“ Conte, Fagan-Walcott & Evans going out on loan “

EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

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How old are these players? 19 or 20? Surely Conte has something to offer in the current first team squad? Back up at least.

How old are these players? 19 or 20? Surely Conte has something to offer in the current first team squad? Back up at least.

I’m also a bit surprised about Conte. Can play in a number of positions.

Hopefully we bring in players for those positions but, if not, seems like a strange decision.

Watching Conte against bristol rovers i dont think he is good enough for championship, league 1 is his level at best in my opinion

It has to be on the basis that more players are coming in and as promising as they are, they are unlikely to play. We cannot realistically pack our team with promising players so loan them out to get experience and see if they can justify a place in the first team squad next year. If not then move them on and one or two might even justify a fee.

Evans is an interesting one. Personally I like him and so does Bulut it would appear but is concerned about his injury record from what he has said today so feels he can’t rely on him. Evans clearly wants to stay with the club and is happy to accept a one year contract in the knowledge he has to impress as he did to an extent last year. He’s not on high wages and there is always a possibility that if he was to be released he could excel elsewhere and his value rockets. Mark Harris was kept on for the same reason no doubt but time caught up with him at City and he needed to test himself elsewhere and has done rather well and would command a tidy fee.

Making space for new faces to come in ...

EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

What the hell?

We keep saying these are our Star future players?

Not one player in 14 yrs has yet to return from these loans and made it??

At least Rubin Colwill we’ve kept and has now made nearly 100 appearances for the Bluebirds.

Plus Joel Colwill needs to be with our first team Squad not playing League 2 , he’s way way above that Standard.



They are not kids, why do we keep signing these players released by their clubs and then we keep sending them out it’s not like they are 16,17 yrs old.


So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

How old are these players? 19 or 20? Surely Conte has something to offer in the current first team squad? Back up at least.

22-23 yrs old:

So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

Ned at their ages if they are not good enough for us now, No point having them back as they will only go to lower leagues and not come back any better.

The facts are their in 14 yrs not one player City has sent out on loan has ever come back and become a Championship player for us.

Tbh, I think loans are best for them. No point having them sit or in U23. Get them playing regularly and improving. All good clubs loan promising players unless they are already good enough for first team, even this is rare.

Ned at their ages if they are not good enough for us now, No point having them back as they will only go to lower leagues and not come back any better.

The facts are their in 14 yrs not one player City has sent out on loan has ever come back and become a Championship player for us.

Evans is the one I still can’t believe, why did we give him a new contract to loan him out yet again?

Tom Davies the same, he’ll probably go on loan again too.

The only reason I can see us doing that again is players coming in? What a waste of time and money it's crazy

Ned at their ages if they are not good enough for us now, No point having them back as they will only go to lower leagues and not come back any better.

The facts are their in 14 yrs not one player City has sent out on loan has ever come back and become a Championship player for us.

Evans is the one I still can’t believe, why did we give him a new contract to loan him out yet again?

Tom Davies the same, he’ll probably go on loan again too.

Ned,

It’s all either madness or clueless

Tbh, I think loans are best for them. No point having them sit or in U23. Get them playing regularly and improving. All good clubs loan promising players unless they are already good enough for first team, even this is rare.

It’s the U21’s now

What’s the point of giving them contracts at their ages to keep sending them out.

At 22-23 your either good enough or not, if not get rid.

Tbh, I think loans are best for them. No point having them sit or in U23. Get them playing regularly and improving. All good clubs loan promising players unless they are already good enough for first team, even this is rare.

It’s the U21’s now

What’s the point of giving them contracts at their ages to keep sending them out.

At 22-23 your either good enough or not, if not get rid.

I agree with Evans, didn’t really see why we kept. Conte has a great opportunity from a loan spell though, hopefully comes back a much more experienced player and improves.

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Tbh, I think loans are best for them. No point having them sit or in U23. Get them playing regularly and improving. All good clubs loan promising players unless they are already good enough for first team, even this is rare.

It’s the U21’s now

What’s the point of giving them contracts at their ages to keep sending them out.

At 22-23 your either good enough or not, if not get rid.

I agree with Evans, didn’t really see why we kept. Conte has a great opportunity from a loan spell though, hopefully comes back a much more experienced player and improves.

Let’s hope Conti goes to a League 1 Club on loan.

EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

What the hell?

We keep saying these are our Star future players?

Not one player in 14 yrs has yet to return from these loans and made it??

At least Rubin Colwill we’ve kept and has now made nearly 100 appearances for the Bluebirds.

