“ Second half unforgivable “

I’m sorry Erol Bulut but that second half was a complete disgrace.

We just rolled over after they got the third.

It was like the players just accepted the late goals.

Look we played well first half and didn’t deserve to be 2-0 down.

But the way we finished the game was unforgivable in my view.

Very long journey home ahead.

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Feel sorry for our fans that made the long trip

Many renditions of "Erol Bulut - we want you to stay" from the City faithful this afternoon?

Well done to all the fans who made the effort to make today's game.

If only the team could show a fraction of that commitment

Nothing has changed. You said that about the first half against Rovers. Rotherham feels like it was a couple of weeks ago. I got slated at times last season for critical comments of his one tactic, and how boring and predictable it was, more worryingly how there was no other alternative or plan B , it worried me very early doors past season. I was dead against him re signing with us. It’s so early in the season . He is incapable of change. I guess he doesn’t see a problem having an isolated striker. I hate this.

I'm in work today so only really got score updates on phone and flicking through message boards. Alot of hate and negativity as expected but would like to point out that this is the same Burnley team which took Luton apart 4-1 last week so they were always going to be a difficult side. Yes 5-0 is horrendous but most people were predicting a battering before a ball was kicked so where is the surprise? It sounds like from reading Cardiff were holding their own and doing well for large portions of the game and were it not for 2 dodgy decisions by players gifting 2 goals and Meite hitting the post, Kanga being ruled offside and O'Dowda heading what sounds like an easy ish chance wide then the game could of been very different. As someone said on another thread it's all about fine margins in football and another day it could of been a draw or better. Perhaps we need to trust the process hope that these other new guys sign up and then judge when Bulut has his whole squad he's chosen at his disposal.

[quote="Jestrix"]I'm in work today so only really got score updates on phone and flicking through message boards. Alot of hate and negativity as expected but would like to point out that this is the same Burnley team which took Luton apart 4-1 last week so they were always going to be a difficult side. Yes 5-0 is horrendous but most people were predicting a battering before a ball was kicked so where is the surprise? It sounds like from reading Cardiff were holding their own and doing well for large portions of the game and were it not for 2 dodgy decisions by players gifting 2 goals and Meite hitting the post, Kanga being ruled offside and O'Dowda heading what sounds like an easy ish chance wide then the game could of been very different. As someone said on another thread it's all about fine margins in football and another day it could of been a draw or better. Perhaps we need to trust the process hope that these other new guys sign up and then judge when Bulut has his whole squad he's chosen at his disposal.[/quote

Yes and if only the opposition hadn't scored five goals from four shots we would have had a point.

And if my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle.

Fine margins as you say.

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I’m sorry Erol Bulut but that second half was a complete disgrace.

We just rolled over after they got the third.

It was like the players just accepted the late goals.

Look we played well first half and didn’t deserve to be 2-0 down.

But the way we finished the game was unforgivable in my view.

Very long journey home ahead.

Is your opinion of Bulut's ability beginning to change?

I don't know if you've deliberately missed the point or just upset and angry about the loss. Just trying to inject a shade of common sense amongst the topic

I'm in work today so only really got score updates on phone and flicking through message boards. Alot of hate and negativity as expected but would like to point out that this is the same Burnley team which took Luton apart 4-1 last week so they were always going to be a difficult side. Yes 5-0 is horrendous but most people were predicting a battering before a ball was kicked so where is the surprise? It sounds like from reading Cardiff were holding their own and doing well for large portions of the game and were it not for 2 dodgy decisions by players gifting 2 goals and Meite hitting the post, Kanga being ruled offside and O'Dowda heading what sounds like an easy ish chance wide then the game could of been very different. As someone said on another thread it's all about fine margins in football and another day it could have been a draw or better. Perhaps we need to trust the process hope that these other new guys sign up and then judge when Bulut has his whole squad he's chosen at his disposal.

I think you’re right. Plus the awful freak own goal.

