Negativity.

The negativity is something that we see on here consistently regardless of the result, the style of play, the signings, the list goes on.

We knew that we wouldn't be the full team due to injuries and down to the new signings needing time.

We are ONE game in. ONE.

Regardless of what the usual suspects say, we DID play a different style of football. We WERE more attack focused.

I'm seeing L1 being said by some fans already.

Bloody ridiculous.

It’s not ridiculous whatsoever to say L1.
Based on that performance, yes it is a possiblity.

Sunderland have the youngest team of players in the championship. Defensively was an absolute shit show.

Their goal was a free header, the second goal you could see what Jack Clarke was going to do about 5 seconds before he even scored the second.
Looked toothless in attack again.

The only good thing was the build up play in between both boxes.
If this is what is in store all season, league 1 will be around the corner.

Siopsis for brillient, he was everywhere, chased, blocked, made himself available.

willock did really well, fair play

tanner was shite and lazy, robinson could not score in the wynford, yhou cannot keep carrying players and expect results, so hopefully it's all sunshine once these two are benched or moved on

ps if i was manager colwill would be wearing a wig than that rug he;s got now

i genuinely didnt see an improvement in last season, defence playing sidewards balls midfield not collecting the ball, and no end product, its not negativity its just what i seen. we are 2/3 players off the play offs in my opinion

Still players to come in, striker needed immediately.

Spot on.

People will get carried away one way or the other. If we win, we’d be champions elect. Because we lost, we must be going down.

45 games to go.

I thought we were better than Sunderland.

The negativity is something that we see on here consistently regardless of the result, the style of play, the signings, the list goes on.

We knew that we wouldn't be the full team due to injuries and down to the new signings needing time.

We are ONE game in. ONE.

Regardless of what the usual suspects say, we DID play a different style of football. We WERE more attack focused.

I'm seeing L1 being said by some fans already.

Bloody ridiculous.

I was about to say the same thing, the negativity is unreal. It is the 1st game of the season, yeah it would of been nice to win, but it is the 1st game. There were some amazing positives to take from that, Willock being the main one. We are creating chances, more than last season and i believe it will only be a matter of time until we start banging them in.

If we had been given the pens and scored them people would be saying how good we played.

It’s not ridiculous whatsoever to say L1.
Based on that performance, yes it is a possiblity.

Sunderland have the youngest team of players in the championship. Defensively was an absolute shit show.

Their goal was a free header, the second goal you could see what Jack Clarke was going to do about 5 seconds before he even scored the second.
Looked toothless in attack again.

The only good thing was the build up play in between both boxes.
If this is what is in store all season, league 1 will be around the corner.

It is ridiculous. One game into the season for crying out loud.

God forbid we lost our first game, when we don't even have our full strength team yet.

I don’t think it’s a case of negativity, it’s just disappointment. Yes certain people will go to the extreme and say we look like a relegation team.

But today we created little to no chances, which was our biggest downfall last season. And another problem from last season was defensive errors, again both their goals today could have been avoided if Ng was aware. For the second he must have been the only person in the stadium not expecting Clarke to cut in.

In the attacking sense today we just had no urgency, the amount of crosses we put in, in the first half today and it was only Robinson in the box was as if we had no game plan. Whilst we had the upper hand in midfield for the majority we did not capitalise on it at all, and Ramsey didn’t influence the game in an attacking sense.

Nothing wrong with wanting your team to have a Winning mentality

Look how last season ended. Look how it’s begun. Poor at home. Lack of quality. No matter how much endeavour or work rate opposition keeper not being tested. Striker yet again isolated. Opponents clinical. Home fans being outsung.

At home, no change. It’s on the manager.

You can’t blame fans who look forward to a fresh start and new season to feel negative when the key indicators show no change or progression even if it’s one game or twelve. Or, if some are Bulut fans and some aren’t. I’ll moan and criticise performances , players and coaches but never fellow supporters even if they disagree with me. We are all entitled to an opinion .

And for me it’s not good enough.

Onwards and upwards, I hope to be proved very wrong.

Turkish Sun and beer getting to me!

We were better than last season and the stat's suggest we were the better team.

It's very very early days too...but I didnt see a lot of urgency today from the players (bar Sio, O'Dowda and possibly Ramsey). And ultimately, Sunderland beat us fairly comfortably without actually doing a lot.

Lots of work to do for Bulut and his staff!!!