Plus Joel Colwill needs to be with our first team Squad not playing League 2 , he’s way way above that Standard.



They are not kids, why do we keep signing these players released by their clubs and then we keep sending them out it’s not like they are 16,17 yrs old.


So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

There was one Joe Ralls but your point is correct I think Colwill will come back a better player from Cheltenham

EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

What the hell?

We keep saying these are our Star future players?

Not one player in 14 yrs has yet to return from these loans and made it??

At least Rubin Colwill we’ve kept and has now made nearly 100 appearances for the Bluebirds.

Plus Joel Colwill needs to be with our first team Squad not playing League 2 , he’s way way above that Standard.



They are not kids, why do we keep signing these players released by their clubs and then we keep sending them out it’s not like they are 16,17 yrs old.


So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

There was one Joe Ralls but your point is correct I think Colwill will come back a better player from Cheltenham

Despite people constantly saying that he did, Joe Ralls did not come from our academy.

He was signed from Farnborough after being with Aldershot earlier in his youth career.

Spent a small amount of time in our academy set up but he’s not a product of our academy.

EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

What the hell?

We keep saying these are our Star future players?

Not one player in 14 yrs has yet to return from these loans and made it??

At least Rubin Colwill we’ve kept and has now made nearly 100 appearances for the Bluebirds.

Plus Joel Colwill needs to be with our first team Squad not playing League 2 , he’s way way above that Standard.



They are not kids, why do we keep signing these players released by their clubs and then we keep sending them out it’s not like they are 16,17 yrs old.


So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

There was one Joe Ralls but your point is correct I think Colwill will come back a better player from Cheltenham

Not true Ralls was not a City Accademy product.

Name me 1 in the last 14 yrs that’s gone out on loan and returned and made it regular in the Championship?


It honestly shows we are not doing it right.






Joe Ralls:

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EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

What the hell?

We keep saying these are our Star future players?

Not one player in 14 yrs has yet to return from these loans and made it??

At least Rubin Colwill we’ve kept and has now made nearly 100 appearances for the Bluebirds.

Plus Joel Colwill needs to be with our first team Squad not playing League 2 , he’s way way above that Standard.



They are not kids, why do we keep signing these players released by their clubs and then we keep sending them out it’s not like they are 16,17 yrs old.


So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

There was one Joe Ralls but your point is correct I think Colwill will come back a better player from Cheltenham

Not true Ralls was not a City Accademy product.

Name me 1 in the last 14 yrs that’s gone out on loan and returned and made it regular in the Championship?


It honestly shows we are not doing it right.

Joe Ralls was signed into the academy 100% He was 17 when we signed him I had dinner with Malky at the professional manager association dinner which my company was sponsoring at the time He mentioned that he had two players who he thought could come out of the academy Joe and Declan John Joe may not have spent next to no time in academy but definitely trained with them and was moved up very quickly

EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

What the hell?

We keep saying these are our Star future players?

Not one player in 14 yrs has yet to return from these loans and made it??

At least Rubin Colwill we’ve kept and has now made nearly 100 appearances for the Bluebirds.

Plus Joel Colwill needs to be with our first team Squad not playing League 2 , he’s way way above that Standard.



They are not kids, why do we keep signing these players released by their clubs and then we keep sending them out it’s not like they are 16,17 yrs old.


So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

There was one Joe Ralls but your point is correct I think Colwill will come back a better player from Cheltenham

Not true Ralls was not a City Accademy product.

Name me 1 in the last 14 yrs that’s gone out on loan and returned and made it regular in the Championship?


It honestly shows we are not doing it right.

Joe Ralls was signed into the academy 100% He was 17 when we signed him I had dinner with Malky at the professional manager association dinner which my company was sponsoring at the time He mentioned that he had two players who he thought could come out of the academy Joe and Declan John Joe may not have spent next to no time in academy but definitely trained with them and was moved up very quickly

EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

What the hell?

We keep saying these are our Star future players?

Not one player in 14 yrs has yet to return from these loans and made it??

At least Rubin Colwill we’ve kept and has now made nearly 100 appearances for the Bluebirds.

Plus Joel Colwill needs to be with our first team Squad not playing League 2 , he’s way way above that Standard.



They are not kids, why do we keep signing these players released by their clubs and then we keep sending them out it’s not like they are 16,17 yrs old.


So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

There was one Joe Ralls but your point is correct I think Colwill will come back a better player from Cheltenham

Not true Ralls was not a City Accademy product.