I don't know if you've deliberately missed the point or just upset and angry about the loss. Just trying to inject a shade of common sense amongst the topic

What you said is true and 5 nil is not a reflection of the game overall ..... we were not slow laborious not even in 2nd half two of the worst mistakes cost us not the way we played? Despite the result there was signs he is playing more forward game today except didn't have the finishing a good striker would have had... most looking at score but more to a game than the score even though its most important stat..

I don't know if you've deliberately missed the point or just upset and angry about the loss. Just trying to inject a shade of common sense amongst the topic

Sorry I don't get "the point" . You say that nobody should be surprised that we lost to a team that beat Luton 4-1 yet also say that on another day we could have won because of the chances we missed and the individual mistakes we made.

We also could have beaten Sunderland last Saturday if we'd taken our chances and not made mistakes. History will be littered with relegated teams who could have survived if only they had taken their chances and not made so many mistakes.

I admire your positivity but let's be honest the end of last season and the start of this have been a total shitshow presided over by a manager who clearly has no idea what is needed to manage in the Championship.

I don't know if you've deliberately missed the point or just upset and angry about the loss. Just trying to inject a shade of common sense amongst the topic

What you said is true and 5 nil is not a reflection of the game overall ..... we were not slow laborious not even in 2nd half two of the worst mistakes cost us not the way we played? Despite the result there was signs he is playing more forward game today except didn't have the finishing a good striker would have had... most looking at score but more to a game than the score even though its most important stat..

Unfortunately at the end of every game the score is the ONLY thing that really matters.

I don't know if you've deliberately missed the point or just upset and angry about the loss. Just trying to inject a shade of common sense amongst the topic

What you said is true and 5 nil is not a reflection of the game overall ..... we were not slow laborious not even in 2nd half two of the worst mistakes cost us not the way we played? Despite the result there was signs he is playing more forward game today except didn't have the finishing a good striker would have had... most looking at score but more to a game than the score even though its most important stat..

Unfortunately at the end of every game the score is the ONLY thing that really matters.

It is even if dont reflect on way team played .

I’m sorry Erol Bulut but that second half was a complete disgrace.

We just rolled over after they got the third.

It was like the players just accepted the late goals.

Look we played well first half and didn’t deserve to be 2-0 down.

But the way we finished the game was unforgivable in my view.

Very long journey home ahead.

Is your opinion of Bulut's ability beginning to change?

Well I don’t think he should be sacked, not at this point. Don’t think he will be either.

But I had hoped he would have learned from last season.

Today showed he hasn’t.

At 3-0 the game was done and we should have gone into damage limitation. Instead we left massive gaps which led to Brownhill having the freedom of Burnley for his goal. No pressure on their players for the two late long distance goals as well.

I’m definitely a lot more concerned than I was a week ago.

I’m sorry Erol Bulut but that second half was a complete disgrace.

We just rolled over after they got the third.

It was like the players just accepted the late goals.

Look we played well first half and didn’t deserve to be 2-0 down.

But the way we finished the game was unforgivable in my view.

Very long journey home ahead.

Is your opinion of Bulut's ability beginning to change?

Well I don’t think he should be sacked, not at this point. Don’t think he will be either.

But I had hoped he would have learned from last season.

Today showed he hasn’t.

At 3-0 the game was done and we should have gone into damage limitation. Instead we left massive gaps which led to Brownhill having the freedom of Burnley for his goal. No pressure on their players for the two late long distance goals as well.

I’m definitely a lot more concerned than I was a week ago.

I actually agree with you that I don't think he should be sacked but I honestly can't see where the first points are going to come from.

Now it is of course possible ( though unlikely!) that we may win at Swansea next week and everything will look more positive but I think that a loss next week followed by another at home to Boro and he'll be in serious trouble.

Unless we've got at least six points from our first six games ( in reality two wins from the next four games) I just can't see how we can afford not to sack him.

I’m sorry Erol Bulut but that second half was a complete disgrace.

We just rolled over after they got the third.

It was like the players just accepted the late goals.

Look we played well first half and didn’t deserve to be 2-0 down.

But the way we finished the game was unforgivable in my view.

Very long journey home ahead.

Is your opinion of Bulut's ability beginning to change?

Well I don’t think he should be sacked, not at this point. Don’t think he will be either.