The age old cat/dog football forum tradition of the optimist and pessamist

Siopsis for brillient, he was everywhere, chased, blocked, made himself available.

willock did really well, fair play

tanner was shite and lazy, robinson could not score in the wynford, yhou cannot keep carrying players and expect results, so hopefully it's all sunshine once these two are benched or moved on

ps if i was manager colwill would be wearing a wig than that rug he;s got now

The problem with Siopis is he's great at winning the ball but he then passes it straight back to the opposition.

I cannot recall seeing a worse passer of the ball playing in midfield for us.

It doesn't matter that it's the first game of the season, the performance was the same predictable Bulut ball as last season, that's why people are, as you say, "negative".

Sunderland didn't have to come out of second gear. They did their homework on us and played it spot on.

People are entitled to be negative. We lost 0-2 at home to an average Championship team.

Yet again, we had an isolated striker. It's not rocket science - if you've got one 'striker' up top he's generally going to struggle because he's outnumbered!

The only person who doesn't see this is Bulut. Never ever thinks to change tactics - I just don't get why he persists with his one dimensional approach.

Early days yes, but maybe Rambo, Ralls and Sio should be changed or benched for some games. Notwithstanding that Sio admittedly was everywhere and put a huge effort in.

Bulut was repeatedly urging his players to attack from the touch line but they kept going backwards or sideways far too often. It was definitely more attacking today than last year and possibly will be more so when the new players have had more game time and the other 2 or 3 players bring that extra attacking play he and we are all after so patience is required.

The negativity is something that we see on here consistently regardless of the result, the style of play, the signings, the list goes on.

We knew that we wouldn't be the full team due to injuries and down to the new signings needing time.

We are ONE game in. ONE.

Regardless of what the usual suspects say, we DID play a different style of football. We WERE more attack focused.

I'm seeing L1 being said by some fans already.

Bloody ridiculous.

Totally agree , it’s one game ffs , got to give it time , atleast 2 months to see where we at , people expect too much too quick , we played well considering

It’s not ridiculous whatsoever to say L1.

After just 96 minutes, it 110% is ridiculous.

It’s not ridiculous whatsoever to say L1.

After just 96 minutes, it 110% is ridiculous.

Love how you left out the rest of my message with the explanation. Clown.

The Sunderland goalkeeper will not have an easier game this season. Had to dave one Goutas header and that was about it. As for the midfield Siopis runs around and puts a lot of effort in - but his passing is terrible. Ramsey also very rusty and should have subbed off after an hour. Vast improvement required.

It’s not ridiculous whatsoever to say L1.

After just 96 minutes, it 110% is ridiculous.

Love how you left out the rest of my message with the explanation. Clown.

Your explination wasn't worth quoting. League 1 after 1 game, you are the clown!!

You're the type who'll be gushing and screaming top 6 when we win.

Wet behind the ears.

The problem is the negativity has carried over from last season and today we saw nothing new. The CCS is once again an easy 3 points for away teams

It’s not ridiculous whatsoever to say L1.

After just 96 minutes, it 110% is ridiculous.

Love how you left out the rest of my message with the explanation. Clown.

To be honest, your explanation is picking things out that aren't really relevant.

You mention the youngest team in the championship:

Yes they are, but that doesn't mean anything. Some of the best players in the world are very young players. Age doesn't come in to it. If you're good enough you're good enough.

Jack Clarke cutting inside:

He was one of the best players in the championship last season. He's a good player who can use both feet. We have seen that. Should Ng have seen it coming, sure. But one mistake meaning we are L1? No.

Lacklustre moving forward:

Disagree. We had chances. Tanner missed a header from six yards. Ramsey had a chance which he should have done better with. Tanner another chance after Robbo fluffed it. Robbo with a chance which he miskicked. I count 4 chances right there. Or were your eyes closed there because it doesn't suit your agenda?

Back to the original point of it being ridiculous, yes it is.

Leeds were lucky against Pompey, does mean they are L1 too?

Its one game. A game we haven't even got our full strength team out at.

Does that satisfy the point that SB didn't refer to the rest of your points?

It’s not ridiculous whatsoever to say L1.

After just 96 minutes, it 110% is ridiculous.

Love how you left out the rest of my message with the explanation. Clown.

To be honest, your explanation is picking things out that aren't really relevant.

