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Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:53 pm
Ramsey‘s contract expires in the summer, although the club do have an option for a further year.
He has been saying today he wants to keep playing until at least the 2026 World Cup so has no plans to retire.
What should the club do?
He gets paid a lot of money. Last season he was injured for months and he hasn’t made a good start to this season.
Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:05 pm
Extend it as long as possible, get him to do his coaching badges while he's here. Future player manager or just manager & knows the club inside out, could also help immensely with the younger players.
Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:10 pm
Too early to make a decision on his contract. Fingers crossed he stays fit and finds some form.
Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:43 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:Extend it as long as possible, get him to do his coaching badges while he's here. Future player manager or just manager & knows the club inside out, could also help immensely with the younger players.
With you this mate.
Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:12 pm
A lot of money to waste on an injured player. Even more to waste on a player that is playing and not delivering
Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:14 pm
For example, I’m not sold on Turnbull but he deserves a chance ahead of Rambo at the moment and I’ve been crystal clear with the Colwill situation
Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:17 pm
Keep him with us, as long as he agrees to potentially be a bit part player, if we put him through his badges.
Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:21 pm
Roath_Blue wrote:Keep him with us, as long as he agrees to potentially be a bit part player, if we put him through his badges.
Agree
Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:23 pm
I think his touch will come back, but will need to adapt his game. Lets see where we are at the end of the season
Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:56 pm
Stuck in the 70;s wrote:Too early to make a decision on his contract. Fingers crossed he stays fit and finds some form.
Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:52 am
Surprised there’s more positive comments than not. I think the rose tinted glasses are playing a part. It’ll be interesting to see what he does for Wales in a different system.
Fri Sep 06, 2024 6:47 am
He hasn't really performed (due to alot of injuries) since Juventus. Including for Wales. I feel he should have retired the same time as Bale regards international football.
This feels like treason, but are we flogging a dead horse?
Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:06 am
He has turnd out not value for money.
In a normaljob no one would get an extension of their contract under similar circumstances. He has a lot of work to do and a lot of luck to come his way to justify this extension.
Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:49 am
For me he slows our midfield down , he is getting caught out by nippier midfielders, he's easy to close down ,shows very little going forward .
My worries if he continues the influence he does have over the younger and squad players will diminish very quickly .
The lad should retire and concentrate on coaching .
Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:14 am
Very difficult one this.
On one hand hes very experienced and on his day, can produce a rabbit out of the hat moment to win games. On the other hand, hes beginning to slowdown and can dissappear in games.
With him wanting to play in the world cup, he will want to be playing but that will be at the expense of a youngster such as rubin colwill who needs yo be playing week in week out. If it was me i would not offer him a new contract but tough either way.
Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:25 am
Just retire and free up the money for a few other players I say. Never wanted him here to start with due to past injury records. We got faster players who don't have his mind set which he has still got but is on his last legs it now in my opinion.
Although he can win a game with one kick at times nobody else could in the team. These days it's not enough as he's struggling to run, pass and keep the ball in my opinion. You could also say that's down to our same shitty one up top formation set up but your only as good as the players around you on game day and how the manager sets them up with instructions going forward and defending. which alot of people seem to forget on here.
Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:41 pm
Can't believe the negativity towards Ramsey in this thread.
Yes he's had a lot of injury problems and he's certainly not been great so far this season but he's far from the only one and he's often looked like he's trying to do too much because of the incompetence of those around him.
We have nobody else in the squad who can do the things that Ramsey can do - not even Rubin Colwill.
Bulut doesn't know how to get the best out of Ramsey because Ramsey is not a defensive midfielder. I'm sure a different manager would be able to get far more from him than the current manager.
Fri Sep 06, 2024 1:20 pm
davids wrote:Can't believe the negativity towards Ramsey in this thread.
Yes he's had a lot of injury problems and he's certainly not been great so far this season but he's far from the only one and he's often looked like he's trying to do too much because of the incompetence of those around him.
We have nobody else in the squad who can do the things that Ramsey can do - not even Rubin Colwill.
Bulut doesn't know how to get the best out of Ramsey because Ramsey is not a defensive midfielder. I'm sure a different manager would be able to get far more from him than the current manager.
Let's see what bellers does with him as page played him defensive no 6 and stiffled his ability.
Fri Sep 06, 2024 1:27 pm
davids wrote:Can't believe the negativity towards Ramsey in this thread.
Yes he's had a lot of injury problems and he's certainly not been great so far this season but he's far from the only one and he's often looked like he's trying to do too much because of the incompetence of those around him.