But I had hoped he would have learned from last season.

Today showed he hasn’t.

At 3-0 the game was done and we should have gone into damage limitation. Instead we left massive gaps which led to Brownhill having the freedom of Burnley for his goal. No pressure on their players for the two late long distance goals as well.

I’m definitely a lot more concerned than I was a week ago.

I actually agree with you that I don't think he should be sacked but I honestly can't see where the first points are going to come from.

Now it is of course possible ( though unlikely!) that we may win at Swansea next week and everything will look more positive but I think that a loss next week followed by another at home to Boro and he'll be in serious trouble.

Unless we've got at least six points from our first six games ( in reality two wins from the next four games) I just can't see how we can afford not to sack him.

Can’t really argue with any of that.

Hate to say it but if we lose next week then it will become very difficult for him to turn things around.

Apologies reading back at my post perhaps what I meant was lost in translation so to speak.

I was trying to say that alot of people had written us off for today before a ball was kicked so it was a free hit. Burnley had just beaten Luton 4-1 impressively and are largely tipped to go back up to the Prem so losing was likely on the cards regardless.

My point was supposed to be that by the sounds of it (first half at least) we were positive and giving as good as we got and perhaps if those 2 mistakes weren't made then the game could of been very different as confidence would grow as the game went on etc. And maybe those misses wouldn't of been misses because I imagine maybe it's easier to fluff your chances when your chasing the game etc so those fine margins can make all the difference.

Fingers crossed we rip up the playbook against Swansea and throw Robertson and perhaps Reinhof (I'm sure that's spelt wrong) in and just go at Swansea with some youth looking to take their chances. Perhaps 2 up top with Kanga and Reinhof would be an interesting partnership which would be unpredictable

I’m sorry Erol Bulut but that second half was a complete disgrace.

We just rolled over after they got the third.

It was like the players just accepted the late goals.

Look we played well first half and didn’t deserve to be 2-0 down.

But the way we finished the game was unforgivable in my view.

Very long journey home ahead.

Is your opinion of Bulut's ability beginning to change?

Well I don’t think he should be sacked, not at this point. Don’t think he will be either.

But I had hoped he would have learned from last season.

Today showed he hasn’t.

At 3-0 the game was done and we should have gone into damage limitation. Instead we left massive gaps which led to Brownhill having the freedom of Burnley for his goal. No pressure on their players for the two late long distance goals as well.

I’m definitely a lot more concerned than I was a week ago.

I actually agree with you that I don't think he should be sacked but I honestly can't see where the first points are going to come from.

Now it is of course possible ( though unlikely!) that we may win at Swansea next week and everything will look more positive but I think that a loss next week followed by another at home to Boro and he'll be in serious trouble.

Unless we've got at least six points from our first six games ( in reality two wins from the next four games) I just can't see how we can afford not to sack him.

Can’t really argue with any of that.

Hate to say it but if we lose next week then it will become very difficult for him to turn things around.

I agree with you 100%. It's sad to think because I think Bulet maybe one of the better managers we've been able to get so hopefully with a few extra bodies in and El Ghazi on the wing maybe they'll be real difference makers.

I’m sorry Erol Bulut but that second half was a complete disgrace.

We just rolled over after they got the third.

It was like the players just accepted the late goals.

Look we played well first half and didn’t deserve to be 2-0 down.

But the way we finished the game was unforgivable in my view.

Very long journey home ahead.

Is your opinion of Bulut's ability beginning to change?

Well I don’t think he should be sacked, not at this point. Don’t think he will be either.

But I had hoped he would have learned from last season.

Today showed he hasn’t.

At 3-0 the game was done and we should have gone into damage limitation. Instead we left massive gaps which led to Brownhill having the freedom of Burnley for his goal. No pressure on their players for the two late long distance goals as well.

I’m definitely a lot more concerned than I was a week ago.

A leopard never changes his spots. Eddie Newton's summary of the manager was spot on. He'll only play one way, the Turkish
way. We are in for an extremely long hard season, on the evidence of yesterday. Team selection and tactics, especially 2nd half were awful.
P.S. Where are our youngsters? Why won't the manager play them?