Name me 1 in the last 14 yrs that’s gone out on loan and returned and made it regular in the Championship?


It honestly shows we are not doing it right.

Joe Ralls was signed into the academy 100% He was 17 when we signed him I had dinner with Malky at the professional manager association dinner which my company was sponsoring at the time He mentioned that he had two players who he thought could come out of the academy Joe and Declan John Joe may not have spent next to no time in academy but definitely trained with them and was moved up very quickly

He was signed for the academy from Farnborough but by no means was he a product of the academy which is what we are talking about.

Like if Reindorf makes it, we can’t say he’s a product of our academy.

Products of the academy are players like Aaron Ramsey, the Colwill brothers, Adam Matthews, Joe Ledley etc - not Joe Ralls.

EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

What the hell?

We keep saying these are our Star future players?

Not one player in 14 yrs has yet to return from these loans and made it??

At least Rubin Colwill we’ve kept and has now made nearly 100 appearances for the Bluebirds.

Plus Joel Colwill needs to be with our first team Squad not playing League 2 , he’s way way above that Standard.



They are not kids, why do we keep signing these players released by their clubs and then we keep sending them out it’s not like they are 16,17 yrs old.


So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

There was one Joe Ralls but your point is correct I think Colwill will come back a better player from Cheltenham

Not true Ralls was not a City Accademy product.

Name me 1 in the last 14 yrs that’s gone out on loan and returned and made it regular in the Championship?


It honestly shows we are not doing it right.

Joe Ralls was signed into the academy 100% He was 17 when we signed him I had dinner with Malky at the professional manager association dinner which my company was sponsoring at the time He mentioned that he had two players who he thought could come out of the academy Joe and Declan John Joe may not have spent next to no time in academy but definitely trained with them and was moved up very quickly

He was signed for the academy from Farnborough but by no means was he a product of the academy which is what we are talking about.

Like if Reindorf makes it, we can’t say he’s a product of our academy.

Products of the academy are players like Aaron Ramsey, the Colwill brothers, Adam Matthews, Joe Ledley etc - not Joe Ralls.

Exactly Ned,

But it is clutching at straws to say Joe Ralls the only player in 14 years.

Honesty is the best here, We have a problem

EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

What the hell?

We keep saying these are our Star future players?

Not one player in 14 yrs has yet to return from these loans and made it??

At least Rubin Colwill we’ve kept and has now made nearly 100 appearances for the Bluebirds.

Plus Joel Colwill needs to be with our first team Squad not playing League 2 , he’s way way above that Standard.



They are not kids, why do we keep signing these players released by their clubs and then we keep sending them out it’s not like they are 16,17 yrs old.


So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

There was one Joe Ralls but your point is correct I think Colwill will come back a better player from Cheltenham

Not true Ralls was not a City Accademy product.

Name me 1 in the last 14 yrs that’s gone out on loan and returned and made it regular in the Championship?


It honestly shows we are not doing it right.

Joe Ralls was signed into the academy 100% He was 17 when we signed him I had dinner with Malky at the professional manager association dinner which my company was sponsoring at the time He mentioned that he had two players who he thought could come out of the academy Joe and Declan John Joe may not have spent next to no time in academy but definitely trained with them and was moved up very quickly

He was signed for the academy from Farnborough but by no means was he a product of the academy which is what we are talking about.

Like if Reindorf makes it, we can’t say he’s a product of our academy.

Products of the academy are players like Aaron Ramsey, the Colwill brothers, Adam Matthews, Joe Ledley etc - not Joe Ralls.

Exactly Ned,

But it is clutching at straws to say Joe Ralls the only player in 14 years.

Honesty is the best here, We have a problem

not clutching at straws You don’t even mention the academy or even products of the academy in you post . Joe was recommended to Malky when approached who from academy could go on the bench for cup game due to injuries and international call up Neal Ardley recommended Joe So 1 he was in the academy So if you mean production academy be more precise in the post or otherwise o may not of replied Then to be belittled because of reply which is starting to become a regular event from Worcester to posters in recent months which was never the case over the years before and hope he can return to his normal replies

EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

What the hell?

We keep saying these are our Star future players?

Not one player in 14 yrs has yet to return from these loans and made it??

At least Rubin Colwill we’ve kept and has now made nearly 100 appearances for the Bluebirds.

Plus Joel Colwill needs to be with our first team Squad not playing League 2 , he’s way way above that Standard.



