit less than £10m for him to go.

Fair enough Ned,

But Luton have not even offered £4mill.

I honestly believe if a club offered £4milo we would take it.

To be fair, it was said that we’ll only accept £10m (which I don’t believe by the way, it’ll be less) and not that they’d offered it.

Like I said, I think it’ll take quite a bit less than £10m for him to go.

Fair enough Ned,

But Luton have not even offered £4mill.

I honestly believe if a club offered £4mill we would take it.

Yeah I agree with that.

Pretty sure we’ve valued him at 10m and it was reported we had an offer of 4/5m

If we sell McGuinness it will show a lack of ambition from the club.
If the board have put his name out there, shame on them.

If we sell McGuinness it will show a lack of ambition from the club.
If the board have put his name out there, shame on them.

A bit of an overreaction

I’m no supporter of the ownership, but they have showed ambition with the signings this summer.

I am still of the opinion than McGuinness’ price is at it’s highest level it ever will be so would take the money now if it’s a decent amount. Don’t see him ever getting a PL move because his passing isn’t good enough.

10 years ago, he would have been a top defender in the PL. But unfortunately for him, being just a good defender isn’t enough anymore.

If we sell McGuinness it will show a lack of ambition from the club.
If the board have put his name out there, shame on them.

Why is it that every time we even attempt to get a decent price for one of our players & might end up selling them or don't sign someone for whatever reason it's down to a lack of ambition at the club? Yet when any other club sells a player for any price over a few quid it's "good business", give it a rest with the lack of ambition crap. Players come & players go, get over it & stop saying everything is "a lack of ambition". It's been boring for a while & it's just BS, particularly this transfer window.

If we sell McGuinness it will show a lack of ambition from the club.
If the board have put his name out there, shame on them.

A bit of an overreaction

I’m no supporter of the ownership, but they have showed ambition with the signings this summer.

I am still of the opinion than McGuinness’ price is at it’s highest level it ever will be so would take the money now if it’s a decent amount. Don’t see him ever getting a PL move because his passing isn’t good enough.

10 years ago, he would have been a top defender in the PL. But unfortunately for him, being just a good defender isn’t enough anymore.

I don't agree with the passing bit.

His stats for last season are as follows:

Passes attempted: 1383
Passes successful: 1179
Pass success rate: 85.25

Jacob Greaves in comparison had 89% and was arguably the best centreback in the league.

Goutas 83%.

And here's the stand out one.

Nat Phillips 84%. He's a premier league defender.

Feel it's a bit harsh on McGuinness.

Not saying he's worth 10m, he isn't. But to say his passing isn't very good (multiple times) is wrong.

Pretty sure we’ve valued him at 10m and it was reported we had an offer of 4/5m

You are spot on - It was us who said about the £10 M fee ....

Cardiff City manager Erol Bulut has stated that centre half Mark McGuinness will only leave the Bluebirds if his price tag is met, following rumours the Hatters were readying a bid for the former Arsenal youngster.

With Town looking to shore up their defensive options going into the new season, they were linked with a move for the Republic of Ireland U21 international on Monday afternoon. The 23-year-old only penned a new four year deal 12 months ago, meaning Luton will need to fork out a sizable sum for the defender, with the Bluebirds reportedly slapping a £10m valuation on one of their prized assets after the rumours broke.

Discussing the speculation when speaking to Wales Online, Bolut said of the player who has played 85 times since moving to Wales in June 2021: “It is normal he gets offers. Great player. Great defender. Only 23. He can add much more quality. It’s the reason clubs are interested in him. But we have to get the value we are targeting for. Otherwise no player will move. Players signed new contracts.

If we sell McGuinness it will show a lack of ambition from the club.
If the board have put his name out there, shame on them.

A bit of an overreaction

I’m no supporter of the ownership, but they have showed ambition with the signings this summer.

I am still of the opinion than McGuinness’ price is at it’s highest level it ever will be so would take the money now if it’s a decent amount. Don’t see him ever getting a PL move because his passing isn’t good enough.

10 years ago, he would have been a top defender in the PL. But unfortunately for him, being just a good defender isn’t enough anymore.

I don't agree with the passing bit.

