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Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:09 am
Great to hear Troy Deeney on TalkSport this morning saying how much of a massive club we were and how he’d love to see us back in the Premier League.
Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:54 am
Blueit wrote:Great to hear Troy Deeney on TalkSport this morning saying how much of a massive club we are and how he’d love to see us back in the Premier League.
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:28 pm
we are a big club, but we are getting run into the ground by the owner.
our fans are showing up less and less its sad to see!
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:38 pm
I'd say we're not , 35k ish if we lucky.
We used to be when it was a working man's sport young kids would support and afford the City in numbers , now they have the lure of being sofa fans of bigger clubs and not follow or afford too or go to watch .
I'd say modern football FFP and it's commercial drive are the issues , the top are the top and you can't break through any longer , in my opinion its not the owners, its football in general .
At least our owner has been loyal for some time , with two promotions, two cup finals , not bad for a championship side with a potential 35k crowd pull?
The only way we could become bigger ,not massive as that's for the Celtics of this world's is for some rich Saudi to step in , however would they stay though or would it be a boom and bust era , seeing us finished and bankrupt.
I'm waiting to see Newcastle's eventual outcome will be .
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:56 pm
All we need to do is to have a consistent stay in the PL.
We averaged ~31.5k in our last season, a few years of consistently being there and the question of “but who’s your premier league team?” will be gone.
Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:27 pm
New Day Rising wrote:I'd say we're not , 35k ish if we lucky.
We sold out every week in the PL, both times. We had the 10th highest attendances in the country. The potential is obviously there as our catchment area is huge. I don’t think any other club in Britain has more people as their closest club than us.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:09 am
It is a generational thing. Support builds over time. In ninian park in the final days a crowd of 12k and it would be bouncing. We get between 18k and 22k, a lot of that support was built with our Wembley visits and brief visits to the Prem.
Get in the Prem and stay there for ten years... Not easy that... You end up with youngsters coming and loving it, they get hooked and the support builds.
I truly believe that if we had a top half of Prem team for ten years we would regularly get crowds in the region of 40 to 50k (expanded stadium). Get in to Europe and....
Now these are big expensive ambitions, but that is the potential imo.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:09 am
Being a 'big club' and attendances are not directionally proportional.
Bournemouth are pretty much an established premier league club, averaging 11k, and Bradford are pretty much an established L2 club, averaging 17k (which is the same as Champions League Villareal).
We averaged more than all of the above for the past 10 seasons (excluding covid).
Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:14 am
M4 Exile wrote:All we need to do is to have a consistent stay in the PL.
We averaged ~31.5k in our last season, a few years of consistently being there and the question of “but who’s your premier league team?” will be gone.
Not convinced we would. Apathy would set in and crowds would stagnate.
We sold out for all the bigger games but we definitely had spare tickets for the smaller PL games.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:52 pm
Maccydear wrote:M4 Exile wrote:All we need to do is to have a consistent stay in the PL.
We averaged ~31.5k in our last season, a few years of consistently being there and the question of “but who’s your premier league team?” will be gone.
Not convinced we would. Apathy would set in and crowds would stagnate.
We sold out for all the bigger games but we definitely had spare tickets for the smaller PL games.
Only 2 games in the 2018-2019 season had less than 30k. 29,681 against Fulham and 29,402 against Brighton.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:03 pm
Maccydear wrote:M4 Exile wrote:All we need to do is to have a consistent stay in the PL.
We averaged ~31.5k in our last season, a few years of consistently being there and the question of “but who’s your premier league team?” will be gone.
Not convinced we would. Apathy would set in and crowds would stagnate.
We sold out for all the bigger games but we definitely had spare tickets for the smaller PL games.
I agree with you about apathy. As soon as the appeal of facing e.g. Liverpool and Man Utd on a regular basis starts to fade, our crowds would start to slowly diminish. The people in this area just don't have the appetite for football that other places in the UK have. No amount of hand-wringing or shaming by some on here is likely to change that.
Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:06 pm
SB 1927 wrote:Maccydear wrote:M4 Exile wrote:All we need to do is to have a consistent stay in the PL.
We averaged ~31.5k in our last season, a few years of consistently being there and the question of “but who’s your premier league team?” will be gone.
Not convinced we would. Apathy would set in and crowds would stagnate.
We sold out for all the bigger games but we definitely had spare tickets for the smaller PL games.
Only 2 games in the 2018-2019 season had less than 30k. 29,681 against Fulham and 29,402 against Brighton.
With a capacity of 33k sorta proving my point if that’s what you are trying to do?
Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:17 pm
I don't believe we are a massive club.
When I hear massive club, I think UTD, Liverpool, Forest and soon to be Man City.
We have the foundations to be a massive club, but we aren't in the same stature as the clubs above.
We sold out in the prem due to the amount of plastics in South Wales. 10k of which haven't bothered since.
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