You mention the youngest team in the championship:

Yes they are, but that doesn't mean anything. Some of the best players in the world are very young players. Age doesn't come in to it. If you're good enough you're good enough.

Jack Clarke cutting inside:

He was one of the best players in the championship last season. He's a good player who can use both feet. We have seen that. Should Ng have seen it coming, sure. But one mistake meaning we are L1? No.

Lacklustre moving forward:

Disagree. We had chances. Tanner missed a header from six yards. Ramsey had a chance which he should have done better with. Tanner another chance after Robbo fluffed it. Robbo with a chance which he miskicked. I count 4 chances right there. Or were your eyes closed there because it doesn't suit your agenda?

Back to the original point of it being ridiculous, yes it is.

Leeds were lucky against Pompey, does mean they are L1 too?

Its one game. A game we haven't even got our full strength team out at.

Does that satisfy the point that SB didn't refer to the rest of your points?

When did I say lacklustre? I said toothless. Which we were, as you just pointed out because 4 chances and didn’t even look close to scoring.
4 clear cut chances, and all 4 didn’t even look like remotely scoring.

Get your facts right before calling me out. Clown.

It’s not ridiculous whatsoever to say L1.

After just 96 minutes, it 110% is ridiculous.

Love how you left out the rest of my message with the explanation. Clown.

To be honest, your explanation is picking things out that aren't really relevant.

You mention the youngest team in the championship:

Yes they are, but that doesn't mean anything. Some of the best players in the world are very young players. Age doesn't come in to it. If you're good enough you're good enough.

Jack Clarke cutting inside:

He was one of the best players in the championship last season. He's a good player who can use both feet. We have seen that. Should Ng have seen it coming, sure. But one mistake meaning we are L1? No.

Lacklustre moving forward:

Disagree. We had chances. Tanner missed a header from six yards. Ramsey had a chance which he should have done better with. Tanner another chance after Robbo fluffed it. Robbo with a chance which he miskicked. I count 4 chances right there. Or were your eyes closed there because it doesn't suit your agenda?

Back to the original point of it being ridiculous, yes it is.

Leeds were lucky against Pompey, does mean they are L1 too?

Its one game. A game we haven't even got our full strength team out at.

Does that satisfy the point that SB didn't refer to the rest of your points?

When did I say lacklustre? I said toothless. Which we were, as you just pointed out because 4 chances and didn’t even look close to scoring.
4 clear cut chances, and all 4 didn’t even look like remotely scoring.

Get your facts right before calling me out. Clown.

Basically the same thing.

Chances are chances. If we are toothless going forward then we wouldn't have made 4 chances would we?

The only clown here as SB has already said is you, pal.

It’s not ridiculous whatsoever to say L1.

After just 96 minutes, it 110% is ridiculous.

Love how you left out the rest of my message with the explanation. Clown.

To be honest, your explanation is picking things out that aren't really relevant.

You mention the youngest team in the championship:

Yes they are, but that doesn't mean anything. Some of the best players in the world are very young players. Age doesn't come in to it. If you're good enough you're good enough.

Jack Clarke cutting inside:

He was one of the best players in the championship last season. He's a good player who can use both feet. We have seen that. Should Ng have seen it coming, sure. But one mistake meaning we are L1? No.

Lacklustre moving forward:

Disagree. We had chances. Tanner missed a header from six yards. Ramsey had a chance which he should have done better with. Tanner another chance after Robbo fluffed it. Robbo with a chance which he miskicked. I count 4 chances right there. Or were your eyes closed there because it doesn't suit your agenda?

Back to the original point of it being ridiculous, yes it is.

Leeds were lucky against Pompey, does mean they are L1 too?

Its one game. A game we haven't even got our full strength team out at.

Does that satisfy the point that SB didn't refer to the rest of your points?

When did I say lacklustre? I said toothless. Which we were, as you just pointed out because 4 chances and didn’t even look close to scoring.
4 clear cut chances, and all 4 didn’t even look like remotely scoring.

Get your facts right before calling me out. Clown.

Basically the same thing.

Chances are chances. If we are toothless going forward then we wouldn't have made 4 chances would we?

The only clown here as SB has already said is you, pal.

Look up the definition of lacklustre.
“ lacking in vitality, force, uninspired or uninspiring.”

Toothless implies can’t finish your dinner, which we can’t.

Only clown here is you, pal.

It’s not ridiculous whatsoever to say L1.