His stats for last season are as follows:

Passes attempted: 1383
Passes successful: 1179
Pass success rate: 85.25

Jacob Greaves in comparison had 89% and was arguably the best centreback in the league.

Goutas 83%.

And here's the stand out one.

Nat Phillips 84%. He's a premier league defender.

Feel it's a bit harsh on McGuinness.

Not saying he's worth 10m, he isn't. But to say his passing isn't very good (multiple times) is wrong.

It’s not the quality of passes, it’s the type of passes. His passes are often back to the goalkeeper.

Chambers, for example, is good at playing passes into the midfield or full backs which is much more important.

So I stand by what I’ve said multiple times.

If we sell McGuinness it will show a lack of ambition from the club.
If the board have put his name out there, shame on them.

A bit of an overreaction

I’m no supporter of the ownership, but they have showed ambition with the signings this summer.

I am still of the opinion than McGuinness’ price is at it’s highest level it ever will be so would take the money now if it’s a decent amount. Don’t see him ever getting a PL move because his passing isn’t good enough.

10 years ago, he would have been a top defender in the PL. But unfortunately for him, being just a good defender isn’t enough anymore.

I don't agree with the passing bit.

His stats for last season are as follows:

Passes attempted: 1383
Passes successful: 1179
Pass success rate: 85.25

Jacob Greaves in comparison had 89% and was arguably the best centreback in the league.

Goutas 83%.

And here's the stand out one.

Nat Phillips 84%. He's a premier league defender.

Feel it's a bit harsh on McGuinness.

Not saying he's worth 10m, he isn't. But to say his passing isn't very good (multiple times) is wrong.

It’s not the quality of passes, it’s the type of passes. His passes are often back to the goalkeeper.

Chambers, for example, is good at playing passes into the midfield or full backs which is much more important.

So I stand by what I’ve said multiple times.

Passing stats are pointless unless they show where the passes went? Making 200 passes with 99% success rate doesn't tell you player passed backwards 200 times at a distance of 5yrds too achieve the stat....

I think you will find the club has NEVER once said it had received any sort of bid for McGuiness

Only thing that has come from inside the club is Bulut saying we don’t have to sell

A 23 year old centre half who has played very well for us and Sheffield Wednesday and with another good 10 years in his career. I believe the club are quite right placing a very high valuation on him. This forum would be up in arms if we sold him on the cheap ( like a lot of people still moan about selling Ramsey to Arsenal so cheaply ).I'm delighted if we are putting out the message - if you want him you will need to pay us what we think he is worth. Great to see some posters are already lauding Chambers' passing ability after a couple of halves in friendly games.Lol

A 23 year old centre half who has played very well for us and Sheffield Wednesday and with another good 10 years in his career. I believe the club are quite right placing a very high valuation on him. This forum would be up in arms if we sold him on the cheap ( like a lot of people still moan about selling Ramsey to Arsenal so cheaply ).I'm delighted if we are putting out the message - if you want him you will need to pay us what we think he is worth. Great to see some posters are already lauding Chambers' passing ability after a couple of halves in friendly games.Lol

I’m not basing it just off friendly games actually.

Look at how he played for Arsenal and Villa as well, then you’ll see I’m right.

By the way I don’t see a load of clubs queuing up for the wonder kid that is McGuinness??

Says here that the club put this out to try and get more interest in him.

They wouldn’t have to do that if he was the Beckenbauer people are making him out to be.

Yes I remember how good he was for Arsenal - even Josh Murphy took him to the cleaners lol

Yes I remember how good he was for Arsenal - even Josh Murphy took him to the cleaners lol

When he was playing at RB not CB and you’re basing that on one match? That’s no different to judging him off a friendly.

I remember Hudson, Bamba, McNaughton etc making mistakes that lead to goals.

I’m guessing those single matches sum up their careers too?

Let's judge it over the coming months when we can see them both in action. I have seen McGuiness week in week out but cannot say the same about Chambers. But I say again great that the club is saying if you want our players you pay our price.

Sell. We wouldn't miss him. We are also still in debt and he's a relitively high value asset.

Also my main point is Luton have not even put an offer in for Mark McGuinness

If we sell McGuinness it will show a lack of ambition from the club.
If the board have put his name out there, shame on them.

A bit of an overreaction

I’m no supporter of the ownership, but they have showed ambition with the signings this summer.

