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Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:00 am
I can't help but feel if we loose our next two games he's gone?
I for one would rather just back him untill 10 games to see where we are!
But I'm also seeing alot who is just fed up of his stubborn starting 11 and no plan b
I liked our first two games but was left scratching my head, wandering how tf we lost especially to Sunderland.
It's to the point now that we are just hoping for mid table. And not a relegation fight
I for one have always said our club should be looking at top 6 every season, but the constant hiring and firing poor managers. Over inflated wages to poor players, has backed us into a corner.
I just don't see how things will change from the top to the bottom!
Will it always be now that we just scrape for scraps at the bottom of the transfer list and just hope we get top 6 with a miracle?
I've made it well clear that I don't want the board to stay anymore unless they actually back the club to push where we need to be!
This whole crap about he's keeping the club afloat etc, it's his fault we are run that way! If it wasn't for warnocks miracle season, I think more would of wanted tan out by now.
There just isn't an incentive for young fans to come to the games anymore really, the numbers at the ground had just dwindled I can't see it changing any time soon either!
Awell I guess that's the beauty about supporting our beloved bluebirds!
Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:34 am
I fear 10 games is too many if we're:
A) Still not winning
B) Still not competing
C) Not changing anything to try and achieve A &/or B
2 more soul-less defeats and to me, he HAS to go.
(I was Bulut IN until recently, also).
Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:47 am
If he doesn't stop his defensive tactics, keeping our more attacking players on the bench and when they are on, trying to get them to focus on defending over attacking, then he needs to go ASAP.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:26 am
This will sound mad, but I'd sack him if he even won both games !! We will at best stand still with this guy.
The game is changing, whether that is a direct result in FiFa, Eufa or the FA but its being ref'd differently to 10 years ago. The domestic Italian or Mourinho gameplan that strangled games to death by boredom has been replaced with an attacking model. All major sports are trying to get scores on the board to increase entertainment value.
You have to intercept or standing block tackles any sign of physical aggression is stamped on. I often see on here we need a midfield general and enforcer that position now is noe defunct. There aren't any at the top level, even centre halves are more players than stoppers nowadays.
Bulut isn't Warnock or even Malky, but this super slow possession-based game is boring, we never commit and it's the same Malky plan (4231 rather than 4141) of keeping it super tight and allowing the best player in the championship to deliver a set play that you can't defend.
I don't think Malky even with that squad would have got promoted under today's tactics and refereeing.
Turkeys manager, Vincenzo Montella is an Italian League disciple, who he played and managed his entire career apart from a few games for Fulham on loan. Were there any dissimilarities between Turkey and Cardiff City, not many. It is not surprising, that Italy is the closest big football nation close to Turkey and Greece. I just don't think that football is wanted by the TV companies and the money that involved the football authorities will slowly change the game to suit.
I hoped we were getting a German Gegenpress manager, we got the Mourhino park the bus philosophy and he can't change. Even though football has.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:29 am
I think he goes after Derby, if the result is a shocker.
who would come in, the below will no doubt throw their names into the mix to be manager.
Lampard
Allardyce
Chris Hughton
Rob Page
Michael Beale
Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:36 am
Natham jones you been gone to long for me but he is at charlton so snookered there.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:57 am
Can't understand how he had a contract..since last Christmas he has ripped the spirit out of our players with his negativity and continued griping..hate going to see them at the moment..just plain boring match day experience.. Bellamy...now that would have been at least exciting...
Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:04 am
Sowerby_CCFC wrote:I think he goes after Derby, if the result is a shocker.
who would come in, the below will no doubt throw their names into the mix to be manager.
Lampard
Allardyce
Chris Hughton
Rob Page
Michael Beale
There are "normal" football people at all clubs on goodish normal wages whose job it is to analyze coaches and clubs to see where the next head coach should come from, our problem they should be working for the DoF, but we don't have one.
We have a head of recruitment, surely its his job to advise Dalman (who is the closest to wearing the DoF hat) on the market as the manager was very unlikely to last one way or another.
On a skill point, we have an average squad, you don't need a Harris or Mad Mick to follow on from a Warnock squad. They are still slow but we could change that in a single window.
Lot of yesterday's men or never were names on that list, There's only Beale, but his reputation has been blighted by the Ranger results and the Sunderland fall out. I am sure there are loads out there better suited to the demands of the modern-day championship
Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:13 am
Sowerby_CCFC wrote:I think he goes after Derby, if the result is a shocker.
who would come in, the below will no doubt throw their names into the mix to be manager.
Lampard
Allardyce
Chris Hughton
Rob Page
Michael Beale
Please no! What a horrible "insert generic list of available managers here".