After just 96 minutes, it 110% is ridiculous.

Love how you left out the rest of my message with the explanation. Clown.

To be honest, your explanation is picking things out that aren't really relevant.

You mention the youngest team in the championship:

Yes they are, but that doesn't mean anything. Some of the best players in the world are very young players. Age doesn't come in to it. If you're good enough you're good enough.

Jack Clarke cutting inside:

He was one of the best players in the championship last season. He's a good player who can use both feet. We have seen that. Should Ng have seen it coming, sure. But one mistake meaning we are L1? No.

Lacklustre moving forward:

Disagree. We had chances. Tanner missed a header from six yards. Ramsey had a chance which he should have done better with. Tanner another chance after Robbo fluffed it. Robbo with a chance which he miskicked. I count 4 chances right there. Or were your eyes closed there because it doesn't suit your agenda?

Back to the original point of it being ridiculous, yes it is.

Leeds were lucky against Pompey, does mean they are L1 too?

Its one game. A game we haven't even got our full strength team out at.

Does that satisfy the point that SB didn't refer to the rest of your points?

When did I say lacklustre? I said toothless. Which we were, as you just pointed out because 4 chances and didn’t even look close to scoring.
4 clear cut chances, and all 4 didn’t even look like remotely scoring.

Get your facts right before calling me out. Clown.

Basically the same thing.

Chances are chances. If we are toothless going forward then we wouldn't have made 4 chances would we?

The only clown here as SB has already said is you, pal.

Look up the definition of lacklustre.
“ lacking in vitality, force, uninspired or uninspiring.”

Toothless implies can’t finish your dinner, which we can’t.

Only clown here is you, pal.

Lacking in effectiveness vs lacking in conviction.

Its basically the same thing.

Either way, you mentioned nothing about the points I made about Clarke, or the point about us not having a full team out.

Or that it's the first game.

Yet you brought up to SB about missing yours?

Keep going pal, you look like a right dickhead already.

It’s not ridiculous whatsoever to say L1.

After just 96 minutes, it 110% is ridiculous.

Love how you left out the rest of my message with the explanation. Clown.

To be honest, your explanation is picking things out that aren't really relevant.

You mention the youngest team in the championship:

Yes they are, but that doesn't mean anything. Some of the best players in the world are very young players. Age doesn't come in to it. If you're good enough you're good enough.

Jack Clarke cutting inside:

He was one of the best players in the championship last season. He's a good player who can use both feet. We have seen that. Should Ng have seen it coming, sure. But one mistake meaning we are L1? No.

Lacklustre moving forward:

Disagree. We had chances. Tanner missed a header from six yards. Ramsey had a chance which he should have done better with. Tanner another chance after Robbo fluffed it. Robbo with a chance which he miskicked. I count 4 chances right there. Or were your eyes closed there because it doesn't suit your agenda?

Back to the original point of it being ridiculous, yes it is.

Leeds were lucky against Pompey, does mean they are L1 too?

Its one game. A game we haven't even got our full strength team out at.

Does that satisfy the point that SB didn't refer to the rest of your points?

When did I say lacklustre? I said toothless. Which we were, as you just pointed out because 4 chances and didn’t even look close to scoring.
4 clear cut chances, and all 4 didn’t even look like remotely scoring.

Get your facts right before calling me out. Clown.

Basically the same thing.

Chances are chances. If we are toothless going forward then we wouldn't have made 4 chances would we?

The only clown here as SB has already said is you, pal.

Look up the definition of lacklustre.
“ lacking in vitality, force, uninspired or uninspiring.”

Toothless implies can’t finish your dinner, which we can’t.

Only clown here is you, pal.

Lacking in effectiveness vs lacking in conviction.

Its basically the same thing.

Either way, you mentioned nothing about the points I made about Clarke, or the point about us not having a full team out.

Or that it's the first game.

Yet you brought up to SB about missing yours?

Keep going pal, you look like a right dickhead already.

No. I was mentioning from the start regarding the build up. The build up was good, but at the end as usual we were toothless. If you think we were unlucky, then you’re looking through rose tinted specs.

The same pattern last season.

Full team or not, that performance was dreadful.

With an out and out striker getting those chances, I think we would have scored 2 of them.

Kanga looked good when he came on so I'd like to see more of him.

My point was that we are making the chances, last season we weren't even doing that, so it's an improvement