They are not kids, why do we keep signing these players released by their clubs and then we keep sending them out it’s not like they are 16,17 yrs old.


So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

There was one Joe Ralls but your point is correct I think Colwill will come back a better player from Cheltenham

Not true Ralls was not a City Accademy product.

Name me 1 in the last 14 yrs that’s gone out on loan and returned and made it regular in the Championship?


It honestly shows we are not doing it right.

Joe Ralls was signed into the academy 100% He was 17 when we signed him I had dinner with Malky at the professional manager association dinner which my company was sponsoring at the time He mentioned that he had two players who he thought could come out of the academy Joe and Declan John Joe may not have spent next to no time in academy but definitely trained with them and was moved up very quickly

He was signed for the academy from Farnborough but by no means was he a product of the academy which is what we are talking about.

Like if Reindorf makes it, we can’t say he’s a product of our academy.

Products of the academy are players like Aaron Ramsey, the Colwill brothers, Adam Matthews, Joe Ledley etc - not Joe Ralls.

Exactly Ned,

But it is clutching at straws to say Joe Ralls the only player in 14 years.

Honesty is the best here, We have a problem

not clutching at straws You don’t even mention the academy or even products of the academy in you post . Joe was recommended to Malky when approached who from academy could go on the bench for cup game due to injuries and international call up Neal Ardley recommended Joe So 1 he was in the academy So if you mean production academy be more precise in the post or otherwise o may not of replied Then to be belittled because of reply which is starting to become a regular event from Worcester to posters in recent months which was never the case over the years before and hope he can return to his normal replies

I’m not belittling anyone, just replying with the facts

EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

What the hell?

We keep saying these are our Star future players?

Not one player in 14 yrs has yet to return from these loans and made it??

At least Rubin Colwill we’ve kept and has now made nearly 100 appearances for the Bluebirds.

Plus Joel Colwill needs to be with our first team Squad not playing League 2 , he’s way way above that Standard.



They are not kids, why do we keep signing these players released by their clubs and then we keep sending them out it’s not like they are 16,17 yrs old.


So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

There was one Joe Ralls but your point is correct I think Colwill will come back a better player from Cheltenham

Not true Ralls was not a City Accademy product.

Name me 1 in the last 14 yrs that’s gone out on loan and returned and made it regular in the Championship?


It honestly shows we are not doing it right.

Joe Ralls was signed into the academy 100% He was 17 when we signed him I had dinner with Malky at the professional manager association dinner which my company was sponsoring at the time He mentioned that he had two players who he thought could come out of the academy Joe and Declan John Joe may not have spent next to no time in academy but definitely trained with them and was moved up very quickly

He was signed for the academy from Farnborough but by no means was he a product of the academy which is what we are talking about.

Like if Reindorf makes it, we can’t say he’s a product of our academy.

Products of the academy are players like Aaron Ramsey, the Colwill brothers, Adam Matthews, Joe Ledley etc - not Joe Ralls.

Exactly Ned,

But it is clutching at straws to say Joe Ralls the only player in 14 years.

Honesty is the best here, We have a problem

not clutching at straws You don’t even mention the academy or even products of the academy in you post . Joe was recommended to Malky when approached who from academy could go on the bench for cup game due to injuries and international call up Neal Ardley recommended Joe So 1 he was in the academy So if you mean production academy be more precise in the post or otherwise o may not of replied Then to be belittled because of reply which is starting to become a regular event from Worcester to posters in recent months which was never the case over the years before and hope he can return to his normal replies

I’m not belittling anyone, just replying with the facts

However from the original message that did not even mention the academy You decide to mention the academy My reply was to the original message. Now if you say he was not an academy product you have to define academy product because he did spend time in our academy and play in academy games. The question is why did you add academy when it was not even mentioned It mention 16 and 17 year olds Joe came to us at 17 and was loaned out to Yeovil. I was actually in agreement with Annis comments and just pointed out a 17 year old we signed came back from a successful loan a better play Just point out the facts

EROL BULUT:


"I am thinking Raheem [Conte] should need a loan, Malachi Fagan-Walcott needs also a loan to come back much stronger.

Also Kieron Evans, I would like to have him play continuously and without injuries for one season. And other youngsters we will see we will make a decision about that."

What the hell?

We keep saying these are our Star future players?

Not one player in 14 yrs has yet to return from these loans and made it??

At least Rubin Colwill we’ve kept and has now made nearly 100 appearances for the Bluebirds.

Plus Joel Colwill needs to be with our first team Squad not playing League 2 , he’s way way above that Standard.