It hurts me to say, but pop west down the M4 and ask them their strategy for manager recruitment. Theirs seem to end up being poached from by the prem and not either ex-prem dinosaurs or end up in Hornchurch Athletic or whoever they were?
Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:43 am
We'll be stuck with Bulut for at least 10 games I think. Tan will leave it for as long as he can b4 he considers getting rid. We'll probably be quite adrift at that point so we've gotta get the next appointment right.
I just don't know who to turn too.
I've always liked Alex Neil, his sides play good football but they fight and scrap aswell. Maybe Nathan Jones is the man??? He'll certainly simplify things (which is defo what his needed). I think he'd get them more fired up and motivated too.
I'm just getting so fed up of hearing Bulut speak. I don't hate the guy, far from it, but he's just a bit of an imposter in this sport me thinks!!!
Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:27 pm
Predictable, stubborn, boring, unaccountable. Slow, lack of goals and working the keeper. Failure to fix long term problems his system creates. The thought of another couple of months of this repetitive cycle destroys my soul. It will become toxic, atmosphere will get worse, crowds home and away will dwindle. The comedy of saying after four games we are going to change things! That’s what the pre season was for. It’s to late. He is incapable of changing that formation, his obsession with two CDMs and don’t start me on the isolated striker. We can do so much better , we deserve it. I have never liked his football or the excuses that dominate his interviews. A new manager bounce , we need it. Bulut out. Have been since a hapless losing streak Wayne Rooney gave him a managerial lesson last December. Have not changed my mind since. We should be looking for a replacement now, like another poster said , even if we beat Derby.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:37 pm
Whilst we desperately need a win under our belts, for me the change in starting 11 and game plan is the acid test as to whether Bulit should stay or go.
Pick an attacking starting 11 and playing a faster game going forward and I'd be happy to give him some time.
Pick the same defensive formation and play the dreadfully boring football, he needs to go
Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:47 pm
As I mentioned before,
Slavisa Jokanovic, plays great football, took Watford and Fulham up.
Gives young players a platform to develop.
He's currently unemployed.
I've wanted us to get him when Warnock left.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 2:30 pm
tangledupinblue wrote:Predictable, stubborn, boring, unaccountable. Slow, lack of goals and working the keeper. Failure to fix long term problems his system creates. The thought of another couple of months of this repetitive cycle destroys my soul. It will become toxic, atmosphere will get worse, crowds home and away will dwindle. The comedy of saying after four games we are going to change things! That’s what the pre season was for. It’s to late. He is incapable of changing that formation, his obsession with two CDMs and don’t start me on the isolated striker. We can do so much better , we deserve it. I have never liked his football or the excuses that dominate his interviews. A new manager bounce , we need it. Bulut out. Have been since a hapless losing streak Wayne Rooney gave him a managerial lesson last December. Have not changed my mind since. We should be looking for a replacement now, like another poster said , even if we beat Derby.
Ditto. Bulut won't change. The players might, the formation/ tactics won't and that's the problem.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 2:52 pm
Why are we waiting...
It will go very sour, very soon. So why wait??
Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:07 pm
Rydogsccfc wrote:As I mentioned before,
Slavisa Jokanovic, plays great football, took Watford and Fulham up.
Gives young players a platform to develop.
He's currently unemployed.
I've wanted us to get him when Warnock left.
Yeah, great shout. Someone who has demonstrated results in 'doing what we want'.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:48 pm
If it's not Erol Bulut, it'll be Steve Morison. I'm not sure which is worse at the moment.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:33 pm
Great write up Kyle
It’s coming to a point where even the optimists are losing faith now surely .
It’s clear for everyone to see now that this club is in a right mess , and until new owners are installed we are fucked .
And that manager list is comical
Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:42 pm
He should have gone before the international break.
I can’t see them letting him go until the October break at the earliest unfortunately.
They will leave it as long as possible because they don’t want to spend the money on having to pay out his two year contract.
But he’s not going anywhere until the next international break at the earliest.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:59 pm
As I've said before Derby is a must win for bulut nothing else will do got to change his tactics otherwise Bye Bye Bulut!!
Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:13 pm
I reckon he will be here up to Christmas.
I was not sure about him when he won the contract. I just felt it was a bad move. I also felt who else was out there we wanted. If we avoid relegation for me it will be a great achievement.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:48 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:I reckon he will be here up to Christmas.
I was not sure about him when he won the contract. I just felt it was a bad move. I also felt who else was out there we wanted. If we avoid relegation for me it will be a great achievement.
You are more right than most others on this thread.
Anyone who things he’s going after Derby or Leeds are in for a bad surprise.
Like I said, I think he should have gone before the break but he’ll be with us until at the very least the October break.
Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:22 pm
We start again after this break - we need to avoid a defeat next game up .
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