We have nobody else in the squad who can do the things that Ramsey can do - not even Rubin Colwill.
Bulut doesn't know how to get the best out of Ramsey because Ramsey is not a defensive midfielder. I'm sure a different manager would be able to get far more from him than the current manager.
Sadly, Rambo an easy target whilst the season starts with poor results…
He cad a good season before he came to us but after a season effectively out of play here, his form is still improving and he will benefit team more and more…
Leave contract talks until later in the season but get him on board with coaching as soon as possible; it’s too good an opportunity to miss…
Fri Sep 06, 2024 2:05 pm
Sven wrote:davids wrote:Can't believe the negativity towards Ramsey in this thread.
Yes he's had a lot of injury problems and he's certainly not been great so far this season but he's far from the only one and he's often looked like he's trying to do too much because of the incompetence of those around him.
We have nobody else in the squad who can do the things that Ramsey can do - not even Rubin Colwill.
Bulut doesn't know how to get the best out of Ramsey because Ramsey is not a defensive midfielder. I'm sure a different manager would be able to get far more from him than the current manager.
Sadly, Rambo an easy target whilst the season starts with poor results…
He cad a good season before he came to us but after a season effectively out of play here, his form is still improving and he will benefit team more and more…
Leave contract talks until later in the season but get him on board with coaching as soon as possible; it’s too good an opportunity to miss…
Whats the saying chris? Form is temporary class is permanent! That's rambo
Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:27 pm
davids wrote:Can't believe the negativity towards Ramsey in this thread.
Yes he's had a lot of injury problems and he's certainly not been great so far this season but he's far from the only one and he's often looked like he's trying to do too much because of the incompetence of those around him.
We have nobody else in the squad who can do the things that Ramsey can do - not even Rubin Colwill.
Bulut doesn't know how to get the best out of Ramsey because Ramsey is not a defensive midfielder. I'm sure a different manager would be able to get far more from him than the current manager.
I base my opinions on fact.
Fact one - he’s a future Welsh hall of famer
Fact two - he’s getting paid a hell of a lot of money and has either been injured or underperformed.
Just because he’s Aaron Ramsey doesn’t make him immune to criticism
Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:38 pm
Underhill1927 wrote:davids wrote:Can't believe the negativity towards Ramsey in this thread.
Yes he's had a lot of injury problems and he's certainly not been great so far this season but he's far from the only one and he's often looked like he's trying to do too much because of the incompetence of those around him.
We have nobody else in the squad who can do the things that Ramsey can do - not even Rubin Colwill.
Bulut doesn't know how to get the best out of Ramsey because Ramsey is not a defensive midfielder. I'm sure a different manager would be able to get far more from him than the current manager.
I base my opinions on fact.
Fact one - he’s a future Welsh hall of famer
Fact two - he’s getting paid a hell of a lot of money and has either been injured or underperformed.
Just because he’s Aaron Ramsey doesn’t make him immune to criticism
Well fact two applies to just about the whole team so we go back to fact one & that's what we should be looking at for now. He's not here for the money, he loves the club & most likely could have gone elsewhere for a lot more money but that's not what is most important to him at this point in his career, playing for Cardiff City & Wales is.
He's certainly not immune to criticism though.
Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:53 pm
I have not been impressed with Ramsey in pre season or since the league started - in spite of some flashes of genius. If he does the latter but can't perform consistently well then he could be a liability depending how well Bulut deals with the situation. But at this point we simply don't know how Ramsey will perform this season - it's too early to judge. He had an injury last season which must have been devastating for him and he's had one or two scares since the season started. In a month (or whatever) we may be in a better position to judge.
Fri Sep 06, 2024 6:45 pm
Borders Blue wrote:I have not been impressed with Ramsey in pre season or since the league started - in spite of some flashes of genius. If he does the latter but can't perform consistently well then he could be a liability depending how well Bulut deals with the situation. But at this point we simply don't know how Ramsey will perform this season - it's too early to judge. He had an injury last season which must have been devastating for him and he's had one or two scares since the season started. In a month (or whatever) we may be in a better position to judge.
We say ‘judge the team after 12 games’, so why not returning (from injury) players?
Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:34 pm
Anyone doubting Ramsey’s ability needs to watch the Wales game tonight. He was excellent and looked sharp and fit.
Bellamy was intelligent enough to create a system for Ramsey to excel in. If Bulut had the same intelligence Ramsey would stroll through the Championship.
Some players are good enough to base a system around them. Ramsey is still one of those and if we don’t recognise that we are missing a huge opportunity.
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