They are not kids, why do we keep signing these players released by their clubs and then we keep sending them out it’s not like they are 16,17 yrs old.


So as I said last month it was already planned to send Kieron Evans out again 23 yrs old in a couple of months, not a youngster and only ever played against virtually NON-LEAGUE CLUBS????
Why bother with another yrs contract?

Raheem Conti nearly 22 yrs old and another player who is either good enough or not. Way better than Evans.
Conti got released from his last club QPR not making one appearance,we took him on last season and hardly gave him a chance?

He’s either good enough or not?


Malachi Michael Fagan-Walcott aged 22 was released last season, we sign him send as a free agent and sent him out to Dunfermline and now out again?

There was one Joe Ralls but your point is correct I think Colwill will come back a better player from Cheltenham

Not true Ralls was not a City Accademy product.

Name me 1 in the last 14 yrs that’s gone out on loan and returned and made it regular in the Championship?


It honestly shows we are not doing it right.

Joe Ralls was signed into the academy 100% He was 17 when we signed him I had dinner with Malky at the professional manager association dinner which my company was sponsoring at the time He mentioned that he had two players who he thought could come out of the academy Joe and Declan John Joe may not have spent next to no time in academy but definitely trained with them and was moved up very quickly

He was signed for the academy from Farnborough but by no means was he a product of the academy which is what we are talking about.

Like if Reindorf makes it, we can’t say he’s a product of our academy.

Products of the academy are players like Aaron Ramsey, the Colwill brothers, Adam Matthews, Joe Ledley etc - not Joe Ralls.

Exactly Ned,

But it is clutching at straws to say Joe Ralls the only player in 14 years.

Honesty is the best here, We have a problem

not clutching at straws You don’t even mention the academy or even products of the academy in you post . Joe was recommended to Malky when approached who from academy could go on the bench for cup game due to injuries and international call up Neal Ardley recommended Joe So 1 he was in the academy So if you mean production academy be more precise in the post or otherwise o may not of replied Then to be belittled because of reply which is starting to become a regular event from Worcester to posters in recent months which was never the case over the years before and hope he can return to his normal replies

Ok what’s the facts?

How many of Our own Academy players in the last 14 years have gone out on loan and come back and become a regular Championship player with Cardiff City?


How many of Our own Academy players in the last 14 years have become a regular Championship player with is?


As to Ned, Worcester he is a very very honest poster and sticks by his own morals.

Annis you ask for facts
- You did not mention academy players in your original post Fact
- Worcester was the first too mention academy product after replied to your post Fact
- Joe joined our academy and signed by Neil Ardley Fact He may not have been there long but he was in academy all Facts
- Joe went on loan in last 14 years fact
- We signed Joe from another club Fact
- Joe can be deemed a success Fact

I was agreeing with the vast majority of you original post which never mentioned academy yet again now you are changing it to ask academy players My reply was pointing out based on your original post Joe Ralls meet the criteria you put out if you had said last 12 years then no reply would have come to you post I genuinely thought you forgot about Joe and nothing more
I at no point have questions Worcester honesty so please explain why that is mentioned I did say he recently has been belittling many posters views and people have mentioned that in other posts . That certainly not been his way in the past and always liked his posts
Also can someone tell me how long you must be in the academy to be deemed an academy product From age 8 etc

Annis you ask for facts
- You did not mention academy players in your original post Fact
- Worcester was the first too mention academy product after replied to your post Fact
- Joe joined our academy and signed by Neil Ardley Fact He may not have been there long but he was in academy all Facts
- Joe went on loan in last 14 years fact
- We signed Joe from another club Fact
- Joe can be deemed a success Fact

I was agreeing with the vast majority of you original post which never mentioned academy yet again now you are changing it to ask academy players My reply was pointing out based on your original post Joe Ralls meet the criteria you put out if you had said last 12 years then no reply would have come to you post I genuinely thought you forgot about Joe and nothing more
I at no point have questions Worcester honesty so please explain why that is mentioned I did say he recently has been belittling many posters views and people have mentioned that in other posts . That certainly not been his way in the past and always liked his posts
Also can someone tell me how long you must be in the academy to be deemed an academy product From age 8 etc

Ok we agree Ralls came through other Academies first then joined ours, later at the age of 17 years old.


But can you answer these 2 questions please?


How many of Our own Academy players in the last 14 years have gone out on loan and come back and become a regular Championship player with Cardiff City?


How many of Our own Academy players in the last 14 years have become a regular Championship player with is?

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