I am still of the opinion than McGuinness’ price is at it’s highest level it ever will be so would take the money now if it’s a decent amount. Don’t see him ever getting a PL move because his passing isn’t good enough.

10 years ago, he would have been a top defender in the PL. But unfortunately for him, being just a good defender isn’t enough anymore.

I don't agree with the passing bit.

His stats for last season are as follows:

Passes attempted: 1383
Passes successful: 1179
Pass success rate: 85.25

Jacob Greaves in comparison had 89% and was arguably the best centreback in the league.

Goutas 83%.

And here's the stand out one.

Nat Phillips 84%. He's a premier league defender.

Feel it's a bit harsh on McGuinness.

Not saying he's worth 10m, he isn't. But to say his passing isn't very good (multiple times) is wrong.

It’s not the quality of passes, it’s the type of passes. His passes are often back to the goalkeeper.

Chambers, for example, is good at playing passes into the midfield or full backs which is much more important.

So I stand by what I’ve said multiple times.

It's funny how you can dismiss these stats and say that Goutas'/Chambers passes are more forward thinking with even less evidence to back that.

For me MM is our strongest CB and only 23 with a high ceiling, that's why other clubs want him.

If a premiership club wants to offer 10m then the club would clearly accept but to sell to our championship rivals for anything around 5m would be madness.

If we sell McGuinness it will show a lack of ambition from the club.
If the board have put his name out there, shame on them.

A bit of an overreaction

I’m no supporter of the ownership, but they have showed ambition with the signings this summer.

I am still of the opinion than McGuinness’ price is at it’s highest level it ever will be so would take the money now if it’s a decent amount. Don’t see him ever getting a PL move because his passing isn’t good enough.

10 years ago, he would have been a top defender in the PL. But unfortunately for him, being just a good defender isn’t enough anymore.

I don't agree with the passing bit.

His stats for last season are as follows:

Passes attempted: 1383
Passes successful: 1179
Pass success rate: 85.25

Jacob Greaves in comparison had 89% and was arguably the best centreback in the league.

Goutas 83%.

And here's the stand out one.

Nat Phillips 84%. He's a premier league defender.

Feel it's a bit harsh on McGuinness.

Not saying he's worth 10m, he isn't. But to say his passing isn't very good (multiple times) is wrong.

It’s not the quality of passes, it’s the type of passes. His passes are often back to the goalkeeper.

Chambers, for example, is good at playing passes into the midfield or full backs which is much more important.

So I stand by what I’ve said multiple times.

It's funny how you can dismiss these stats and say that Goutas'/Chambers passes are more forward thinking with even less evidence to back that.

For me MM is our strongest CB and only 23 with a high ceiling, that's why other clubs want him.

If a premiership club wants to offer 10m then the club would clearly accept but to sell to our championship rivals for anything around 5m would be madness.

How do you we know other clubs want him?

Says here that the club are putting his name out so that suggests there isn’t much interest?

£5Mill is not madness. It would be madness to not take it.

Just going on what's being reported that another championship club has declared an interest.

Where's your evidence that the club are touting him around?

I get that it's your opinion and you don't have to rate him, it's just my opinion that he's a leader, dominant in both boxes and puts his body on the line for the team.

He makes less unforced errors than Goutas who is someone I also rate highly.

With his age he's someone you could build a team around and is a future captain. I feel like the club have stated, unless an offer of over 10m comes in there's no way I would sell.

I have to say we as a fan base don't realise how good some of our players are until they're gone.

It used to amaze me that some didn't rate Gunnerson and Whits.

Just going on what's being reported that another championship club has declared an interest.

Where's your evidence that the club are touting him around?

I get that it's your opinion and you don't have to rate him, it's just my opinion that he's a leader, dominant in both boxes and puts his body on the line for the team.

He makes less unforced errors than Goutas who is someone I also rate highly.

With his age he's someone you could build a team around and is a future captain. I feel like the club have stated, unless an offer of over 10m comes in there's no way I would sell.

I have to say we as a fan base don't realise how could some of our players are until they're gone.

It used to amaze me that some didn't rate Gunnerson and Whits.

Agree about Gunarssson and Whitts, two quality players for us but often got roundly criticised.